I'm Confused...Can You Create A Fictional League With Historical Players?

[bucketsndimes]

Is it possible to create a league (beginning in 1959, starting out with 12 teams, but I will expand) and have the pool for the inaugural draft be filled with players from that time period?

My goal is to create my own league that follows the financial changes that really took place, but setup differently from MLB. However, if possible I would like real players.

Can I have the Providence Gunslingers select Joe DiMaggio in the inaugural draft and then decades later take Ken Griffey Jr. in the amateur draft? Or is this not possible?

[lencombs]

Originally Posted by bucketsndimes

Is it possible to create a league (beginning in 1959, starting out with 12 teams, but I will expand) and have the pool for the inaugural draft be filled with players from that time period?

My goal is to create my own league that follows the financial changes that really took place, but setup differently from MLB. However, if possible I would like real players.

Can I have the Providence Gunslingers select Joe DiMaggio in the inaugural draft and then decades later take Ken Griffey Jr. in the amateur draft? Or is this not possible?

that should be possible, I play with real leqgues and fictional players, but I think you can set up your fictional league structure, populate it with real players then assign them to teams or hold an inagural draft. someone else that plays that way can help i'm sure.

[bucketsndimes]

I figured out how to get the players in through the amateur draft. The problem is that I was planning on not having an amateur draft for the first few seasons. Also, it always starts out with fictional players for the inaugural draft. I don't know how to change that.

[Kelric]

The easiest way to do this would probably be importing the historical season you want just like if you were playing real teams/real players. Then do the 'release all for initial draft' thing, delete all the teams, create new ones, change your game settings, remember to create a new schedule, then continue to the draft.

[bucketsndimes]

Originally Posted by Kelric

The easiest way to do this would probably be importing the historical season you want just like if you were playing real teams/real players. Then do the 'release all for initial draft' thing, delete all the teams, create new ones, change your game settings, remember to create a new schedule, then continue to the draft.

Guess that makes sense, I'll try it out. Is there anyway to get the new players to come in besides an amateur draft though?

[Kelric]

Sure there is: don't turn on the amateur draft but keep 'Automatically Import Historical Rookies' on. Unfortunately, I think that just sends them to their real life teams rather than to free agency. Not sure what it will do with fictional teams. This sounds like one you'll just have to test out for yourself and then come back and let us know what happened.

[bucketsndimes]

I don't know if I can tell if anything happened. If someone wants to give me a certain player that they know comes in during the 1961 draft or something I can try it. Right now it doesn't really look like it did anything.

[Kemp]

Originally Posted by Kelric

Sure there is: don't turn on the amateur draft but keep 'Automatically Import Historical Rookies' on. Unfortunately, I think that just sends them to their real life teams rather than to free agency. Not sure what it will do with fictional teams.

I wonder if he could edit the Lahman db so that the players will automatically be assigned to the "correct" fictional team?

Just thinking out loud, you'll need to test either way.

[Beach23BoyP]

Originally Posted by bucketsndimes

Is it possible to create a league (beginning in 1959, starting out with 12 teams, but I will expand) and have the pool for the inaugural draft be filled with players from that time period?

My goal is to create my own league that follows the financial changes that really took place, but setup differently from MLB. However, if possible I would like real players.

Can I have the Providence Gunslingers select Joe DiMaggio in the inaugural draft and then decades later take Ken Griffey Jr. in the amateur draft? Or is this not possible?

This "has been" a problem since OOTP2006. It was always easly to setup before then. I gave up and started an historical league in 1958 and the teams then draft the "new real players" each year. After about 5 or 6 seasons the teams don't look like they did in real life.

BTW, I always liked my "Western Baseball League" with 3 divisions and 12 teams or two leagues with six teams each (OOTP6.5a). I hope Markus fixes this so it easier to setup than it is now. It can be done, but it is a real pain and a big hassle.

[bucketsndimes]

Setting up the inaugural draft seems fine, and importing the historical rookies is fine as long as I set up an amateur draft. The problem is that I don't want to set up an amateur draft because my league has no minor leagues yet, there's really no where to store these players. I guess I could have like a 2-round draft like in the NBA, but it seems kind of pointless. My goal was always to bring the draft into the fold after I had created some minor leagues, but I'm running this league as if it's starting form scratch in 1959.

Hmm...well if anybody can help out on this go ahead, otherwise I guess I'll just go with a 2-round draft for now.

Thanks everyone else for the help so far, I'm always finding something that needs fixing, and you guys always seem to have the answers.

[Nez477]

Originally Posted by Kelric

The easiest way to do this would probably be importing the historical season you want just like if you were playing real teams/real players. Then do the 'release all for initial draft' thing, delete all the teams, create new ones, change your game settings, remember to create a new schedule, then continue to the draft.

ZOMG, I searched and search to see if I could find something like this but had no success.

Does this mean that in theory, I could start my historical league in, say 1968, which means that it'd start with all players in 1964, but then I could do a 'fantasy draft' more or less in 1968?

I've wanted to do a startup draft but couldn't figure out how to do it. The game always starts on January 1st, XXXX, where XXXX is the year I chose and all teams are autopopulated with the database players. But can I use this function to do a 'draft' before season XXXX starts?

[falkonisback]

Originally Posted by Nez477

ZOMG, I searched and search to see if I could find something like this but had no success.

Does this mean that in theory, I could start my historical league in, say 1968, which means that it'd start with all players in 1964, but then I could do a 'fantasy draft' more or less in 1968?

I've wanted to do a startup draft but couldn't figure out how to do it. The game always starts on January 1st, XXXX, where XXXX is the year I chose and all teams are autopopulated with the database players. But can I use this function to do a 'draft' before season XXXX starts?

Exactly..there is a function in the Game setup that says "Release all players and schedule inaugural draft"..and there ya go..draft away

[Nez477]

Originally Posted by falkonisback

Exactly..there is a function in the Game setup that says "Release all players and schedule inaugural draft"..and there ya go..draft away

*drooling*

I assume the past 4 years stats still factor in though? Like I can't start fresh in a certain year with no history, right?

[bucketsndimes]

Originally Posted by Nez477

*drooling*

I assume the past 4 years stats still factor in though? Like I can't start fresh in a certain year with no history, right?

You can 'Erase League History' under the league functions.

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by Kelric

The easiest way to do this would probably be importing the historical season you want just like if you were playing real teams/real players. Then do the 'release all for initial draft' thing, delete all the teams, create new ones, change your game settings, remember to create a new schedule, then continue to the draft.

That's the proper way to do it

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by Kelric

The easiest way to do this would probably be importing the historical season you want just like if you were playing real teams/real players. Then do the 'release all for initial draft' thing, delete all the teams, create new ones, change your game settings, remember to create a new schedule, then continue to the draft.

You can save a few steps here too, no need to delete the teams if you're keeping the same league structure. Just rename them all.

[Curtis]

I hope I'm not hijacking this thread, but BruceM's response brought up an issue I've wondered about for awhile.

Is the game capable of handling a modified historical league? What I'd like to do is start with 1962, then move and rename some franchises and restructure as one subleague with four five-team divisions. Will players still come in each year and be assigned to their historical team? If I was using the database that brings in players in their first professional season, rather than Lahman, would it still work?

Could I change the playoffs to three rounds? Could I play with one or two (or all) levels of minors, or are the historical leagues majors only?