OOTP 9 quickstart- Canadians needed

[Raidergoo]

OOTP 9 quickstart- minor league thread

I need the Canadian component of the OOTP board to comment on logos and suggest team names.

Thank you.












Take off, eh! Bunch of hosers.

[kq76]

I think BC is more the hotbed of baseball in Canada than Ontario is. The real life Canada-wide CBL failed pretty miserably a few years back, but many said it would have a better chance at starting small in the west and then growing east.

I'd like to give you my thoughts on your Ontario teams, but despite being from there originally, I don't know it well enough. Now if it was a west coast league I could give you lots of suggestions as I've made lots of fictional west coast CBL leagues.

It's good to see a Canadian league make it in nonetheless so thanks!

[Raidergoo]

Originally Posted by kq76

I think BC is more the hotbed of baseball in Canada than Ontario is. The real life Canada-wide CBL failed pretty miserably a few years back, but many said it would have a better chance at starting small in the west and then growing east.

I'd like to give you my thoughts on your Ontario teams, but despite being from there originally, I don't know it well enough. Now if it was a west coast league I could give you lots of suggestions as I've made lots of fictional west coast CBL leagues.

It's good to see a Canadian league make it in nonetheless so thanks!

Glad you liked it. Now I need another two dozen Canucks.

[darkenigma510]

I could maybe see a BC league and an Ontario League. Baseball in the prairies isn't really terribly big although it does exist. Not too sure about Quebec or the Martimes these days.

As far as Canadian population, I would have a dominant amount of Canadians comes from BC, next Ontario, and then the rest of the country. It shouldn't be based solely on population as the amount of Quebec players would likely be dispropotionately small versus disproportionately large in BC.

[Long_Long_Name]

Originally Posted by darkenigma510

I could maybe see a BC league and an Ontario League. Baseball in the prairies isn't really terribly big although it does exist. Not too sure about Quebec or the Martimes these days.

As far as Canadian population, I would have a dominant amount of Canadians comes from BC, next Ontario, and then the rest of the country. It shouldn't be based solely on population as the amount of Quebec players would likely be dispropotionately small versus disproportionately large in BC.

The Québec Capitales are doing a pretty good job, minor league baseball works pretty well in Québec. More Québecers than ever have reached the majors in the past 10 years than ever before. I don't know how it compares to BC,
however.

In any case, I think, if anything, this should be called "Ontarians" needed .

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by kq76

I think BC is more the hotbed of baseball in Canada than Ontario is.

Nowadays? Perhaps. Historically though, baseball in Ontario was more prominent. Toronto and Montreal both had clubs in the International League for many years; Ottawa had one for three years in the 1950s and another one more recently; Hamilton, London, St. Catharines, Brantford, and Welland have all had teams in the minor leagues at one point or another.

[kq76]

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

The Québec Capitales are doing a pretty good job, minor league baseball works pretty well in Québec. More Québecers than ever have reached the majors in the past 10 years than ever before. I don't know how it compares to BC,
however.

In any case, I think, if anything, this should be called "Ontarians" needed .

Yeah, I was thinking Quebec hasn't been too bad at producing major league talent recently. Quebec gets a bad, and IMO largely unfair, rep for the Expos. Still, I have my doubts that Quebec would support a number of minor league teams. You, of course, know it much better, but I keep reading how popular football is in Quebec nowadays.

BC OTOH seems to have been producing the majority of the really good Canadian major leaguers (recently) and we do play it a lot out here. Hockey's still #1 even out here, but I've always felt baseball was somewhere up there. We generally have a better climate for it too though. I think more people would be interested in coming out to games of it here as well.

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Nowadays? Perhaps. Historically though, baseball in Ontario was more prominent. Toronto and Montreal both had clubs in the International League for many years; Ottawa had one for three years in the 1950s and another one more recently; Hamilton, London, St. Catharines, Brantford, and Welland have all had teams in the minor leagues at one point or another.

Oh, for sure. Ontario was king for baseball, but I don't think it's been that way for awhile now. I'm shocked to find that Vancouver has the last affiliated minor league team in all of Canada. That's pretty sad. You'd probably know more about the why of all that than I though.

I should scrounge up some of the articles on CBL attendance I read..

[kq76]

dola..

My biggest sports dream would be to see a successful Canada-wide baseball league, something like the CFL. I doubt we'll see it though.

[bailey]

Originally Posted by kq76

dola..

My biggest sports dream would be to see a successful Canada-wide baseball league, something like the CFL. I doubt we'll see it though.

Yeah! 95 feet between the bases and 3 balls for a walk and 2 strikes for a strikeout!!

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by bailey

Yeah! 95 feet between the bases and 3 balls for a walk and 2 strikes for a strikeout!!

This board needs rep.

[ricko]

I'm no expert, but if this helps, great.

My little 8-team solo CBL can be found here: SION Home Page

I just used the biggest 8 cities to make up the major league, then next 8 to make up AAA, and so on down to Rookie Ball. All my logos are lifted from cephasjames' awesome collection.

In most cases, I tried to use a nickname that had some relation to the city.

Vancouver Pacifics
Edmonton Stars (just a random name)
Calgary Cowboys
Winnipeg Rebels

Toronto Comets (another random name)
Ottawa Rivermen
Quebec Capitales
Montreal Royales

My team's (Toronto) minor league organization has the following names (again, logos by cephasjames):

Hamilton Steelhounds
Barrie Blizzard
Saguenay Millers
Peterborough Power
Kawartha Lakes Waves

Other minor league nicknames are just random.

In the spirit of the Canadian Football League, I set the percentage of Canadian players to 50%. As a result, I do have a ton of francophone names. I always justified it by saying that alot of Canada's great athletes come from Quebec, and if there really were a CBL, many of them would play baseball instead of hockey.

[Long_Long_Name]

Originally Posted by ricko

My little 8-team solo CBL can be found here: SION Home Page

I just used the biggest 8 cities to make up the major league, then next 8 to make up AAA, and so on down to Rookie Ball. All my logos are lifted from cephasjames' awesome collection.

In most cases, I tried to use a nickname that had some relation to the city.

Vancouver Pacifics
Edmonton Stars (just a random name)
Calgary Cowboys
Winnipeg Rebels

Toronto Comets (another random name)
Ottawa Rivermen
Quebec Capitales
Montreal Royales

My team's (Toronto) minor league organization has the following names (again, logos by cephasjames):

Hamilton Steelhounds
Barrie Blizzard
Saguenay Millers
Peterborough Power
Kawartha Lakes Waves

I really like Comets

Royales, on the other hand, make little sense in French, as it's feminine. "Royaux", at least for a group of men, is much more appropriate . That said, I don't see what makes Montréal such a monarchic city, but that's for you to judge .

[ricko]

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

Royales, on the other hand, make little sense in French, as it's feminine. "Royaux", at least for a group of men, is much more appropriate . That said, I don't see what makes Montréal such a monarchic city, but that's for you to judge .

Thanks for the tip. My French stinks.

As for the nickname, I would just read a Wikipedia page on each city until I came across something that sounded cool. From the Montreal page:

"Champlain established in 1611 a fur trading post on the Island of Montreal, on a site initially named La Place Royale"

So I figured I was invoking an ancient name for the city. I also thought it was a neat tribute to Mont Royal, something that I always associate with the city.

After I settled on Royales, I learned that the real CBL team was actually called the same thing, too.

I would change it to Royaux, but I couldn't make the jersey!

[Raidergoo]

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

In any case, I think, if anything, this should be called "Ontarians" needed .

Ah, if you're lucky, I'll sneak an A ball team into Montreal or nearby. Maybe a Lake Champlain League.

[Long_Long_Name]

Originally Posted by ricko

Thanks for the tip. My French stinks.

As for the nickname, I would just read a Wikipedia page on each city until I came across something that sounded cool. From the Montreal page:

"Champlain established in 1611 a fur trading post on the Island of Montreal, on a site initially named La Place Royale"

So I figured I was invoking an ancient name for the city. I also thought it was a neat tribute to Mont Royal, something that I always associate with the city.

After I settled on Royales, I learned that the real CBL team was actually called the same thing, too.

I would change it to Royaux, but I couldn't make the jersey!

Well, obviously Montréal was settled under the French monarchy, so all the royal theme comes from there - but, really, Canada's ruler is still a monarch, so I figured it would qualify as much for Montréal as it would for Saskatoon. Your case makes sense .

As you might be aware, most nouns in French have a gender. Place is feminine (royale) and mont is masculine (royal). The masculine plural is Royaux, and the feminine plural is Royales.

I also cringed when the CBL called it the Royales, too. At least the Dodgers, in not making any attempt at French, got it right in English with Royals, back in the day.

[zukes]

I posted in your other thread just now OOTP 9 quickstart- minor league thread

Also check this out, feel free to steal whatever you like: My Managerial Career in the True Canadian Baseball League

[darkenigma510]

Originally Posted by bailey

Yeah! 95 feet between the bases and 3 balls for a walk and 2 strikes for a strikeout!!

It sould be 95 metres though

[CHOWDERHEAD]

While often forgotten, there are a few provinces to the east of Quebec. Maybe a little love for Newfoundland or Nova Scotia perhaps.

[Long_Long_Name]

Originally Posted by CHOWDERHEAD

While often forgotten, there are a few provinces to the east of Quebec. Maybe a little love for Newfoundland or Nova Scotia perhaps.

I always have trouble when I set up a Canadian league. I usually try to have 4 divisions, but it's kinda hard to play around since Québec is the only province with roughly a quarter of the population. What I usually do is either to stick a few Québec teams (usually Gaspé and Sherbrooke) in the "Maritime Division" and bring a few Ontario teams (Cornwall, Ottawa) in the "Québec Division", or try to get a few Maritimes teams (usually Halifax, St. John's and Moncton) in Québec and sticking Gatineau and Rouyn-Noranda in the Ontario Division, while putting a few Ontario teams in the West. It's complicated that the only "perfect" province is in the middle. It's also a problem that Québec and Ontario form 75% of the Canadian population altogether, and it's hard to stick the Maritimes and the West in the same division .

[kq76]

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

I always have trouble when I set up a Canadian league. I usually try to have 4 divisions, but it's kinda hard to play around since Québec is the only province with roughly a quarter of the population. What I usually do is either to stick a few Québec teams (usually Gaspé and Sherbrooke) in the "Maritime Division" and bring a few Ontario teams (Cornwall, Ottawa) in the "Québec Division", or try to get a few Maritimes teams (usually Halifax, St. John's and Moncton) in Québec and sticking Gatineau and Rouyn-Noranda in the Ontario Division, while putting a few Ontario teams in the West. It's complicated that the only "perfect" province is in the middle. It's also a problem that Québec and Ontario form 75% of the Canadian population altogether, and it's hard to stick the Maritimes and the West in the same division .

I always wanted to make a 3 conference (sub-league) league like the CHL with Ontario in the middle.

A small west coast league is easier to follow though.