> Out of the Park Baseball 8/2007 > OOTP 8/2007: General Discussions

pstrickert · 06-05-2007, 02:51 AM

I recently printed the entire OOTP 2007 manual. It was a real thrill reading through it. The whole manual is characterized by clarity, orderliness, and painstaking attention to detail. Thank you, Steve (and other talented volunteers), for putting it together. Now, I'm more impressed than ever with this product. I hope Markus (and SI folk) reap a great reward for their labors. They sure do deserve it!

bailey · 08-26-2007, 08:31 PM

This is a picture from the manual. The explanation for "hit and run" seems to be off topic. I'm just wondering, if it's not because I set all my sliders to never because Earl Weaver in his book says he never uses the hit and run. So, what it really means is my depth chart will never be used?

endgame · 08-26-2007, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bailey

This is a picture from the manual. The explanation for "hit and run" seems to be off topic. I'm just wondering, if it's not because I set all my sliders to never because Earl Weaver in his book says he never uses the hit and run. So, what it really means is my depth chart will never be used?

You must not have the revised version. Here's a shot of the same screen from my manual. You're right in what you've pointed out, but I'd get the latest version.

OldFatGuy · 08-27-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

I recently printed the entire OOTP 2007 manual. It was a real thrill reading through it. The whole manual is characterized by clarity, orderliness, and painstaking attention to detail. Thank you, Steve (and other talented volunteers), for putting it together. Now, I'm more impressed than ever with this product. I hope Markus (and SI folk) reap a great reward for their labors. They sure do deserve it!

Yeah, I just printed it out too. And now after the reading the two posts above I'm worried. I ordered the CD to be mailed and was assured the CD would include the latest version of game and the manual. Well, it didn't include the latest version of the game, and now I'm wondering if it included the latest version of the manual, and here I've already printed it. Can someone tell me how I can tell if my manual is the correct version????
Below is a screenshot of the first page.

bailey · 08-27-2007, 12:39 AM

I think 4-Apr is the latest version. It turns out, that I had that version on my desktop, but for some reason the in-game help is referring to the older version.

satchel · 11-13-2007, 10:53 PM

The manual should standardize its terms when it refers to an overall "game" ("game" is the in-OotP term: a world, or universe, potentially containing multiple leagues) and when it refers to an individual league. Section 26, on Customization, uses the terms inconsistently, which is confusing.

Carlton_Willey · 11-14-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bailey

I think 4-Apr is the latest version. It turns out, that I had that version on my desktop, but for some reason the in-game help is referring to the older version.

You need to put the latest manual version in the same directory as the OOTP game file or it won't be found.

1998 Yankees · 12-09-2007, 08:03 PM

Any plans to actually provide a slightly updated OOTP 8 manual, like the program menu implies? I know you are supposed to use the OOTP 2007 manual and just change the shortcut or file name to match, but I just had a thought. That piece you did on the Cato converter certainly would belong in an updated manual. Just asking . . .

battists · 12-10-2007, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Any plans to actually provide a slightly updated OOTP 8 manual, like the program menu implies? I know you are supposed to use the OOTP 2007 manual and just change the shortcut or file name to match, but I just had a thought. That piece you did on the Cato converter certainly would belong in an updated manual. Just asking . . .

Er . . . the OOTP 8 manual is currently experiencing "technical difficulties" (ahem BILL GATES ahem).

Should be up in the next few days!

Steve

Kemp · 12-19-2007, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by battists

Er . . . the OOTP 8 manual is currently experiencing "technical difficulties" (ahem BILL GATES ahem).

Should be up in the next few days!

Steve

I downloaded the OOTP 8 manual that was linked to from the blank manual that was included with the game. It's great, but none of the hyperlinks seem to work. Not sure if that is one of the "technical difficulties" but I thought I'd mention it!

1998 Yankees · 12-19-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kemp

I downloaded the OOTP 8 manual that was linked to from the blank manual that was included with the game. It's great, but none of the hyperlinks seem to work. Not sure if that is one of the "technical difficulties" but I thought I'd mention it!

Yes, it's a "flat" version (don't ask me why that term comes to mind); no links whatsoever.

IIRC, he had problems last year or earlier this year with the 2007 manual when links did not get reproduced properly in PDF; he had to revert to an earlier version of Adobe Acrobat or whatever he was using.

I checked when I first got OOTP 8 and the link was to the 2007 manual; your post is the first indication that an updated manual is available. Steve usually announces such things here - maybe he is still working on it.

Bonedwarf · 12-20-2007, 07:40 AM

Since we're lacking a manual for OOTP8 right now, where would I find the create a player feature in the game?

1998 Yankees · 12-20-2007, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonedwarf

Since we're lacking a manual for OOTP8 right now, where would I find the create a player feature in the game?

Bottom of the Free Agents screen. Commissioners only.

The Wolf · 12-20-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonedwarf

Since we're lacking a manual for OOTP8 right now, where would I find the create a player feature in the game?

I PM'ed you the answer earlier this morning!

Bonedwarf · 12-20-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

I PM'ed you the answer earlier this morning!

Thanks, I saw that

It's just I was sitting here bored last night right before I went to bed, so figured I'd ask in the manual thread as well, just in case you weren't around

battists · 12-20-2007, 08:52 PM

Argh, the OOTP 8 manual is done, I just forgot to post it.

See link in original post, please!

Well, here it is too, to save you the clicks:

Download the OOTP 8 manual here

battists · 12-20-2007, 08:58 PM

OK, so here's the story about the links:

I have Acrobat Standard 7.0. Ever since I got it, I have been unable to make it convert a Word document and keep the hyperlinks intact. It worked fine in Acrobat 6.0, and no amount of talking to Acrobat has ever resolved the issue.

If someone has Acrobat Standard 6.0, I would be happy to give you the Word version of the manual, and have you convert it, and even on the default settings, it's been my experience that the Table of Contents and all of the hyperlinks work fine.

So, let me know if you're interested.

Thanks!

Steve

endgame · 12-20-2007, 09:59 PM

Remind me. Does this have to put in a particular folder in order to access it in-game?

SMFXR01 · 12-21-2007, 10:57 AM

Yes.
By default it will be in something like:-

C:\Documents and Settings\**user**\My Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 8

and over-write the manual that should already be there.

battists · 12-22-2007, 02:32 PM

OK, we have posted a new version of the manual. No content changes, but the hyperlinks should work in this one.

Courtesy of 1998 Yankees, thanks!

Steve

08-26-2007, 08:31 PM	#62 (permalink)
bailey Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 237 Thanked 5x in 2 posts	This is a picture from the manual. The explanation for "hit and run" seems to be off topic. I'm just wondering, if it's not because I set all my sliders to never because Earl Weaver in his book says he never uses the hit and run. So, what it really means is my depth chart will never be used? __________________ Dog Days: St. Bernard 12 seasons, Post Season 4 times, Champ: 1979 The Baseball Chronicle: NY Giants 15th season, NL WS Champ: 1897, 1898, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1905, Last edited by bailey; 08-26-2007 at 08:38 PM. Reason: change image

08-27-2007, 12:39 AM	#65 (permalink)
bailey Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 237 Thanked 5x in 2 posts	I think 4-Apr is the latest version. It turns out, that I had that version on my desktop, but for some reason the in-game help is referring to the older version. __________________ Dog Days: St. Bernard 12 seasons, Post Season 4 times, Champ: 1979 The Baseball Chronicle: NY Giants 15th season, NL WS Champ: 1897, 1898, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1905,

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satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith AR Posts: 2,679 Thanked 44x in 24 posts	suggestion The manual should standardize its terms when it refers to an overall "game" ("game" is the in-OotP term: a world, or universe, potentially containing multiple leagues) and when it refers to an individual league. Section 26, on Customization, uses the terms inconsistently, which is confusing. __________________ JL Commish NPBL Rhode Island Reds ’33 ’34 TCBA San Francisco Railbornes ’74 ’76 ’77 ’78 FL New Orleans Black Sox ’56 ’57 ’58 ’59 IOLD

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1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium Posts: 6,401	Any plans to actually provide a slightly updated OOTP 8 manual, like the program menu implies? I know you are supposed to use the OOTP 2007 manual and just change the shortcut or file name to match, but I just had a thought. That piece you did on the Cato converter certainly would belong in an updated manual. Just asking . . .<!-- / message --><!-- sig --> __________________ The 1998 Yankees are considered to be among the The Best Major League Baseball Teams Ever From 1902-2005 by Baseball Almanac. They were 68-20 at home that year (including playoffs and World Series) in the original Yankee Stadium (1923-2008), "Where Players Became Legends."

12-20-2007, 08:52 PM	#76 (permalink)
battists OOTP Developments Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 7 Thanked 87x in 37 posts	Argh, the OOTP 8 manual is done, I just forgot to post it. See link in original post, please! Well, here it is too, to save you the clicks: Download the OOTP 8 manual here Last edited by battists; 12-20-2007 at 08:53 PM.

06-05-2007, 02:51 AM	#61 (permalink)
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,784 Thanked 8x in 8 posts	I recently printed the entire OOTP 2007 manual. It was a real thrill reading through it. The whole manual is characterized by clarity, orderliness, and painstaking attention to detail. Thank you, Steve (and other talented volunteers), for putting it together. Now, I'm more impressed than ever with this product. I hope Markus (and SI folk) reap a great reward for their labors. They sure do deserve it!

12-20-2007, 07:40 AM	#72 (permalink)
Bonedwarf All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,334	Since we're lacking a manual for OOTP8 right now, where would I find the create a player feature in the game?

12-20-2007, 08:58 PM	#77 (permalink)
battists OOTP Developments Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 7 Thanked 87x in 37 posts	OK, so here's the story about the links: I have Acrobat Standard 7.0. Ever since I got it, I have been unable to make it convert a Word document and keep the hyperlinks intact. It worked fine in Acrobat 6.0, and no amount of talking to Acrobat has ever resolved the issue. If someone has Acrobat Standard 6.0, I would be happy to give you the Word version of the manual, and have you convert it, and even on the default settings, it's been my experience that the Table of Contents and all of the hyperlinks work fine. So, let me know if you're interested. Thanks! Steve

12-20-2007, 09:59 PM	#78 (permalink)
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 8,164 Thanked 76x in 36 posts	Remind me. Does this have to put in a particular folder in order to access it in-game? __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett We live in the shadowlands. The sun is always shining somewhere else. _____________________________________________

12-21-2007, 10:57 AM	#79 (permalink)
SMFXR01 Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 356 Thanked 8x in 8 posts	Yes. By default it will be in something like:- C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 8 and over-write the manual that should already be there.

12-22-2007, 02:32 PM	#80 (permalink)
battists OOTP Developments Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 7 Thanked 87x in 37 posts	OK, we have posted a new version of the manual. No content changes, but the hyperlinks should work in this one. Courtesy of 1998 Yankees, thanks! Steve

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