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Old 06-07-2008, 03:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Superstar Free Agents Going Unsigned?!

I just got this game and am loving it.

However, I am in the off season and I seem to be the only one going after the top free agents.

For example, Adam Dunn has been sitting in FA since December (it is now spring training). Is there some sort of patch I can download for this? Or any solution at all? I think of this as a HUGE gamebreaker.

I want to love this game. Please help!
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Old 06-07-2008, 04:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I agree Superstar free-agents shouldn't go unsigned.

But, Adam Dunn a superstar?

Sure he hits 40 homers every year, but he also hits .240 and strikes out 150+ times a year.

He is the kind of player I would never sign.

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Old 06-07-2008, 04:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Haha, granted, Adam Dunn is no superstar. I just see some players with 4-5 stars not getting signed and I think you'd agree that's unrealistic.

I find it hard to believe that no team would sign Adam Dunn.

Is there a solution to this?
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Old 06-07-2008, 04:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I agree high rated players should not go unsigned. I am sure someone will site Barry Bonds this year, but I believe he is not being pursued because teams have determined (rightly so IMO) that he isn't worth all the extra hassle anymore. It was one thing to put up with all of his extra BS when he was a perennial MVP candidate, now that he is only moderately better, not so much.

I have not seen this happen in most of my leagues, but I think a lot of it depends on the roster set you are using.

do teams have money available?

Is Dunn (or the others) better than the AI teams other options? You have obviously determined he is not worth it for your team, when you look at the other teams, if you were there owner would you be offering him?
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Old 06-07-2008, 04:57 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Are you really trying to justify the game not having a single team interested in signing a young guy who hits 40 homers a year?
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:01 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm using CubbyFan's roster set if that makes any difference.
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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ive had this problem before where, as Giants44 mentioned, teams did not have the money to sign the player according to his demands. players (or rather the AI guiding their contract demands) are not smart enough to adjust to the market so to speak, but we see that in real life anyway (scott boras' clients

it may be a combination of many teams being in the red, your league financial structure, players greed, players demands, etc. if these is happening a lot in your league i would look at these factors first. im not familar w/cubbyfan's set in terms of how the finances play out, perhaps someone else can be more specific regarding this set.
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he'll sign after spring training when teams won't hit his demands. He'll ask for a one year deal and some team will afford that. I agree that Adam Dunn is a good player, but I'd feel iffy about handing a player like him a long term deal.
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Are you really trying to justify the game not having a single team interested in signing a young guy who hits 40 homers a year?
nope, that is not what I said. In fact my direct quote is "I agree high rated players should not go unsigned."

I was suggesting some potential reasons to check out. If for example Dunn's demands are 5M year and no team has 5M to spend then yes he would go unsigned. theoretically that could happen in real life as well.

What I did say and do believe is that just hitting 40 homers doesn't make you a valuable quality. 240 hitters with 40 homers and close to 200 k's. don't impress me, If it weren't for his ability to walk almost 100 times a year, I would think Dunn was a complete bum. Even with the walks he is not the kind of guy I would sign.

IMO, HR's are overrated and the ability to avoid making outs is underrated.
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he'll sign after spring training when teams won't hit his demands. He'll ask for a one year deal and some team will afford that. I agree that Adam Dunn is a good player, but I'd feel iffy about handing a player like him a long term deal.
Not necessarily.

We had to dump the OOTP FA system in my online league, because players were asking for incredible amounts that no one would offer them. Even average middle relievers were asking for 3.5mil a year, when I think only one or two reliever in the league made more than that. Adjusting the salary scale in the league editor didn't do much - and when it did, players were asking for ridiculously low extensions. So, no matter how we looked at it, it was out of whack. Some players retired, unsigned and still good. Nowadays, we hold our own home-made FA bidding war on our message board, because it was ridiculous.
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I wouldnt say I would never sign Adam Dunn. But, it would be a short term contract and not too expensive. And all 40 HR hitters ask for a steep price. So, probably not.

ANyhow, I think you should have the players adjust their demands as it gets later on into winter/spring training. But, this is usually a problem in ALL sports games. Practically all players are gonna sign for SOMETHING rather than stay unemployed.
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Not necessarily.

We had to dump the OOTP FA system in my online league, because players were asking for incredible amounts that no one would offer them. Even average middle relievers were asking for 3.5mil a year, when I think only one or two reliever in the league made more than that. Adjusting the salary scale in the league editor didn't do much - and when it did, players were asking for ridiculously low extensions. So, no matter how we looked at it, it was out of whack. Some players retired, unsigned and still good. Nowadays, we hold our own home-made FA bidding war on our message board, because it was ridiculous.
it was whacked cause teams had lots of free spending cash, the amount of free cash whacks the whole league. So the teams hoarding spending room is causing inflation in the asking prices. Might no be your case scenario, but I've seen that limiting the cash hoarding, really effect the asking prices.
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it was whacked cause teams had lots of free spending cash, the amount of free cash whacks the whole league. So the teams hoarding spending room is causing inflation in the asking prices. Might no be your case scenario, but I've seen that limiting the cash hoarding, really effect the asking prices.
Well, that's what I thought, too, until I took off all the cash away from everyone in a test league and didn't see any changes in asking prices.

I' had the problem before, but I fixed it. It was a problem with independent leagues. But it came back, and there were no indy leagues to fix.
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how far did you go in a test league? one season, two or more?
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how far did you go in a test league? one season, two or more?
I don't remember, but it shouldn't matter.
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I agree, but if all the players get their demands based on amount of free money at a certain time, the next time it rolls around it'd fix itself...
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