Updated News Stories

battists · 11-19-2007, 07:37 AM

Community member Eugene Church has gone through and made a number of improvements to the in-game news stories.

You can download an updated copy of the file here.

Installation Instructions
Follow these instructions with OOTP shut down in order to use the new news file:

1. Look for the file english.xml, in the \My Documents\Sports Interactive\OOTP Baseball 2007\data\text folder.

2. Rename this file english.old.

3. Download the new file from above, and unzip it into this same directory.

4. Start up OOTP.

Thanks very much!

1998 Yankees · 11-19-2007, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by battists

Community member Eugene Church has gone through and made a number of improvements to the in-game news stories.

You can download an updated copy of the file here.

Installation Instructions
Follow these instructions with OOTP shut down in order to use the new news file:

1. Look for the file english.xml, in the \My Documents\Sports Interactive\OOTP Baseball 2007\data\text folder.

2. Rename this file english.old.

3. Download the new file from above, and unzip it into this same directory.

4. Start up OOTP.

Thanks very much!

Yes, thanks, Eugene.

jarmenia · 11-19-2007, 09:03 AM

Thanks EC, I've been waiting for this

Mr.Opinion · 11-19-2007, 09:25 AM

1998 Yankees · 11-19-2007, 09:32 AM

I loaded new and old files side by side in NoteTab Pro, which counts lines of text. These were the counts noted with word wrapping on and off:

Code:

             Wrap On    Wrap Off
New File      39,856     20,374
Old File      39,333     20,230
                ----       ----
Difference       523        144

With word wrapping on (admittedly subjective; depends on full screen resolution), the line count shows the increased amount of verbiage per actual line of text in the file (word wrapping off).

There's definitely an emphasis on quality over quantity here!

Tyke · 11-19-2007, 10:36 AM

Thanks, Eugene, this work is much appreciated

Eugene Church · 11-19-2007, 05:58 PM

battists, thank for updating the Text Database.

I think the community will notice the improvement.

Several categories that were sparse in number of options were expanded. For instance, League Champions only had 5 stories in it. It now has 40 stories.

Batting Title was increased from 5 news stories to 14.

Hall of Fame Induction (Batter) increased from 6 to 10...not much but every little bit help...this category is hard to create if you do it well.

Hall of Fame Induction (Reliever) was increased from 1 story to 10.

Hall of Fame Induction (Starter) was increased from 1 story to 21.

Pitching Triple Crown was increased from 1 to 7.

The Text Database was also proofed and corrections made.

Career stats descriptions were refined and made less wordy.

Headlines (Subjects) were condensed and streamlined to try and make them look like a newspaper headline.

I know it won't please everybody, but I hope most will approve of the changes that were made.

Please post threads on the Discussions Forum and let me know how you think the News Stories can be improved for OOTP9.

Address the thread to me or make it obvious in the thread title you are commenting on the News content in V2007.

Your comments and constructive criticisms would be appreciate.

Anisoptera · 11-19-2007, 06:26 PM

Thanks very much Eugene! I don't even want to imagine how much work that must have been to go through all of that.

I wonder:

-are all the improvements yours or were there some from others too?
-why are hof hitter stories more difficult than pitching ones?
-are there any batting triple crown stories?

Kelric · 11-19-2007, 07:48 PM

Looking forward to trying it. Thanks for putting the time and effort in.

DreamTeams · 11-19-2007, 08:55 PM

Thanks Eugene, looking forward to giving this a go.

akw4572 · 11-20-2007, 10:59 AM

Thanks for the hard work Eugene.

Eugene Church · 11-20-2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anisoptera

Thanks very much Eugene! I don't even want to imagine how much work that must have been to go through all of that.

I wonder:

-are all the improvements yours or were there some from others too?
-why are hof hitter stories more difficult than pitching ones?
-are there any batting triple crown stories?

The HOF Induction stories (Batter, Starter, Reliever) are hard to write, if you want them to be authentic and sound like the real inductions. It just take time to find the real induction speeches and edit them down.
MLB only has the speeches from last 5-6 years.

Most of the HOF induction stories in OOTPB are based on real induction speeches.

Writing doesn't come easy to me. I have to write it, then rewrite it multiple times to get the finished product.

I might spend an hour on each one.

The latest Text Updates were my work. I really never stop working on the Text Database. I have been at it for two years now and will continue on the Beta Team for a third time.

I am just starting my own 2007 baseball league. All I have done since March is run tests league to proof the news stories and correct any errors in them. And to expand the categories that need more stories in them.

Basically 2-3 people have done 75% of the Text Database news stories over the past two years. Another 5-10 helped out sporadically.

It is hard, tedious and time-consuming work.

But very worthwhile, when you see the finished product.

It is a joy for me to look at the news stories in V2007 now. It is not perfect, but it is a thousand times better than OOTP6.

Yes, there are 14 triple crown stories for batters, too. We are well-covered in the Triple Crown categories, since they only come around every 20-30 years.

There are 7 for Pitcher Triple Crown.

There are 12 stories for a player that hits .400 or better.

Whenever I can find it, I take the players' actual quotes, when they win an award or set a milestone.

Bonedwarf · 11-20-2007, 04:35 PM

Nice one. Will grab this for when I buy the re-released game... Soon I hope.

nanaimo · 11-20-2007, 10:31 PM

Thank-you fine sir for doing this!

bp_ · 11-22-2007, 09:54 AM

great work EC, thanks!

1998 Yankees · 11-22-2007, 12:16 PM

As I am playing, I am seeing more and more to be thankful for. Happy Thanksgiving!

DWK · 11-22-2007, 12:34 PM

Nice work EC

ashantewarrier · 11-22-2007, 08:37 PM

Thanks EC!!!

YankeePride · 12-13-2007, 08:07 PM

Are these changes already in the OOTP8 setup file?

1998 Yankees · 12-13-2007, 08:39 PM

There's hope: The new english.xml file contains 20,415 unwrapped lines (see my post above). I would like to know this officially as well.

11-19-2007, 07:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
battists Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 14,219	Updated News Stories Community member Eugene Church has gone through and made a number of improvements to the in-game news stories. You can download an updated copy of the file here. Installation Instructions Follow these instructions with OOTP shut down in order to use the new news file: 1. Look for the file english.xml, in the \My Documents\Sports Interactive\OOTP Baseball 2007\data\text folder. 2. Rename this file english.old. 3. Download the new file from above, and unzip it into this same directory. 4. Start up OOTP. Thanks very much!

11-19-2007, 09:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
jarmenia Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gainesville, FL USA Posts: 3,357	Thanks EC, I've been waiting for this __________________ If not perfection, when is good enough, good enough?

11-19-2007, 09:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
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11-19-2007, 09:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium Posts: 5,980	I loaded new and old files side by side in NoteTab Pro, which counts lines of text. These were the counts noted with word wrapping on and off: Code: Wrap On Wrap Off New File 39,856 20,374 Old File 39,333 20,230 ---- ---- Difference 523 144 With word wrapping on (admittedly subjective; depends on full screen resolution), the line count shows the increased amount of verbiage per actual line of text in the file (word wrapping off). There's definitely an emphasis on quality over quantity here! __________________ The 1998 Yankees are considered to be among the The Best Major League Baseball Teams Ever From 1902-2005 by Baseball Almanac. They were 68-20 at home that year (including playoffs and World Series) in the original Yankee Stadium (1923-2008), "Where Players Became Legends." Last edited by 1998 Yankees : 11-19-2007 at 09:45 AM.

11-19-2007, 07:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,055	Looking forward to trying it. Thanks for putting the time and effort in. __________________ Death to the Draft & Release issue! Co-Commish of the Overlords Baseball League (1930-39). Owner of the Boston Red Sox, 939-601, .609% (1930-39). 1930-34, '36-39, American League Eastern Division Champions (9/10). 1936, 1937, 1939 American League Champions (3/9). 1936, 1937 World Series victors (2/3). 125-96, .565% vs. the New York Yankees.

11-19-2007, 10:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tyke Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Leeds, U.K. Posts: 357	Thanks, Eugene, this work is much appreciated

11-19-2007, 05:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 13,124	battists, thank for updating the Text Database. I think the community will notice the improvement. Several categories that were sparse in number of options were expanded. For instance, League Champions only had 5 stories in it. It now has 40 stories. Batting Title was increased from 5 news stories to 14. Hall of Fame Induction (Batter) increased from 6 to 10...not much but every little bit help...this category is hard to create if you do it well. Hall of Fame Induction (Reliever) was increased from 1 story to 10. Hall of Fame Induction (Starter) was increased from 1 story to 21. Pitching Triple Crown was increased from 1 to 7. The Text Database was also proofed and corrections made. Career stats descriptions were refined and made less wordy. Headlines (Subjects) were condensed and streamlined to try and make them look like a newspaper headline. I know it won't please everybody, but I hope most will approve of the changes that were made. Please post threads on the Discussions Forum and let me know how you think the News Stories can be improved for OOTP9. Address the thread to me or make it obvious in the thread title you are commenting on the News content in V2007. Your comments and constructive criticisms would be appreciate.

11-19-2007, 06:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Anisoptera Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 169	Thanks very much Eugene! I don't even want to imagine how much work that must have been to go through all of that. I wonder: -are all the improvements yours or were there some from others too? -why are hof hitter stories more difficult than pitching ones? -are there any batting triple crown stories?

11-19-2007, 08:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
DreamTeams All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,268	Thanks Eugene, looking forward to giving this a go. __________________ - DreamTeams Read about my solo Metro Leagues Check out my fictional stadium mods

11-20-2007, 10:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
akw4572 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,071	Thanks for the hard work Eugene.

11-20-2007, 04:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bonedwarf All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,337	Nice one. Will grab this for when I buy the re-released game... Soon I hope.

11-20-2007, 10:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
nanaimo Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 72	Thank-you fine sir for doing this!

11-22-2007, 09:54 AM	#15 (permalink)
bp_ Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 2,398	great work EC, thanks! __________________ "al Qaeda wouldn't last a day in parts of Philadelphia" - Mayor Michael Nutter

11-22-2007, 12:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium Posts: 5,980	As I am playing, I am seeing more and more to be thankful for. Happy Thanksgiving! __________________ The 1998 Yankees are considered to be among the The Best Major League Baseball Teams Ever From 1902-2005 by Baseball Almanac. They were 68-20 at home that year (including playoffs and World Series) in the original Yankee Stadium (1923-2008), "Where Players Became Legends."

11-22-2007, 12:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
DWK Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bluffton, South Carolina Posts: 235	Nice work EC __________________ Between The Lines Baseball League - Commissioner/Texas Rangers GM Inside The Box Baseball League - Commissioner/Seattle Mariners GM Beyond The Ivy - GM New York Yankees Stars and Stripes Baseball League - GM St. Louis Cardinals

11-22-2007, 08:37 PM	#18 (permalink)
ashantewarrier All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, NJ via Brooklyn, NY Posts: 876	Thanks EC!!! __________________ "Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." -Barack Obama "I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being." -Jackie Robinson, #42 Brooklyn Dodgers

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12-13-2007, 08:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
YankeePride Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 4,598	Are these changes already in the OOTP8 setup file? __________________ Start spreading the news... Beta Baseball GM, Westness Gladiators 2023- 4-Time Beta Baseball Alpha Champions 2017, 2020-2022

12-13-2007, 08:39 PM	#20 (permalink)
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium Posts: 5,980	There's hope: The new english.xml file contains 20,415 unwrapped lines (see my post above). I would like to know this officially as well. __________________ The 1998 Yankees are considered to be among the The Best Major League Baseball Teams Ever From 1902-2005 by Baseball Almanac. They were 68-20 at home that year (including playoffs and World Series) in the original Yankee Stadium (1923-2008), "Where Players Became Legends."