When to bring up a Top Prospect.

jmaness84 · 02-03-2008, 12:55 PM

If you have a Top Prospect that is in AAA and the OOTP report says he's ready for the Majors, should you bring him up even if he's not good enough to make your 25 man roster so that he can develop further?

I have no data that supports this, but it does seem to me if I leave a good prospect in AAA long enough he will usually decline and never come close to any sort of potential that he had.

Charley575 · 02-03-2008, 01:10 PM

Yeah, good question. I'm still struggling with this myself. I guess my default position is, that when they stop developing at AAA, it's time to let 'em sink or swim.

jmaness84 · 02-03-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley575

Yeah, good question. I'm still struggling with this myself. I guess my default position is, that when they stop developing at AAA, it's time to let 'em sink or swim.

It's a tough call when your in a division race and you have to send down/release your super uitility guy who can help your team win to make room for your prospect. Not to mention you have to try to get the prospect a good amount of AB's so that he can develop properly.

Charley575 · 02-03-2008, 01:52 PM

Well, do you have roster expansion enabled? If so, bring him up when rosters expand and work him in where you can. Obviously, you don't want to shoot yourself in the foot, but starting him every few days, particularly against the opposition's weaker starters, may not hurt you too much. That's assuming he's a hitter. If he's a pitcher, do the same thing, but use him in long relief.

bp_ · 02-03-2008, 02:19 PM

The manual says this about development and playing time:

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Minor league players who get little playing time might not develop as quickly as others. However, major league players and players on a reserve roster develop normally even without playing time.

So, it seems to me that if you don't have a spot to start him put him on your bench if you think he'd develop more in the majors right now.

discodude5 · 02-03-2008, 04:06 PM

Glad you posted the manual link bp_, I was just going to ask about that.

It seems strange that just being on the reserve roster will lead to development the same as if he's getting regular starts in the majors.

discodude5 · 02-03-2008, 04:11 PM

What about a player in A who is ready for AA and putting up good stats but there is a logjam at the position so he won't play much? The DH spot is filled by another bigtime prospect so can't even put him in there.

Is it better to leave him at A?

wlight1 · 02-03-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by discodude5

What about a player in A who is ready for AA and putting up good stats but there is a logjam at the position so he won't play much? The DH spot is filled by another bigtime prospect so can't even put him in there.

Is it better to leave him at A?

This is a question I'd love to have a definitive answer to. It seems like this is always happening to me, having a bunch of prospects at the same position at the same levels at the same time. Lately I've been trying to squeeze guys in at any position I can (if I have 2 huge LFs and can't use the DH spot, I just put the guy with better defensive ratings in RF and hope it works out). I'm afraid this stunts their development too, but I think it's better than leaving them stagnating in A or benching them in AA. Short of planning better amateur draft strategies, it's the best I've got.

bp_ · 02-03-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wlight1

I just put the guy with better defensive ratings in RF and hope it works out). I'm afraid this stunts their development too,

I don't think learning a position stunts any development - though I could be wrong on that.

I always have my minor league players learning more than one or two positions so they don't have to learn them when they get to the majors (if they get to the majors)

Left-handed Badger · 02-03-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by discodude5

Glad you posted the manual link bp_, I was just going to ask about that.

It seems strange that just being on the reserve roster will lead to development the same as if he's getting regular starts in the majors.

Well, in real life, he could get "pointers" from the vets.

Left-handed Badger · 02-03-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bp_

I don't think learning a position stunts any development - though I could be wrong on that.

I always have my minor league players learning more than one or two positions so they don't have to learn them when they get to the majors (if they get to the majors)

I do this a lot too. It does seem to stunt their offensive production while they are learning their new position. Sometimes it stunts their development, sometimes not. But, if they can only play one position chances are it will be unlikely he is ever going to be able to break in with me. (At least prospects on the bubble). Course Catcher can be the exception to the one position thing.

thomamon · 02-03-2008, 11:34 PM

I personally hate playing a huge spec out of position when he is developing. I usually wait till he's in AAA and close to fully developed before teaching him a new position.

I definitely feel that teaching a new position can hinder a specs development, if he is early on in his development.

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jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,681	When to bring up a Top Prospect. If you have a Top Prospect that is in AAA and the OOTP report says he's ready for the Majors, should you bring him up even if he's not good enough to make your 25 man roster so that he can develop further? I have no data that supports this, but it does seem to me if I leave a good prospect in AAA long enough he will usually decline and never come close to any sort of potential that he had.

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02-03-2008, 01:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Charley575 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 238	Yeah, good question. I'm still struggling with this myself. I guess my default position is, that when they stop developing at AAA, it's time to let 'em sink or swim.

02-03-2008, 01:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
Charley575 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 238	Well, do you have roster expansion enabled? If so, bring him up when rosters expand and work him in where you can. Obviously, you don't want to shoot yourself in the foot, but starting him every few days, particularly against the opposition's weaker starters, may not hurt you too much. That's assuming he's a hitter. If he's a pitcher, do the same thing, but use him in long relief.

02-03-2008, 04:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
discodude5 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 146	Glad you posted the manual link bp_, I was just going to ask about that. It seems strange that just being on the reserve roster will lead to development the same as if he's getting regular starts in the majors.

02-03-2008, 04:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
discodude5 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 146	What about a player in A who is ready for AA and putting up good stats but there is a logjam at the position so he won't play much? The DH spot is filled by another bigtime prospect so can't even put him in there. Is it better to leave him at A?

02-03-2008, 11:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
thomamon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 4,014	I personally hate playing a huge spec out of position when he is developing. I usually wait till he's in AAA and close to fully developed before teaching him a new position. I definitely feel that teaching a new position can hinder a specs development, if he is early on in his development.