Wow, some blister!

OldFatGuy · 05-17-2008, 08:32 PM

Man, I've had some pretty severe blisters in my time, but this is something.

Cryomaniac · 05-17-2008, 08:35 PM

lol. There should be news texts based on injury severity really. Also, I've noticed that hitters (or more accurately, fielders, since I think it's a throwing injury) sometimes get blisters. It should be a day-to-day at worst for hitters.

Real-life example of the difference. Clay Bucholz going on the DL for a broken nail. It's painful, but no-one other than a pitcher would be DL'ed with it.

blackrussian · 05-17-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

lol. There should be news texts based on injury severity really. Also, I've noticed that hitters (or more accurately, fielders, since I think it's a throwing injury) sometimes get blisters. It should be a day-to-day at worst for hitters.

i think its one of the conditions i was bugging the text team to add (or rather, markus add it for the text team to use). i deleted that particular story from my .txt file cause its kind of ridiculous to read that someone was helped off the field b/c of a blister or a stiff neck. a simple condition like INJURY_LENGTH_MAX and _MIN could go a long way to help sharpen the injury stories.

Kelric · 05-17-2008, 09:02 PM

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Real-life example of the difference. Clay Bucholz going on the DL for a broken nail. It's painful, but no-one other than a pitcher would be DL'ed with it.

They didn't really put him on the DL because he couldn't pitch. He could. They just didn't want him unconsciously altering his delivery because of the nail problem, so they DL'ed him. Plus, of course, it's a sneaky way to help keep his innings for the year down. You don't really want him throwing more than 180 or so if you can help it. Maybe even 160.

Cryomaniac · 05-17-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelric

They didn't really put him on the DL because he couldn't pitch. He could. They just didn't want him unconsciously altering his delivery because of the nail problem, so they DL'ed him. Plus, of course, it's a sneaky way to help keep his innings for the year down. You don't really want him throwing more than 180 or so if you can help it. Maybe even 160.

Do you think they would have put a hitter on the DL in the same situation so he didn't change his swing?

conception · 05-17-2008, 11:11 PM

Josh Beckett has had quite a few blister problems in his career.

OldFatGuy · 05-17-2008, 11:14 PM

I hope he didn't have to be helped off the field.

blackrussian · 05-17-2008, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Do you think they would have put a hitter on the DL in the same situation so he didn't change his swing?

how many hitters have you heard of having blister issues? there are many situations in which minors injuries can disrupt a pitcher's mechanics leading to poor performance or subsequent injuries.

Kelric · 05-18-2008, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Do you think they would have put a hitter on the DL in the same situation so he didn't change his swing?

No, they wouldn't have. They may have given him a handful of games off, or more likely just taped him up and sent him back out there.

That is why I don't think it's actually because of the blister. It's potential mechanical issues and an inning limiter that swung the thinking to the DL.

Left-handed Badger · 05-18-2008, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by blackrussian

i think its one of the conditions i was bugging the text team to add (or rather, markus add it for the text team to use). i deleted that particular story from my .txt file cause its kind of ridiculous to read that someone was helped off the field b/c of a blister or a stiff neck. a simple condition like INJURY_LENGTH_MAX and _MIN could go a long way to help sharpen the injury stories.

Actually, I could understand someone being helped off the field with a stiff neck. I got a crick in my neck from sleeping crooked a few years ago. When my neck got aligned a certain way when I tried to get up......OUCH!! I was laying there like a turtle on his back for a couple of minutes.

Cryomaniac · 05-18-2008, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelric

No, they wouldn't have. They may have given him a handful of games off, or more likely just taped him up and sent him back out there.

That is why I don't think it's actually because of the blister. It's potential mechanical issues and an inning limiter that swung the thinking to the DL.

The upshot of this discussion is that pitchers still often miss more time for hand injuries than hitters, so it could be handled better by OOTP.

Kelric · 05-18-2008, 11:05 AM

Pitchers in general in OOTP should have more one or two start injuries. Guys seem to either miss several months or make all 33 starts for several seasons in a row. I don't see a pitching staff where one guy has 29 starts, another 31, one at 24, etc., with random spot starts for other guys. It doesn't happen as much as it should in the game.

Markus Heinsohn · 05-19-2008, 02:40 PM

Come on, I think this is pretty funny

Bobbuttons · 05-19-2008, 02:44 PM

Let's not judge this guy having to get helped off the field until you've walked a mile with his blister.

blackrussian · 05-19-2008, 02:51 PM

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Let's not judge this guy having to get helped off the field until you've walked a mile with his blister.

yeah, especially if he was walking on his hands the whole time

Who Killed Kenny? · 05-19-2008, 03:13 PM

He should try peeing on them. It worked with Moises Alou.

Bobbuttons · 05-19-2008, 03:52 PM

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yeah, especially if he was walking on his hands the whole time

Exactly!

Syd Thrift · 05-19-2008, 11:30 PM

It doesn't say which finger got the blister. Until we know this, I agree with Bobbuttons.

DiMaggio5CF · 05-19-2008, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelric

They didn't really put him on the DL because he couldn't pitch. He could. They just didn't want him unconsciously altering his delivery because of the nail problem, so they DL'ed him. Plus, of course, it's a sneaky way to help keep his innings for the year down. You don't really want him throwing more than 180 or so if you can help it. Maybe even 160.

I don't think a ballplayer is in good shape if he's UNconsciously doing anything.

Syd Thrift · 05-20-2008, 01:07 AM

I submit to you... Dock Ellis.

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