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Old 01-26-2008, 06:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Should he be tired?

I'm not expert, but I think that's a bit strange?

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Old 01-26-2008, 06:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm guessing the ratings are 1-100? 14 endurance is pretty low even for a closer...
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Old 01-26-2008, 07:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yes 1-100 scale.

True very low endurance, but I thought recovery depends only (?) on the team doctors rating?

My other lefty is 27 years old, has 24 endurance, threw 1 pitch yesterday and 10 pitches two days ago = 41 % tired.
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Old 01-26-2008, 07:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Has to be an appearance cost so you don't end up with guys pitching a few pitches in 100 games.
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Old 01-26-2008, 07:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Has to be an appearance cost so you don't end up with guys pitching a few pitches in 100 games.
So you think it's because Fujita isn't used often enough?
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Old 01-26-2008, 08:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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So you think it's because Fujita isn't used often enough?
No, there's an endurance hit just for coming into the game to simulate warming up ect.
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I'd say it's the back to back games aspect. At an endurance rating of 14, there's simply no way he's going to be able to pitch three consecutive days. The better test would be to see what his % is after pitching twice in three days with a day off in between. I agree with jarmenia, the number of pitches really has nothing to do with it. It's simply an appearances issue.
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'd say it's the back to back games aspect. At an endurance rating of 14, there's simply no way he's going to be able to pitch three consecutive days. The better test would be to see what his % is after pitching twice in three days with a day off in between. I agree with jarmenia, the number of pitches really has nothing to do with it. It's simply an appearances issue.
Don't get me wrong though, the number of pitches does matter there just a minimum hit for just being in the game.
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Black Forst = Black Forest?

And Baden hasn't been a Grand Duchy since 1918.
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Old 01-26-2008, 11:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
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So you think it's because Fujita isn't used often enough?
I know that the fatigue formula counts both appearances and pitches. You just don't see pitchers in real life throwing to even one batter 3 or 4 straight days.

The formula would probably treat throwing 30 pitches today as around the same fatigue as throwing 8 yesterday and today. That's just from barely paying attention, but my guess is that the appearance fatigue is nearly the same for all pitchers, endurance comes more important with pitch counts.
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Black Forst = Black Forest?

And Baden hasn't been a Grand Duchy since 1918.
You got me on the Black Forest typo

Well, officially it's of course not a Grand Duchy anymore. But we guys have a strong regional identity (don't caring much for Germany) and therefore the term "Großherzogtum Baden" along with the yellow & red flag is still very common down here. Of course not wanting the Grand Duke back
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Old 01-27-2008, 07:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks for your answers!

Well Fujita wasn't much used as I don't have many save opportunities.

I give you the screenshot of Stetter who happened to be the setup-man of Fujita for the last two days.



Looks like Stetter is almost as tired as Fujita, even if he has better endurance.

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That was my point above. If you use guys on consecutive days they will be tired no matter what their endurance. It's so that their seasonal numbers will be in line with real life results.
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That was my point above. If you use guys on consecutive days they will be tired no matter what their endurance. It's so that their seasonal numbers will be in line with real life results.
Yes, its true ...

A day later Fujita was at 75 %. Had to use him in an emergency closing situation where he threw 13 pitches. Next day he was at 63 %.
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Too be honest given their Endurance, I'd have to make Fujita and Stetter my lefty specialists and go get me some relievers with some endurance. Yeesh!
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Stetter looks like he has been hittin the crack pipe.
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Too be honest given their Endurance, I'd have to make Fujita and Stetter my lefty specialists and go get me some relievers with some endurance. Yeesh!
Stetter got a talent hit and is not supposed to be around next season. But as long he more or less does his job, he will stay active.

Fujita was my original left-handed set-up man, but when Cordero failed badly as closer I gave him a chance then. Since then he converted 15 of 16 chances.
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I see now. Kind of a making the best of a bad situation (cordero injury) and playing the hot hand (15 of 16 does mean he is on a roll). Though come to think of it I dont remember ever coming across an Endurance that low. (Definitely not on major league level anyhow)
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I see now. Kind of a making the best of a bad situation (cordero injury) and playing the hot hand (15 of 16 does mean he is on a roll). Though come to think of it I dont remember ever coming across an Endurance that low. (Definitely not on major league level anyhow)
I traded Cordero as he was below average in my first season, and had a horrible start to my second one. He couldn't throw strikes at all. Didn't do much better at Philadelphia where Gordon is still the closer and Cordero battles a 6.00 ERA.
As I don't have many save situations I'm rather happy with Fujita so far. Didn't pay attention at his low endurance when I signed him, but good lefties are very rare in my game.

If you need more details about Cordero's collapse read my story. Traded him in late April or early May 2008.
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Old 01-30-2008, 02:18 AM   #20 (permalink)
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oops, reread your post. for some reason I read failed as injured. I have no idea why.

Yeah, I've read some of your dynasty and liked it. I'm just still a great bit behind.
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