Small OOTP 9 Update

[HerbD]

Its never going to be any good until you let us enter the stats of players to produce the player rating.

Until that can be done by inputing stats instead of ratings I don't think it will get any better. You have to "guess" for a lack of a better term to find the proper ratings mix to make players as you want them to be.

That is going to make it difficult for roster makers.

I agree with this 100%. I'd also like the ability to edit the player stats such as minor league and post season. Those did not move over from 6.5 and there should be a way to input them to preserve an online league's history. I'd also like to see more cato features such as post season/minor league leaderboards.

[CalvinHobbes]

I love jbmagic, he keeps me entertained. Well, to be honest, it's all the responsed to his posts that I enjoy so much.

It's also so funny that every single year lots of people complain about the price and lots of others respond with, it's less than taking gf/wife to movie with popcorn, etc.

I just wonder why they post at all? Do you think that Marcus will suddenly say, Oh, you're right, the game should only be x amount. Either buy the game or don't, it matters not to me what your opinion is. If you think the game sucks, go away, stop inundating us with your pathetic posts. To paraphrase someone/somewhere "When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you"

I only posted my choice to purchase the game to show my support for the product/Markus; not to be heard. As you can see, I've been on the boards for 4 years and don't have a lot to say.

[statfreak]

Originally Posted by HerbD

I agree with this 100%. I'd also like the ability to edit the player stats such as minor league and post season. Those did not move over from 6.5 and there should be a way to input them to preserve an online league's history. I'd also like to see more cato features such as post season/minor league leaderboards.

you can produce players based on stats by entering them in the lahman database and importing them. I believe you can also alter stats using the csv export/import functions. Again, the abitlity to do those things is in the game. I agree there could be an easier way, but it can be done now.

[bababui]

Originally Posted by CalvinHobbes

"When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you"

Which is the posting philosophy of the critics too.

[glenmere14]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

The game as it stands now does not do well with moves from the IF to the OF or vice versa. Or catcher, but then again nobody moves to catcher during a career (of course, Carlton Fisk, Craig Biggio, Johnny Bench, Dale Murphy, and Mike Piazza all moved away from it with varying degrees of success). Otherwise, you are correct, sir! Also, I would not be surprised if the IF/OF/C thing gets rectified with this year's version. I would be slightly surprised if it didn't, actually.

Jorge Posada would be a rare convert to the catching position, but then again, it was in the minior leagues when he was moved from the infield (2nd base I believe) to behind the dish.

Regarding the pricing, I have no problem buying OOTP 9 sight unseen as I have bought other OOTP versions on a pre- order basis prior and was only disapointed once, slightly - OOTP 2006.

[bp_]

Originally Posted by BruceM

Kind of like you want it to go forward to suit your needs and wants. Pot to kettle, hello???

Don't get me wrong, I am also of opinion that 2007 and OOTP8 are by far the best versions, but I also have a great deal of respect for the people who prefer the earlier versions. They were the people who helped support this game all through the early years and helped it grow in many ways. They have every right to express their opinion without being labelled as selfish.

They were also the people that asked for all the improvements and changes that led OOTP to where it is today. To quote someone else earlier in this thread...you reap what you _____.

[Boom Boom]

Originally Posted by ctorg

I've said before that I think of OOTP as a subscription service. Every year I pay a given fee and get the most updated version.

That is exactly what Sports Mogul founder Clay said recently. He feels that the game is a 1 year subscription service. BM is doing pretty much the same as ootp is doing with the non-features, they are working on the base and improving gameplay.

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by statfreak

you can produce players based on stats by entering them in the lahman database and importing them. I believe you can also alter stats using the csv export/import functions. Again, the abitlity to do those things is in the game. I agree there could be an easier way, but it can be done now.

Far too much work. This should be an in game feature in the player editor.

[HerbD]

Originally Posted by statfreak

you can produce players based on stats by entering them in the lahman database and importing them. I believe you can also alter stats using the csv export/import functions. Again, the abitlity to do those things is in the game. I agree there could be an easier way, but it can be done now.

I don't believe there is a way to edit post season stats. That is something that should have been included in the conversion from 6.5 to higher.

[ashantewarrier]

Thanks for the news Markus! Good stuff! Yes, I will gladly pay for OOTP9!

[StyxNCa]

I guess I will wait to read what others say about 9. I have been very happy with 8 and have stated before that unless something completely earth shaking is done with version 9 or later versions I wouldn't be buying any more. From the little that was stated, I don't see anything earth shaking.

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Do you think by tweaking this version and AI improvements, that its going to make the game better finally?

A lot of the same bugs has been carrying over from version to the next version to the next etc.. And his readme always says tweak, Ai improvements, etc.

Anyone know how we can fix the bug where annoying people keep popping up from time to time just to complain even tho they haven't touched the game in years?

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by thomamon

Anyone know how we can fix the bug where annoying people keep popping up from time to time just to complain even tho they haven't touched the game in years?

I guess the truth hurts.

How the hell you know if I haven't touch the game in years? Thanks for being concern but get your facts right.

You want people to keep quiet and not state there been bugs carry over from version to version to version etc.

I am not the only one that mentions about the bugs. I guess you like to pick on me.

Some people like to hide at FOF forum and express their opinions there so no one here will see it and not say nothing here. A lot of people at FOF are unhappy about the game.

Also its funny how the betatester here like to defend the game because they got it for free. You and Sweed. I sure didn't see you contribute much for being a betatester on the last version or version before that.

If you keep quiet than nothing will ever get fix.

I only care and want the game to be the best it can be. If your always postive than nothing will ever get done.

I want ootp 9 to be really good. Please don't fault me for that.

[Raidergoo]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

I guess the truth hurts.

Originally Posted by jbmagic

I am really excited. I can't fall asleep.

This version is very impressive. I think everyone is going to be real happy. I know I am.

Hmm.

[thomamon]

The truth is you only pop in on occaision and say the same old thing over and over instead of trying to do so in any constructive way.

If you don't like the game, thats fine. If you want improvements, that's fine too. But there is a way to post it and there is a way not to post it. You my friend, bring nothing of value to your posts and thats my problem.

Originally Posted by jbmagic

I guess the truth hurts.

How the hell you know if I haven't touch the game in years? Thanks for being concern but get your facts right.

You want people to keep quiet and not state there been bugs carry over from version to version to version etc.

I am not the only one that mentions about the bugs. I guess you like to pick on me.

Some people like to hide at FOF forum and express their opinions there so no one here will see it and not say nothing here. A lot of people at FOF are unhappy about the game.

Also its funny how the betatester here like to defend the game because they got it for free. You and Sweed. I sure didn't see you contribute much for being a betatester on the last version or version before that.

If you keep quiet than nothing will ever get fix.

I only care and want the game to be the best it can be. If your always postive than nothing will ever get done.

I want ootp 9 to be really good. Please don't fault me for that.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Hmm.

yep

I never said I don't like it.

I just want more improvements and squash the old bugs that been there from previous versions still.

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

yep

I never said I don't like it.

I just want more improvements and squash the old bugs that been there from previous versions still.

Except that you haven't even bothered to mention one of these "old bugs". Hint: "the AI" is not a bug. Even if you hear the people over at FOFC say it over and over again, "the AI" is not a bug. Specific issues with specific assets of the AI may be worked on and may indeed be bugs to be quashed, but the AI as a whole? Not a bug, sorry. To be honest, I have my doubts that you even know what you're talking about when you say AI.

[StyxNCa]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

I thought so too the last two versions... but after having implemented it, I have to admit it adds a whole lot to the in-game experience

Well I listen to the XM while playing so I am glad the older versions didn't have sound.

[pstrickert]

OK. So you listen to XM while playing OOTP. How can you be "glad" OOTP had no sound the last couple of versions? Why would it even matter to you? Please enlighten me. Thanks.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

I guess the truth hurts.

How the hell you know if I haven't touch the game in years? Thanks for being concern but get your facts right.

You want people to keep quiet and not state there been bugs carry over from version to version to version etc.

I am not the only one that mentions about the bugs. I guess you like to pick on me.

No, but you are the only one that copies and pastes them.
Maybe you should mention some of the ones you have actually found yourself?

And I like the classic jb response "why you pick on me?"

Some people like to hide at FOF forum and express their opinions there so no one here will see it and not say nothing here. A lot of people at FOF are unhappy about the game.

And some people have been banned from posting at fofc for trolling and other infractions. Don't really need to mention any names do I?

Oh, yeah thanks for cutting and pasting from my post at fofc (thank God they still let you read the board there) into your very well thought out post here, things never change. Oh, wait a minute I guess they do, you cut off the first part of the sentence, capitalized one letter, and changed one word. So, yeah I guess it's really an original thought from you. Congratulations you've earned my respect.

Also its funny how the betatester here like to defend the game because they got it for free. You and Sweed. I sure didn't see you contribute much for being a betatester on the last version or version before that.

I'm a beta tester? Might want to get your facts right. I've never gotten a free copy of OOTP nor have I ever been offered one, though I have purchased every version from v4-v2007. The only thing I tested was fixes in a patch. Why was I asked to test the patch you might well ask? Well because I was the one that found and reported the problems and was only asked after that to test to see if they were indeed fixed. So, in other words I found and reported problems as just a normal user of the game.
But thanks for playing.

If you keep quiet than nothing will ever get fix.

You're correct it WE keep quiet nothing will get fixed. However if you keep quite it really won't matter because you really don't say (cut and paste) anything that hasn't been said before.

I only care and want the game to be the best it can be. If your always postive than nothing will ever get done.

I want ootp 9 to be really good. Please don't fault me for that.

And if you are never positive, then what? Everything will get done?

Constructive criticism has always been welcomed. You though post things like...

Do you think by tweaking this version and AI improvements, that its going to make the game better finally?

A lot of the same bugs has been carrying over from version to the next version to the next etc.. And his readme always says tweak, Ai improvements, etc.

In one swoop you imply that any AI improvements have done nothing to improve the game. Is this how you really feel? You do realize it's a never ending process, don't you?

Or it can also be taken as you think Markus has never tweaked or improved the AI at all

Wouldn't it be better to post something specific like "I see Markus is going to do some more work on the AI. I hope he looks at x,y, and z because they aren't working quite right in my opinion. Here's how I think they should be working"? Or would that be too positive so nothing would get done?