Extremely Inappropriate Nickname? - Page 3

Sagitta · 05-19-2007, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Doughnuts?

'The Big Unit' should be removed. It makes me feel inadequate.

In one of my mixed fictional/real leagues I have a starting pitcher beginning to make a splash named Randy Johnson. He's a righty and is 5-5 or something like that. I keep wanting to go in and edit in a nickname for him as 'The Little Unit'.

Syd Thrift · 05-19-2007, 03:17 AM

I have a guy in my dynasty nicknamed The Gay Slapper. He is very good at slapping singles and is very happy to be playing baseball. I do think that there may be another connotation to this or something and for that reason I don't think it should be included in the nickname file. Luckily it is not.

AD31 · 05-19-2007, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sagitta

In one of my mixed fictional/real leagues I have a starting pitcher beginning to make a splash named Randy Johnson. He's a righty and is 5-5 or something like that. I keep wanting to go in and edit in a nickname for him as 'The Little Unit'.

That was Ryan Anderson, "The Little Unit". The M's drafted him first round (I think), hoping he would be the next "Randy". I remeber him playing in a 3-ball, 2 strike league in high school. Had some injuries....

AD31 · 05-19-2007, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I have a guy in my dynasty nicknamed The Gay Slapper.

I think this sounds like a hate crime.

Doughnuts? · 05-19-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AD31

I think this sounds like a hate crime.

Or S&M funtime.

chriskelly · 05-19-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chappy

It doesn't necessarily offend me, because like I said, rappers (Grand Wizard Theodore is often credited with inventing scratching; who could forget the Grand Wizard MC Ricky D?) and others have used the nickname as well. But if you are mass-marketing a product, it's probably better not to include it.

To answer your question......who could forget the Grand Wizard MC Ricky D? I'd say besides his friends and family, and a few fans...pretty much everyone could.

Babrook · 05-19-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chriskelly

To answer your question......who could forget the Grand Wizard MC Ricky D? I'd say besides his friends and family, and a few fans...pretty much everyone could.

I remember him.

He's not that obscure.

Luis_Rivera · 05-19-2007, 04:16 PM

She almost got cut short - y'know... scissors
She tried to disrespect WHO?? - The Grand Wizard

Luis_Rivera · 05-19-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chriskelly

To answer your question......who could forget the Grand Wizard MC Ricky D? I'd say besides his friends and family, and a few fans...pretty much everyone could.

One of the best rap albums of all time, buddy... The Great Adventures of Slick Rick.

Jordan · 05-19-2007, 04:25 PM

Anyone seen that movie Much Ado About Nothing?

Doughnuts? · 05-19-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan

Anyone seen that movie Much Ado About Nothing?

mmm, no, but i did see the play by the great Grand Wizard MC Willy S.

Mel Ott · 05-19-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

I completely fail to see how anyone would be offended by a KKK reference here.

Because they killed people. For being black.

Just because you, personally, may not be offended by it doesn't mean that someone else couldn't reasonably be offended by it. Why should SI invite even a handful of possible customers' misunderstanding when they can prevent that misunderstanding in a way that's simple and won't upset anyone?

Jordan · 05-19-2007, 07:14 PM

If someone is offended by a nickname that can be manually taken out, then maybe this game isn't for them. I'm not trying to thin out the market of those interested in the game, but if someone's offended by that, then maybe their time would be better suited working with organizations such as the ACLU, or the Rainbow Coalition, instead of speaking to SI on what they should do in hopes of avoiding a 'controversy', or playing this game.

No sarcasm intended

Dagrims · 05-19-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan

If someone is offended by a nickname that can be manually taken out, then maybe this game isn't for them.

Do you feel this way for any nickname, or this one specifically? It sounds as though you're saying no matter what the nickname would be, that's okay because a user can remove it.

Jordan · 05-19-2007, 08:37 PM

This nickname. But any nickname that someone doesn't like, they can get rid of. If someone manually gets rid of that nickname, and still cant get over it, then maybe this game isn't for them

Dagrims · 05-19-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan

This nickname. But any nickname that someone doesn't like, they can get rid of. If someone manually gets rid of that nickname, and still cant get over it, then maybe this game isn't for them

What if the nickname contained a well-known racial slur? Would the problem lie with the user if he decided that deleting it wasn't enough? I'm trying to determine whether you think there is a line that shouldn't be crossed.

tcblcommish · 05-19-2007, 10:56 PM

I don;t think that this is overly offensive, or meant that way. To me, to be honest, I saw that nick in my game before and never thought of the nick that way. However, I do see the problem with this and should be taken out to suit the people that do have a problem.

I have talked to friends of mine about it, some white some black and none think that this is a big deal.

Go Tribe · 05-19-2007, 11:01 PM

so if they had a nick name called "jew boy" or "nazi youth" or "nigger", you guys who are saying it's no big deal would be ok with that too?

Jordan · 05-19-2007, 11:34 PM

Words like Go Tribe mentioned would be unacceptable because they are clear epithets. In this case, because this nickname happens to have a coincidental connection to the KKK, I don't think it warrants removal.

Syd Thrift · 05-20-2007, 12:45 AM

Coincidental? I'm pretty sure the only reason *anybody* nowadays uses the word "grand" before the word "wizard" is because of the KKK connotation. Let's be realistic here. How many people do you see where you say "hey, that guy is a wizard! He owns robes with stars all over them and has a pointy hat and can cast magical spells and most likely has a long, flowing beard!" Now, of that small subset of people, about how many of them can you make the case that they are truly "grand"?

1 a : having more importance than others : FOREMOST b : having higher rank than others bearing the same general designation
2 a : INCLUSIVE, COMPREHENSIVE b : DEFINITIVE, INCONTROVERTIBLE
3 : CHIEF, PRINCIPAL
4 : large and striking in size, scope, extent, or conception
5 a : LAVISH, SUMPTUOUS b : marked by a regal form and dignity c : fine or imposing in appearance or impression d : LOFTY, SUBLIME
6 a : pretending to social superiority : SUPERCILIOUS b : intended to impress
7 : very good : WONDERFUL

Now, of THAT group, how many play baseball? David Wells, MAYBE.

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05-19-2007, 03:17 AM	#42 (permalink)
Syd Thrift Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,113	I have a guy in my dynasty nicknamed The Gay Slapper. He is very good at slapping singles and is very happy to be playing baseball. I do think that there may be another connotation to this or something and for that reason I don't think it should be included in the nickname file. Luckily it is not.

05-19-2007, 04:16 PM	#48 (permalink)
Luis_Rivera Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,173	She almost got cut short - y'know... scissors She tried to disrespect WHO?? - The Grand Wizard

05-19-2007, 04:25 PM	#50 (permalink)
Jordan All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 1,503	Anyone seen that movie Much Ado About Nothing?

05-19-2007, 07:14 PM	#53 (permalink)
Jordan All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 1,503	If someone is offended by a nickname that can be manually taken out, then maybe this game isn't for them. I'm not trying to thin out the market of those interested in the game, but if someone's offended by that, then maybe their time would be better suited working with organizations such as the ACLU, or the Rainbow Coalition, instead of speaking to SI on what they should do in hopes of avoiding a 'controversy', or playing this game. No sarcasm intended

05-19-2007, 08:37 PM	#55 (permalink)
Jordan All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 1,503	This nickname. But any nickname that someone doesn't like, they can get rid of. If someone manually gets rid of that nickname, and still cant get over it, then maybe this game isn't for them

05-19-2007, 10:56 PM	#57 (permalink)
tcblcommish All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,683	I don;t think that this is overly offensive, or meant that way. To me, to be honest, I saw that nick in my game before and never thought of the nick that way. However, I do see the problem with this and should be taken out to suit the people that do have a problem. I have talked to friends of mine about it, some white some black and none think that this is a big deal.

05-19-2007, 11:01 PM	#58 (permalink)
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,349	so if they had a nick name called "jew boy" or "nazi youth" or "nigger", you guys who are saying it's no big deal would be ok with that too?

05-19-2007, 11:34 PM	#59 (permalink)
Jordan All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 1,503	Words like Go Tribe mentioned would be unacceptable because they are clear epithets. In this case, because this nickname happens to have a coincidental connection to the KKK, I don't think it warrants removal.

05-20-2007, 12:45 AM	#60 (permalink)
Syd Thrift Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,113	Coincidental? I'm pretty sure the only reason anybody nowadays uses the word "grand" before the word "wizard" is because of the KKK connotation. Let's be realistic here. How many people do you see where you say "hey, that guy is a wizard! He owns robes with stars all over them and has a pointy hat and can cast magical spells and most likely has a long, flowing beard!" Now, of that small subset of people, about how many of them can you make the case that they are truly "grand"? 1 a : having more importance than others : FOREMOST b : having higher rank than others bearing the same general designation 2 a : INCLUSIVE, COMPREHENSIVE b : DEFINITIVE, INCONTROVERTIBLE 3 : CHIEF, PRINCIPAL 4 : large and striking in size, scope, extent, or conception 5 a : LAVISH, SUMPTUOUS b : marked by a regal form and dignity c : fine or imposing in appearance or impression d : LOFTY, SUBLIME 6 a : pretending to social superiority : SUPERCILIOUS b : intended to impress 7 : very good : WONDERFUL Now, of THAT group, how many play baseball? David Wells, MAYBE.