Making a better historical game in 2008

Raidergoo · 08-11-2007, 03:36 PM

Well, guys, what can the guys do to move the historical sim experience forward?

OOTP 2007 is light-years ahead of 2006, and I think there is a desire to leave 2007 in the dust in terms of fun, accuracy, and new functionality for the historical set.

What can be done to make this happen?

I have less than a dozen suggestions for historical play so far. Let's pipe up, OK?

BruceM · 08-11-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Well, guys, what can the guys do to move the historical sim experience forward?

OOTP 2007 is light-years ahead of 2006, and I think there is a desire to leave 2007 in the dust in terms of fun, accuracy, and new functionality for the historical set.

What can be done to make this happen?

I have less than a dozen suggestions for historical play so far. Let's pipe up, OK?

What's wrong with it now? IMO nothing.

swampdragon · 08-11-2007, 10:35 PM

1. The ability to use recalc back to 1872.
2. A CM that isn't quite so eager to use players out of position.
3. "Historical usage" as a CM management option.

I may have more later. The first two are my big ones.

swampdragon · 08-11-2007, 10:38 PM

One more: Accurate modeling of pre-free agency econmics.

Raidergoo · 08-11-2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by swampdragon

One more: Accurate modeling of pre-free agency econmics.

Gotta put them in the suggestion forum...

rwd59 · 08-12-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by swampdragon

One more: Accurate modeling of pre-free agency econmics.

Amen.

Garlon · 08-12-2007, 04:09 PM

There are still plenty of things that need major improvements in historicals.

1. Pitcher GB% rating
2. League SB ratios and SB%
3. League Double Play ratios
4. League OF Assists ratios
5. The modeling of player ratings when they move out of recalc (when their historical stats run out) and the default development takes over)
6. Fielding ratings
7. Player import ratings in the non-recalc mode
8. Pitcher Endurance ratings
9. The AI's overvaluing of pitchers in the rookie drafts
10. Player Speed/Stealing ratings

timlowery · 09-26-2007, 11:42 AM

Go back to 1871 for the settings import when you use the wizard to create historical leagues. Currently it only goes to 1901.

swampdragon · 01-03-2008, 11:56 AM

Garlon's suggestions in that thread are outstanding. Other than 19th century support, they would be my highest priority.

ashantewarrier · 01-09-2008, 11:51 AM

An accurate model of independent minors (pre-affiliated) with an option to turn off reserve rosters

Garlon · 03-03-2008, 05:18 PM

This is one of the items Markus posted in this thread

"- Even more improved historical league support, resulting in pretty much perfect results"

swampdragon · 03-09-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Garlon

This is one of the items Markus posted in this thread

"- Even more improved historical league support, resulting in pretty much perfect results"

Whatever that means.

Scoman · 03-10-2008, 01:37 PM

Hopefully the AI drafting logic will be better.

Kelric · 03-10-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoman

Hopefully the AI drafting logic will be better.

Yes, please. If nothing but that gets fixed for historical leagues, I'll be happy. Especially for the deadball era.

08-11-2007, 03:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 39.84 N -84.12 W Posts: 7,062	Making a better historical game in 2008 Well, guys, what can the guys do to move the historical sim experience forward? OOTP 2007 is light-years ahead of 2006, and I think there is a desire to leave 2007 in the dust in terms of fun, accuracy, and new functionality for the historical set. What can be done to make this happen? I have less than a dozen suggestions for historical play so far. Let's pipe up, OK? __________________

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swampdragon All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 1,703	1. The ability to use recalc back to 1872. 2. A CM that isn't quite so eager to use players out of position. 3. "Historical usage" as a CM management option. I may have more later. The first two are my big ones. __________________ "The only way to oblige men to speak well of us is to act well." -- Voltaire

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swampdragon All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 1,703	One more: Accurate modeling of pre-free agency econmics. __________________ "The only way to oblige men to speak well of us is to act well." -- Voltaire

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Garlon All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,095	There are still plenty of things that need major improvements in historicals. 1. Pitcher GB% rating 2. League SB ratios and SB% 3. League Double Play ratios 4. League OF Assists ratios 5. The modeling of player ratings when they move out of recalc (when their historical stats run out) and the default development takes over) 6. Fielding ratings 7. Player import ratings in the non-recalc mode 8. Pitcher Endurance ratings 9. The AI's overvaluing of pitchers in the rookie drafts 10. Player Speed/Stealing ratings __________________ Arod23Garlon2006DB available HERE 1871 Quickstart file available HERE

09-26-2007, 11:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
timlowery Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Quinton, VA Posts: 218	Go back to 1871 for the settings import when you use the wizard to create historical leagues. Currently it only goes to 1901. __________________ Timothy Lowery Proud Detroit Tigers fan since 1979!!! It's not one thing after another, it's the same thing all the time....

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swampdragon All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 1,703	Garlon's suggestions in that thread are outstanding. Other than 19th century support, they would be my highest priority. __________________ "The only way to oblige men to speak well of us is to act well." -- Voltaire

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03-03-2008, 05:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
Garlon All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,095	This is one of the items Markus posted in this thread "- Even more improved historical league support, resulting in pretty much perfect results" __________________ Arod23Garlon2006DB available HERE 1871 Quickstart file available HERE

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