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Old 06-06-2008, 09:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Who should have the win?

Top of the 15th, tie game, my reliever (Hale) gets the third out but is injured during the play.

The game forces me to replace him between innings before I can bat. His slot is scheduled to bat fourth, so I elect to do a double switch, so that my new pitcher (Hood) won't bat in the bottom of the 15th. (I didn't just put a pinch hitter in, because he may not have had a chance to bat if it's a 1-2-3 inning.)

So.....the third batter hits a walk off homer to win the game. When I check the box score, Hood gets the win, although he didn't even throw a pitch?

Is that correct? Seems to me Hale should have the win.
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Old 06-06-2008, 10:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hale should have gotten the win since he was the pitcher of record. I'd imagine that since the game made you substitute for him before your turn at bat came in the 15th, that made Hale the pitcher of record.

Looks like a bug to me. The game shouldn't make you replace an injured player until you actually have to replace him.
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Top of the 15th, tie game, my reliever (Hale) gets the third out but is injured during the play.

The game forces me to replace him between innings before I can bat. His slot is scheduled to bat fourth, so I elect to do a double switch, so that my new pitcher (Hood) won't bat in the bottom of the 15th. (I didn't just put a pinch hitter in, because he may not have had a chance to bat if it's a 1-2-3 inning.)

So.....the third batter hits a walk off homer to win the game. When I check the box score, Hood gets the win, although he didn't even throw a pitch?

Is that correct? Seems to me Hale should have the win.

This is a bug and should be addressed. You should never have to replace an injured player until said player must bat, run or play the field. Hale should have gotten the win and there should have not been a forced lineup change.
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Should I post this in the technical/troubleshooting forum, or can this thread be identified and then moved....?
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You should copy your first post into the troubleshooting section of the forum. Thank you for asking.
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Well, once you insert a pitcher he is officially announced, hence the pitcher of record in this case. So, no bug.
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Well, once you insert a pitcher he is officially announced, hence the pitcher of record in this case. So, no bug.
Sorry to disagree with you here but the pitcher who was credited with the win should never have been announced as the pitcher. The bug is really in the fact the hurt pitcher should not have been replaced until he had to bat, pitch or play the field.

Also I believe that in order for a pitcher to be credited with a win he must be credited with at least 0.1 IP.
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Sorry to disagree with you here but the pitcher who was credited with the win should never have been announced as the pitcher. The bug is really in the fact the hurt pitcher should not have been replaced until he had to bat, pitch or play the field.

Also I believe that in order for a pitcher to be credited with a win he must be credited with at least 0.1 IP.
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Rule 10.17(b) Comment: It is the intent of Rule 10.17(b) that a relief pitcher pitch at least one complete inning or pitch when a crucial out is made, within the context of the game (including the score), in order to be credited as the winning pitcher. If the first relief pitcher pitches effectively, the official scorer should not presumptively credit that pitcher with the win, because the rule requires that the win be credited to the pitcher who was the most effective, and a subsequent relief pitcher may have been most effective. The official scorer, in determining which relief pitcher was the most effective, should consider the number of runs, earned runs and base runners given up by each relief pitcher and the context of the game at the time of each relief pitcher’s appearance. If two or more relief pitchers were similarly effective, the official scorer should give the presumption to the earlier pitcher as the winning pitcher.
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It's a design decision, and too difficult to be fixed.
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