Another profoundly dumb idea

Burgandy · 06-29-2007, 06:12 PM

Okay, as I fart away my employers' time and money thinking of ways to utilize my OOTP software, and playing around with excel and importing the data I've sent to my work e-mail... I've come up with another thought.

You can customize almost everything, I think that's probably the #1 selling point for a lot of us. From the league structure to rules, sort lists, stat lists, etc, to even awards.

This actually gives me two suggestions for upcoming editions..

1) The custom awards. I'd like it to go a step further and actually have a page that you can set the guidelines for the AI to pick the winners. For instance, I have an award I give out for 30/30 or 40/40 candidates. I sort each league by homers and steals and pick out the guys who best exhibited the ability to do both. There would certainly be some simple ways to come up with an automatic calculation for this, and I'd love to input that in somwhere so I don't have to manually pick the award each year.

and more importantly

2) Custom Ratings (not to be confused with Custom Views where you pick which ratings you want displayed) Any level of simplicity or complexity would still make this a very useful function for me. What this means is you have have a rating that is determined by a combination of other ratings that you set yourself.

I love using the filters, but the only problem is, those filters you set in Rd 1 of the draft aren't going to get returns later in the draft, and I have to soften them up, as early as round 4 or 5. A few rounds later, same problem. And so on, and so on. Or on the other hand, my minimum requirements may still return so many players that I can't make up my mind. I can spend so much time tweaking and modifying my filters that I can't even finish a 20-rd draft in one sitting. Especially, if I'm trying to get a read on what all of my scouts think and finding out who the "popular" pick is among them. So one alternative is to have a custom rating.

Creating the custom rating could look just like creating a custom filter or view. You pick each rating that factors in from the drop-down list, and free-text a numeric value that represents the weight of that rating.

The purpose is you can have all of the available players sorted by this customizable list, and more quickly get a read on other scouts' opinions, and not have to spend more time countlessly readjusting and modifying your filters. And having one custom rating would be useful whether you're doing an inaugural draft, when looking at your own team, during the amatuer draft, expansion, looking at free agents, etc.

Well, this is getting too wordy. Thanks for reading this far!

-Jeff

Raidergoo · 06-29-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Burgandy

Okay, as I fart away my employers' time and money thinking of ways to utilize my OOTP software, and playing around with excel and importing the data I've sent to my work e-mail... I've come up with another thought.

-Jeff

Jeff,

Keep this in mind, as there will be a very big splash on suggestions very soon.

I especially like idea #1.

McBruce · 06-30-2007, 04:46 AM

Bill James had a simple way to chart 30/30 and 40/40 progress back in the 1980s when few could do both. I think it was called the Power-Speed Number, and was calculated simply:

PSN = ( HR * SB * 2 ) / ( HR + SB )

This formula yields 30 for 30 HR, 30 SB, and 40 for 40 HR, 40 SB.

If you do one but not the other you take a huge hit:

50 and 10 makes a PSN of 14.29
60 and 20 makes a PSN of 30

If two or more players get close to the double we can use PSN to decide who is closest:

42 and 38 makes a PSN of 39.9
41 and 39 makes a PSN of 39.98
40 and 38 makes a PSN of 38.97
45 and 36 makes a PSN of 40 (!)
46 and 35 makes a PSN of 39.75

I think in later Abstracts James extended this idea to groups of more than two statistics, or two stats where the standards were in different ranges, but I forget the details.

Syd Thrift · 06-30-2007, 06:01 AM

I'd love to see customized stats, and also some ability to customize the order that the stats are in. Maybe I want batting average to be at the far left, right next to player names, because that's the first thing I look at and I want to over-acquaint myself with the metric. Right now I can remove stats I don't want to see but I can't change their order.

It'd also be cool to be able to change around the HTML formatting on the player and team pages. That might be a little drawn-out though, especially given that Andreas is probably hard at work turning Title Bout Championship Boxing into OOTPdev's next killer app.

06-29-2007, 06:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Burgandy Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 85	Another profoundly dumb idea Okay, as I fart away my employers' time and money thinking of ways to utilize my OOTP software, and playing around with excel and importing the data I've sent to my work e-mail... I've come up with another thought. You can customize almost everything, I think that's probably the #1 selling point for a lot of us. From the league structure to rules, sort lists, stat lists, etc, to even awards. This actually gives me two suggestions for upcoming editions.. 1) The custom awards. I'd like it to go a step further and actually have a page that you can set the guidelines for the AI to pick the winners. For instance, I have an award I give out for 30/30 or 40/40 candidates. I sort each league by homers and steals and pick out the guys who best exhibited the ability to do both. There would certainly be some simple ways to come up with an automatic calculation for this, and I'd love to input that in somwhere so I don't have to manually pick the award each year. and more importantly 2) Custom Ratings (not to be confused with Custom Views where you pick which ratings you want displayed) Any level of simplicity or complexity would still make this a very useful function for me. What this means is you have have a rating that is determined by a combination of other ratings that you set yourself. I love using the filters, but the only problem is, those filters you set in Rd 1 of the draft aren't going to get returns later in the draft, and I have to soften them up, as early as round 4 or 5. A few rounds later, same problem. And so on, and so on. Or on the other hand, my minimum requirements may still return so many players that I can't make up my mind. I can spend so much time tweaking and modifying my filters that I can't even finish a 20-rd draft in one sitting. Especially, if I'm trying to get a read on what all of my scouts think and finding out who the "popular" pick is among them. So one alternative is to have a custom rating. Creating the custom rating could look just like creating a custom filter or view. You pick each rating that factors in from the drop-down list, and free-text a numeric value that represents the weight of that rating. The purpose is you can have all of the available players sorted by this customizable list, and more quickly get a read on other scouts' opinions, and not have to spend more time countlessly readjusting and modifying your filters. And having one custom rating would be useful whether you're doing an inaugural draft, when looking at your own team, during the amatuer draft, expansion, looking at free agents, etc. Well, this is getting too wordy. Thanks for reading this far! -Jeff Last edited by Burgandy : 06-29-2007 at 06:15 PM.

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06-30-2007, 04:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
McBruce Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burnaby BC Canada Posts: 85	Bill James had a simple way to chart 30/30 and 40/40 progress back in the 1980s when few could do both. I think it was called the Power-Speed Number, and was calculated simply: PSN = ( HR * SB * 2 ) / ( HR + SB ) This formula yields 30 for 30 HR, 30 SB, and 40 for 40 HR, 40 SB. If you do one but not the other you take a huge hit: 50 and 10 makes a PSN of 14.29 60 and 20 makes a PSN of 30 If two or more players get close to the double we can use PSN to decide who is closest: 42 and 38 makes a PSN of 39.9 41 and 39 makes a PSN of 39.98 40 and 38 makes a PSN of 38.97 45 and 36 makes a PSN of 40 (!) 46 and 35 makes a PSN of 39.75 I think in later Abstracts James extended this idea to groups of more than two statistics, or two stats where the standards were in different ranges, but I forget the details.

06-30-2007, 06:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
Syd Thrift Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,113	I'd love to see customized stats, and also some ability to customize the order that the stats are in. Maybe I want batting average to be at the far left, right next to player names, because that's the first thing I look at and I want to over-acquaint myself with the metric. Right now I can remove stats I don't want to see but I can't change their order. It'd also be cool to be able to change around the HTML formatting on the player and team pages. That might be a little drawn-out though, especially given that Andreas is probably hard at work turning Title Bout Championship Boxing into OOTPdev's next killer app.