What should Markus Work On?

[Giants44]

It seems to be like I see a lot of posts lately regarding things that are “broken.” Stuff like waivers, or options or other minor details of the game.

To me OOTP is a game, close enough on the minor details is good enough for me and some time I turn these things off all together. I don’t want to get bogged down in minor financial details. I want to sign FA’s, draft players and watch them develop, make a few trades and play my games out. If I need to waive a guy and it is for 10 days instead of 56 hours or whatever the rule is I really could care less. To me the default OOTP settings ARE the rules, I really don’t care about those minor things that affect the last 5 players on my roster, I want to worry about the top guys on my roster and enjoy the game.

But I am not by any means suggesting that MY way is the right way. I am far too old for that type of self centered thinking. I am posting this poll to see where the community stands as a whole on this.

Do we want Markus to spend his time adding things like animations and other new features or do we want him to spend his time fixing every detail.

Note: also I think Markus is well within his right to ignore the community either way and simply do what he sees fit, this isn’t a Markus direction poll, more a finger in the wind to see which way the wind is blowing.

[Bears5122]

I'd like him to make it more playable for those who want something similar to a real baseball setup. I know a lot of people love having 50 leagues in 30 countries, etc, but a lot of us just want to go back to the days where we could run a normal MLB league.

[Giants44]

All I ever play is MLB. I have not once played any other setup.

What is missing in a regular MLB setup for you?

[Bears5122]

Originally Posted by Giants44

All I ever play is MLB. I have not once played any other setup.

What is missing in a regular MLB setup for you?

The rosters never seemed to work right. Duplicate players, game erasing players having to tweak the modifiers a lot to get semi-realistic results, etc. Throw in the AI for free agent signing, roster management, and a slew of others is far behind where 6.5 was at and it just wasn't worth it. Most of the roster problems have been discussed ad naseum in the Mods forum.

[StyxNCa]

Fix it so if we make a mistake while in the lineup screen during the game we can undo it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jg2977]

I would like to have sub-leagues with an odd number of teams in it. For example, the current MLB setup of 14 teams in one league and 16 teams in another league is stupid. This creates the problem of having one division with four teams and another with six teams. This is very unfair. I've always wanted to take Houston out of the NL Central and move them to the AL West. This would make both leagues have 15 teams. With this setup, you would have to have at least one interleague series every week, but there is really no problem with that, IMO.

[professor ape]

Markus should focus on one thing, and one thing only...His health.

I want OOTP to be the "perfect" game as much as anyone else on these boards. I have screamed for playoffs with byes and relegation formats, even better pitching models and on and on and on.

Overall I think that we are a reasonable bunch on the boards and I know that our comments and suggestions have been key in driving the development of the game. However, I think that we all need to take a step back and look at the way we write out posts asking Markus for new features. We frequently fall into the trap of sounding like a bunch of four year olds begging endlessly for every toy in the store. I know that some of my posts verge on whining.

Markus has made a remarkable game and trying to please all of us all of the time must be a daunting and exhausting task. The new features for OOTP9 are fantastic and continue the exciting progess of the game. THANKS MARKUS!!!

Now about those byes and pitching models.......

[DaddyO]

I would rather see Markus err on the side of making whatever features he adds rock solid rather than add tons of features that don't quite work right. If that's what you mean by "details," then that's what I want. Your post made it sound like you might mean something else however, something like: details = all the details in the game the player has to take care of. If THAT's what you mean, I'm like you in wanting to simplify my experience to some degree and not get bogged down. However, since that is mostly optional, it's not a big deal. Let those who love that stuff dive in.

[edm]

Originally Posted by Bears5122

The rosters never seemed to work right. Duplicate players, game erasing players having to tweak the modifiers a lot to get semi-realistic results, etc. Throw in the AI for free agent signing, roster management, and a slew of others is far behind where 6.5 was at and it just wasn't worth it. Most of the roster problems have been discussed ad naseum in the Mods forum.

To be fair, this post isn't exactly what you mentioned in your original comment. To get back to your original comment, I'm not a fan of all the leagues and all the countries either. I've even gone so far to replace all the flags with blank images. To me, flags belong in a soccer game, not a baseball game, but that's another topic. As Giants mentioned, if all you want to do is run a simple MLB league with one, two, or three minor leagues, what's stopping you? The game can be customized just how you want.

As far as your last post, maybe I'm just not looking hard enough, but I'm playing a MLB league with 3 minor leagues and stats seem fine to me. I've also never noticed any duplicate players. Yes, free agency AI and roster management aren't perfect, but it's getting better. And when your dealing with AI, I don't know if it ever can be perfect.

[HolyCow98]

To be honest, the first thing I thought of was his health.

As far as the game goes, catching as many bugs as the beta team can catch and eliminating them and wrapping it up any loose ends as far as the new features and tweaks are added for this version.

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[CBLCardinals]

Originally Posted by Bears5122

The rosters never seemed to work right. Duplicate players, game erasing players having to tweak the modifiers a lot to get semi-realistic results, etc. Throw in the AI for free agent signing, roster management, and a slew of others is far behind where 6.5 was at and it just wasn't worth it. Most of the roster problems have been discussed ad naseum in the Mods forum.

I posted in another thread the same information, but it appears no one is reading it now.

Try my CBL MLB 2008 Spring Training Roster. I've not had any major issues with it, at least ones you've mentioned a few times now.

Coming Soon: CBL 2008 Spring Training Roster Set 1.0

[edm]

Originally Posted by DaddyO

I would rather see Markus err on the side of making whatever features he adds rock solid rather than add tons of features that don't quite work right. If that's what you mean by "details," then that's what I want. Your post made it sound like you might mean something else however, something like: details = all the details in the game the player has to take care of. If THAT's what you mean, I'm like you in wanting to simplify my experience to some degree and not get bogged down. However, since that is mostly optional, it's not a big deal. Let those who love that stuff dive in.

Originally Posted by CBLCardinals

I posted in another thread the same information, but it appears no one is reading it now.

Try my CBL MLB 2008 Spring Training Roster. I've not had any major issues with it, at least ones you've mentioned a few times now.

Coming Soon: CBL 2008 Spring Training Roster Set 1.0

maybe that's why I havent seen these issues. those are the rosters I'm using.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by StyxNCa

Fix it so if we make a mistake while in the lineup screen during the game we can undo it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by jg2977

I would like to have sub-leagues with an odd number of teams in it.

You can do that now. The only thing is, you have to set this up manually yourself, the game cannot do it automatically because the schedule generator cannot create schedules for leagues with an odd number of teams.

To set it up yourself, do the following:

1) Create your league, but with one additional team in each subleague above your desired number (e.g. create 16-team subleagues if your final target is 15-team subleagues).

2) Generate the schedule for your league.

3) Edit your league structure to eliminate the unwanted teams to bring each subleague down to the total you want.

4) Go into the schedule editor and delete the existing schedule.

5) Import a schedule file that matches your new league alignment.


As to having a properly matching schedule file, that'll be up to you. That means creating it yourself, or you can try and find an existing schedule file in the Mods forum that matches your alignment.

[Fibonacci]

Considering what Markus has already done, I don't know what he should work on... But he's probably been working on steroids.

[kq76]

I think doing what he seems to be doing, both at the same time, is best. You only add new stuff and you're going to piss off your core customers because you didn't fix/improve stuff that they want improved. You don't add new stuff and a lot of people are going to bitch that they're just being asked to pay for a patch and so it will be difficult to get new sales.

Rest is a different issue. If he needs rest then fine, we can wait longer.

[Ruthian23]

I think he should work on whatever he feels needs work. If he's perfectly happy with how the features that are already in the game are working, then maybe he could add some more, but if he thinks they still need some work, he should obviously work on that. He's a lot closer to the situation than us, obviously, and I trust that he knows what to do.

[Giants44]

I don't think I expressed my options very well.

By no means was I suggesting that option 2 was simply to add stuff whether they worked or not. Non-working features, are worse than worthless.

What I was trying to express was minor details that "work" even if they don't exactly match the real life rules.

as far as AI, no game will ever get that perfect, human beings are just too unpredictable. I do think improving AI should be a constant project.