Please, Oh Please, Fix This. - Page 4

Markus Heinsohn · 05-20-2008, 05:06 PM

Yes, I mean the dat files in your screenshot, not the entire folder

OldFatGuy · 05-20-2008, 05:35 PM

Done, I think. I just got Comcast Hi-Speed Internet and am still struggling with their email, so I hope the file was attached properly.

Who Killed Kenny? · 05-20-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

Done, I think. I just got Comcast Hi-Speed Internet and am still struggling with their email, so I hope the file was attached properly.

Welcome to the Information Age! I know that getting Internet is a big deal for you. I recall a post of yours a while back that said you weren't really in an area that got Internet and that you went to the Library to get online (at least I think that was you). Now you'll be able to post or read the forums all day!

OldFatGuy · 05-20-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Who Killed Kenny?

Welcome to the Information Age! I know that getting Internet is a big deal for you. I recall a post of yours a while back that said you weren't really in an area that got Internet and that you went to the Library to get online (at least I think that was you). Now you'll be able to post or read the forums all day!

Yep, that was me. Verizon kept insisting high speed was unavailable in my area (rural area, wester Loudoun County, VA), and Cable and DirectWay were costing more than I was willing to pay. SO, all I've ever had was AOL and Netzero dial-up. Finally, Comcast had a special "Double Play" offer for two of their services for $66 a month, so I got their digital phone service and hi-speed internet. (I'm happy with DirecTV service, best quality picture I've ever seen, AND MLB EXTRA INNINGS

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Markus Heinsohn · 05-20-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

Done, I think. I just got Comcast Hi-Speed Internet and am still struggling with their email, so I hope the file was attached properly.

Got it, thanks!

I will take a look tomorrow... it's late over here

dashby · 05-21-2008, 12:38 AM

Great gesture by Markus to follow up on this one. And that, my friends, is the magic that is OOTP.

What a wonderful, and enlightening thread culminated in a perfect conclusion.
OFG offered up a heartfelt philsophy on the AI level of baseball sims in general. This he tied neatly into a bug he noted with the OOTP product. overly optimistic proponents came out and decreed, "you must be wrong because this game is perfect". The naysayers came out and took some shots of their own about the state of the AI.
Markus reads the criticism and feels a little angst about the critique. After several back-and-forths he takes time out of the final leg of OOTP 9 release to address the issue at hand. My respect for Markus and his product just climbed a couple notches on the developer-o-meter.

As a developer myself (I'm currently converting an aged DMV Drivers License Issuance Application written in Cobol to an Adobe Flex SOA solution) who is smack in the middle of UAT I know how draining/irritating/stifling/you-name-the-emotion it is when folks are bashing on your creation and livelihood. Even when it is something as innocently stated as OFG mentioning his AI anomaly, it can feel like a figurative slap in the face to the creator. However, Markus felt the challenge, defused the situation, and won the respect of a fellow developer (for what that is worth). Kudos!
I still agree with OFG that MLB sim AI nirvana has not yet been realized but, I'm hedging my bets that if anyone can eventually get us there it will be Markus.

Markus Heinsohn · 05-21-2008, 05:31 AM

OK, I have checked the league file, and the game is working properly. First, you do not have any minor leagues, just a reserve roster, so the choices for the AI are limited. In the case of Baltimore, the only other guy who could make to rotation other than the newly drafted Juan Sanchez is Chuck McFadden, and he has even worse ratings at 5/1/1, compared to Sanchez' 5/1/3 (I turned scouting off)...

If you had minor leagues and plenty more players for then AI to choose from, then this would never had happened. But in this case, the AI did it perfectly right

Markus Heinsohn · 05-21-2008, 05:51 AM

However, the league has plenty of nice free agents available that should be signed... will look inot it

Markus Heinsohn · 05-21-2008, 06:41 AM

OK, there was a slight problem that only occured with your special league config... OOTP 9 will handle that properly

chimanbj · 05-21-2008, 01:52 PM

Right there...this is why this is the best game on the market.

How many times can you send a message to the developer of the game you purchased, stating a problem that you're seeing, and have the developer address your question personally??? I have owned many different games throughout the years and have never even come close to getting the service I get, and have seen others get, for free.

I really think there is no better sports simulation product on the market, period. Forget graphics. That's what video consoles are for. Stick to the important things, and this product will continue to rule!

Cryomaniac · 05-21-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chimanbj

Right there...this is why this is the best game on the market.

How many times can you send a message to the developer of the game you purchased, stating a problem that you're seeing, and have the developer address your question personally??? I have owned many different games throughout the years and have never even come close to getting the service I get, and have seen others get, for free.

I really think there is no better sports simulation product on the market, period. Forget graphics. That's what video consoles are for. Stick to the important things, and this product will continue to rule!

Exactly, that's why this game is good. Not only is it a damn good game, but the support is better than anything else, ever.

Markus Heinsohn · 05-21-2008, 07:48 PM

Thanks for the compliment guys, but there are some other developers like me out there who listen & reply to feedback, like Gary Gorski, Shaun Sullivan, Arlie Rahn, among others. Basically most small software company do this, and very very few big ones too, like SI

05-21-2008, 01:52 PM	#70 (permalink)
chimanbj All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 705	Right there...this is why this is the best game on the market. How many times can you send a message to the developer of the game you purchased, stating a problem that you're seeing, and have the developer address your question personally??? I have owned many different games throughout the years and have never even come close to getting the service I get, and have seen others get, for free. I really think there is no better sports simulation product on the market, period. Forget graphics. That's what video consoles are for. Stick to the important things, and this product will continue to rule! __________________ People ask if I'm a Cubs or White Sox fan...I tell them, proudly, I'm a Phillies Phan!

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05-20-2008, 05:06 PM	#61 (permalink)
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Heinbockel, Germany Posts: 9,448	Yes, I mean the dat files in your screenshot, not the entire folder

05-20-2008, 05:35 PM	#62 (permalink)
OldFatGuy All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern Va., Loudoun County Posts: 739	Done, I think. I just got Comcast Hi-Speed Internet and am still struggling with their email, so I hope the file was attached properly.

05-21-2008, 12:38 AM	#66 (permalink)
dashby Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 130	Great gesture by Markus to follow up on this one. And that, my friends, is the magic that is OOTP. What a wonderful, and enlightening thread culminated in a perfect conclusion. OFG offered up a heartfelt philsophy on the AI level of baseball sims in general. This he tied neatly into a bug he noted with the OOTP product. overly optimistic proponents came out and decreed, "you must be wrong because this game is perfect". The naysayers came out and took some shots of their own about the state of the AI. Markus reads the criticism and feels a little angst about the critique. After several back-and-forths he takes time out of the final leg of OOTP 9 release to address the issue at hand. My respect for Markus and his product just climbed a couple notches on the developer-o-meter. As a developer myself (I'm currently converting an aged DMV Drivers License Issuance Application written in Cobol to an Adobe Flex SOA solution) who is smack in the middle of UAT I know how draining/irritating/stifling/you-name-the-emotion it is when folks are bashing on your creation and livelihood. Even when it is something as innocently stated as OFG mentioning his AI anomaly, it can feel like a figurative slap in the face to the creator. However, Markus felt the challenge, defused the situation, and won the respect of a fellow developer (for what that is worth). Kudos! I still agree with OFG that MLB sim AI nirvana has not yet been realized but, I'm hedging my bets that if anyone can eventually get us there it will be Markus.

05-21-2008, 05:31 AM	#67 (permalink)
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Heinbockel, Germany Posts: 9,448	OK, I have checked the league file, and the game is working properly. First, you do not have any minor leagues, just a reserve roster, so the choices for the AI are limited. In the case of Baltimore, the only other guy who could make to rotation other than the newly drafted Juan Sanchez is Chuck McFadden, and he has even worse ratings at 5/1/1, compared to Sanchez' 5/1/3 (I turned scouting off)... If you had minor leagues and plenty more players for then AI to choose from, then this would never had happened. But in this case, the AI did it perfectly right

05-21-2008, 05:51 AM	#68 (permalink)
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Heinbockel, Germany Posts: 9,448	However, the league has plenty of nice free agents available that should be signed... will look inot it

05-21-2008, 06:41 AM	#69 (permalink)
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Heinbockel, Germany Posts: 9,448	OK, there was a slight problem that only occured with your special league config... OOTP 9 will handle that properly

05-21-2008, 07:48 PM	#72 (permalink)
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Heinbockel, Germany Posts: 9,448	Thanks for the compliment guys, but there are some other developers like me out there who listen & reply to feedback, like Gary Gorski, Shaun Sullivan, Arlie Rahn, among others. Basically most small software company do this, and very very few big ones too, like SI