No Scout Finds?

Millsy · 03-21-2008, 09:53 PM

16 team league online league w/ full minors, Mexican and Japanese leagues. We have gone a full season with 0 scout finds. Not unusual? Unusual? Bug?

I run another league with a number of foreign teams and we made a point of increasing the talent level of those particular countries. We also have a lot of scout finds in this league so I'm a bit concerned why we aren't seeing any in the other league.

v.2008

tcblcommish · 03-21-2008, 11:07 PM

Could it be that your league doesn't have the "maintain hidden players" selected?

Millsy · 03-22-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tcblcommish

Could it be that your league doesn't have the "maintain hidden players" selected?

Nope, that option is selected. Maybe using feeder leagues has something to do with it?

injury log · 03-22-2008, 12:31 PM

Which countries are you scouting? My understanding is that if you scout a nation which has a league, you won't find any hidden players- the idea being that the players you might find aren't hidden, they're playing. But I don't play with multiple nation universes, so I haven't tested that. I did compile data about frequency of finding hidden players (in a USA-only league) here:

International Scouting Experiment

That's a really long thread, but basically, when scouting a nation with 'Excellent' baseball quality, each scout should find three players per year on average, with a fair bit of variability. The only factor that seems to matter is the 'baseball quality' rating of the country- country population, and scout ratings don't seem to make a difference. You'll find fewer players in nations with lower baseball quality.

That was from one of the later patches of OOTP-2007, though, and I suppose frequencies might have changed in a more recent version.

karadur · 03-22-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by injury log

Which countries are you scouting? My understanding is that if you scout a nation which has a league, you won't find any hidden players- the idea being that the players you might find aren't hidden, they're playing. But I don't play with multiple nation universes, so I haven't tested that. I did compile data about frequency of finding hidden players (in a USA-only league) here:

www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/ootp-8-2007-general-discussions/151652-international-scouting-experiment.html

That's a really long thread, but basically, when scouting a nation with 'Excellent' baseball quality, each scout should find three players per year on average, with a fair bit of variability. The only factor that seems to matter is the 'baseball quality' rating of the country- country population, and scout ratings don't seem to make a difference. You'll find fewer players in nations with lower baseball quality.

That was from one of the later patches of OOTP-2007, though, and I suppose frequencies might have changed in a more recent version.

I can't speak for the other owners, but I've been scouting the Domincan, Cuba. South Korea and Canada all year (one or two others off and on with the other scouts) and had no finds. We're now entering the 2nd human run season, the first 20 were simmed with the AI at the helm.

injury log · 03-22-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by karadur

I can't speak for the other owners, but I've been scouting the Domincan, Cuba. South Korea and Canada all year (one or two others off and on with the other scouts) and had no finds. We're now entering the 2nd human run season, the first 20 were simmed with the AI at the helm.

Yes, it would be wildly improbable that you find *no* players that way, unless there was something amiss. If nations.txt has been customized, that could lead to issues; perhaps there is some issue with hidden players and online play (don't know much about that); or perhaps 'hidden players' are disabled- though it seems from the above posts, they aren't. Not sure what the issue could be otherwise.

Millsy · 03-22-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by injury log

Yes, it would be wildly improbable that you find *no* players that way, unless there was something amiss. If nations.txt has been customized, that could lead to issues; perhaps there is some issue with hidden players and online play (don't know much about that); or perhaps 'hidden players' are disabled- though it seems from the above posts, they aren't. Not sure what the issue could be otherwise.

Thats just it, I run 2 online leagues. One with no problems and this 2nd one with no scout finds. I didn't do any nations.txt edits with this league either. Its not that this is a huge problem, but certainly strange where some team isn't at least turning up the occasional foreign MR.

Recte44 · 05-27-2008, 08:34 PM

Not that the hidden players box is checked, but it's faded out. We haven't had a single scout signing. Can anyone help???

Bishop · 05-28-2008, 02:19 AM

it's faded out because you can't change it after the league has started.

I've found that sometimes it takes a while to find prospects. I'll have a year where I didn't find anything, then 3 one year, just depends.

Recte44 · 05-28-2008, 02:25 AM

Fair enough....but not a single scout find by any team in three years???

Bishop · 05-28-2008, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Recte44

Fair enough....but not a single scout find by any team in three years???

three years is puzzling, that's certainly true.

If I were the commish, I'd make a copy of the league, sim out a few years and see if any are found.

03-21-2008, 09:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Millsy Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 40	No Scout Finds? 16 team league online league w/ full minors, Mexican and Japanese leagues. We have gone a full season with 0 scout finds. Not unusual? Unusual? Bug? I run another league with a number of foreign teams and we made a point of increasing the talent level of those particular countries. We also have a lot of scout finds in this league so I'm a bit concerned why we aren't seeing any in the other league. v.2008 __________________ Commissioner: GUBA Owner: Jackson Gators Commissioner: MBWBA Owner: Cape Cod Hooks

05-27-2008, 08:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
Recte44 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: West Allis, WI Posts: 1,567	Not that the hidden players box is checked, but it's faded out. We haven't had a single scout signing. Can anyone help??? __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, Owner: Milwaukee Braves, Other Reality Baseball 2 Recruiter, Owner: Pago Pago Coconuts

05-28-2008, 02:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bishop All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tejas Posts: 620	it's faded out because you can't change it after the league has started. I've found that sometimes it takes a while to find prospects. I'll have a year where I didn't find anything, then 3 one year, just depends. __________________

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Recte44 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: West Allis, WI Posts: 1,567	Fair enough....but not a single scout find by any team in three years??? __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, Owner: Milwaukee Braves, Other Reality Baseball 2 Recruiter, Owner: Pago Pago Coconuts

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tcblcommish All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,683	Could it be that your league doesn't have the "maintain hidden players" selected?

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injury log Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 2,302	Which countries are you scouting? My understanding is that if you scout a nation which has a league, you won't find any hidden players- the idea being that the players you might find aren't hidden, they're playing. But I don't play with multiple nation universes, so I haven't tested that. I did compile data about frequency of finding hidden players (in a USA-only league) here: International Scouting Experiment That's a really long thread, but basically, when scouting a nation with 'Excellent' baseball quality, each scout should find three players per year on average, with a fair bit of variability. The only factor that seems to matter is the 'baseball quality' rating of the country- country population, and scout ratings don't seem to make a difference. You'll find fewer players in nations with lower baseball quality. That was from one of the later patches of OOTP-2007, though, and I suppose frequencies might have changed in a more recent version.