Small OOTP 9 Update - Page 19

Ragnar · 03-14-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Even if Markus was retiring, the source code is worth a good chunk of change to him, I am sure. He's not going to give it up. The Football Pro 98 team still hasn't released all of their code, and there is zero chance that game will ever be remade.

Oddly enough this is true. Not only do they refuse to release the rest of the code, but are not willing to consider it's release. I know a few people that asked and were willing to pay. But no consideration was given to it. Does anyone have any idea why?

MadMax58 · 03-14-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnybourbon

If you could debug the code, even voluntarily, would you?

In a heartbeat. But while I love the game and would be happy to help it if I could...I love the opportunity to learn more. This would be what I would get out of it more than anything. Seeing how somebody else handles something that I might normally handle less effectively is the type of stuff I really like.

But I am positive there are much better qualified people out there than me. My "dayjob" is not coding FT...thus I have only my spare time to get better. I have a good deal of involvement in my company in software development...but I could never realistically make it my FT job.

BaseballMan · 03-14-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Even if Markus was retiring, the source code is worth a good chunk of change to him, I am sure. He's not going to give it up. The Football Pro 98 team still hasn't released all of their code, and there is zero chance that game will ever be remade.

Oh yeah i agree but unless he was leasing the code to say some 3rd party developer that would keep making the game or a baseball game based on his code it wouldnt really be much use to him. That is it wouldnt be making any money.
Because most people wouldnt be buying OOTP9 10 years from now if this was say his last version.
I know Markus is not in it just for the money. I beleive he enjoys his creativity with the game but i couldnt blame him if he still wanted to make some profits from his work after retiring from it.
Why waste years of hard work and dedication?

Mike Lowe · 03-15-2008, 11:20 PM

Have not read the entire thread but is there a plan for fixing the issue with waivers in which a team could pull a player back and then place him in the minors without penalty?

Sweed · 03-16-2008, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by westendcards

Will there be a fix for pre-season play so you can use minor leaguers without signing them to a contract?

This isn't broken in my solo league. I can bring up minor league guys, that are on the 40 man roster, during spring training and play them. I then send them down before regular season opening day and the are still on minor league contracts.

Using OOTP2007, fully patched.

ootp3to6 · 03-16-2008, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Hey guys!

I just want to keep you in the loop a bit

OOTP 9 is in development, but has not entered beta testing yet, so the release will not be before Opening Day. We will start a preordering period in March though, so keep your eyes open for a nice offer.

Here are few of the things that will be new in the game:
- In-game sound
- Totally recoded scouting
- Revised financials, including two optional revenue sharing systems
- Some nifty stuff for online leagues
- Even more improved historical league support, resulting in pretty much perfect results
- Player suspensions
- Improved interface
- Improved HTML & reports
- Tons of tweaks & AI improvements
- A great new skin
- 2008 MLB rosters

This year we will not add hundreds of bells & whistles, but rather improve what we already have. Feature-wise the game is already lightyears ahead of the competition, so we're focusing on making the game more enjoyable

The price will probably be $39.90 for the full version, and $24.90 in the preorder period.

Cheers!
Markus

Two weeks have gone by. Please give us another update. Looking forward to version 9.
Thank you.

CRM114 · 03-16-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ootp3to6

Two weeks have gone by. Please give us another update. Looking forward to version 9.
Thank you.

Aren't we pushy.

bababui · 03-16-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CRM114

Aren't we pushy.

How was he pushy? Its a very reasonable request.

RchW · 03-16-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Lowe

Have not read the entire thread but is there a plan for fixing the issue with waivers in which a team could pull a player back and then place him in the minors without penalty?

Not sure I understand. If you can pull a player back then he must have options left. If so then you can place him in the minors. If the player is out of options then waivers are irrevocable.

If the player clears waivers he can be assigned to the minors. The exception is a veteran player with 5yr MLB service. He can refuse a minors assignment.

The Wolf · 03-16-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

How was he pushy? Its a very reasonable request.

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IMO biweekly updates are utterly reasonable. I'd like weekly updates, but biweekly would do.

ootp3to6 · 03-16-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

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IMO biweekly updates are utterly reasonable. I'd like weekly updates, but biweekly would do.

Thanks.

CRM114 · 03-17-2008, 03:32 PM

Spending $30 on a game every year or so doesn't entitle you to any number of updates. The person who determines what is a "reasonable" interval for updates is Markus, not any of your arbitrary measures.

Find me another consumer product that grants you this level of access to its creator.

kckid4u · 03-17-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CRM114

Spending $30 on a game every year or so doesn't entitle you to any number of updates. The person who determines what is a "reasonable" interval for updates is Markus, not any of your arbitrary measures.

Find me another consumer product that grants you this level of access to its creator.

YES! It's good to see someone standing up for what is "good" and "right" in this world. (Dramatic music playing in the background.)

mrbill · 03-17-2008, 04:25 PM

What's good and right is keeping the people paying $30-$40 a year happy

If they want updates and get them, maybe they'll buy more. If they don't get updates, maybe they'll buy anyway.

IMO, this update was solid given that we're still a couple months away from a release, but they should get more frequent to build up to what's coming. Of course, I'm not buying until people play it out and test for all the nitpicky bugs that bring the game down for me, but updates about sound would help someone else or something

whitesocks · 03-17-2008, 05:46 PM

I would just like a general release date. Before anyone says that I have no right to expect that just remember that other games and software have general release dates 1st quarter or summer of 08. I would just like to be able to judge if I want to wait around for it or buy another product. I know that I am new to this game and it sounds good but does sound like it does have its faults so I am not totally committed to it like someone else might be. The release date would help me judge without another update needed. Just a thought. Don't bite my head off.....

Neags23 · 03-17-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by whitesocks

I would just like a general release date. Before anyone says that I have no right to expect that just remember that other games and software have general release dates 1st quarter or summer of 08. I would just like to be able to judge if I want to wait around for it or buy another product. I know that I am new to this game and it sounds good but does sound like it does have its faults so I am not totally committed to it like someone else might be. The release date would help me judge without another update needed. Just a thought. Don't bite my head off.....

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Originally Posted by Doughnuts?

So, the release, before the All Star break? Just askin'.

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Way before!

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BaseballMan · 03-17-2008, 06:38 PM

I think Markus is just waiting for April 1st to announce that ootp9 has been canceled and will not be released until spring 2009. Only to surprise everyone and release it april 2nd.

The Wolf · 03-17-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CRM114

Find me another consumer product that grants you this level of access to its creator.

Dude, lots of game companies do this.

The Wolf · 03-17-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by whitesocks

I would just like a general release date. Before anyone says that I have no right to expect that just remember that other games and software have general release dates 1st quarter or summer of 08. I would just like to be able to judge if I want to wait around for it or buy another product.

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Cryomaniac · 03-19-2008, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BaseballMan

I think Markus is just waiting for April 1st to announce that ootp9 has been canceled and will not be released until spring 2009. Only to surprise everyone and release it april 2nd.

Thats the kind of arsey thing I'd do lol.

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whitesocks Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 61	What I would like is at least a general release date. I would just like a general release date. Before anyone says that I have no right to expect that just remember that other games and software have general release dates 1st quarter or summer of 08. I would just like to be able to judge if I want to wait around for it or buy another product. I know that I am new to this game and it sounds good but does sound like it does have its faults so I am not totally committed to it like someone else might be. The release date would help me judge without another update needed. Just a thought. Don't bite my head off.....

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03-17-2008, 03:32 PM	#372 (permalink)
CRM114 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 89	Spending $30 on a game every year or so doesn't entitle you to any number of updates. The person who determines what is a "reasonable" interval for updates is Markus, not any of your arbitrary measures. Find me another consumer product that grants you this level of access to its creator.

03-17-2008, 06:38 PM	#377 (permalink)
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,628	I think Markus is just waiting for April 1st to announce that ootp9 has been canceled and will not be released until spring 2009. Only to surprise everyone and release it april 2nd.