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Old 04-05-2008, 04:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Switching from Baseball Mogul?

Is this similar? I really only play with historical years, do these play just as well/better?
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Old 04-05-2008, 12:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I can't compare it to Baseball Mogul, but I can say that OOTP historical leagues are great fun. You can try to keep them pretty close to what actually happened (using the recalc options, which will keep player stats as close as possible to their real life stats) or diverge off into complete fiction with historical players and teams.
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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OOTP is much better than Baseball Mogul. I used to be a mogul player, but I never touched it again after I found OOTP.
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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everything about ootp is better.
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Old 04-05-2008, 03:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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With Baseball Mogul though, its dumbly easy to start a historical leauge, you just scoll to the year on the start screen. I played around with ootp the other night and couldnt seem to figure out how to do. can you guys tell me??
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Old 04-05-2008, 06:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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With Baseball Mogul though, its dumbly easy to start a historical leauge, you just scoll to the year on the start screen. I played around with ootp the other night and couldnt seem to figure out how to do. can you guys tell me??
First you have to download the Lahman Database from

Home - baseball1.com

Then when you choose to Create Historical League on the game menu, just set the path to wherever you have the Database saved on your computer.
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Old 04-05-2008, 09:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I enjoy Baseball Mogul, but it a "lite" baseball game, in every sense.

It IS fun to sim 10 years in 20 minutes, just reviewing the leaderboards after each year.

The statistics the game engine generates are not...accurate, with plenty of statistical outliers. I have Tris Speaker at 4900 hits, for example, and there are many posted examples of players with 1000 home runs.

Having said that, how many homers will A-Rod end up with? If he averages 45 a year until he is 40, that should also place him near 1000....

OOTP is a better SIMULATION, if that is what you are after.
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Old 04-06-2008, 01:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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First you have to download the Lahman Database from

Home - baseball1.com

Then when you choose to Create Historical League on the game menu, just set the path to wherever you have the Database saved on your computer.
Though if you have OOTP8 instead of OOTP 2007, the Lahman Database should come with the game. I don't know how that all works as I have OOTP'07, but someone here does...
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Though if you have OOTP8 instead of OOTP 2007, the Lahman Database should come with the game. I don't know how that all works as I have OOTP'07, but someone here does...
yeah this is what im talking about..
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I quit buying Baseball Mogul when they started to introduce animals as players.

Anyone remember this?
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 04-08-2008, 05:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Mogul is a good "gateway drug" to baseball sims. You feel very smart and powerful because you can usually win the world series within a year or two.

But then you crave something with a bit more of an edge, more danger to it, and consequently, a better high, so you switch to OOTP which actually makes you play close to real baseball rules with waivers, DLs, etc. Then once you've graduated to the harder stuff, Mogul just doesn't have the same appeal.

My two cents....
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Mogul is a good "gateway drug" to baseball sims. You feel very smart and powerful because you can usually win the world series within a year or two.

But then you crave something with a bit more of an edge, more danger to it, and consequently, a better high, so you switch to OOTP which actually makes you play close to real baseball rules with waivers, DLs, etc. Then once you've graduated to the harder stuff, Mogul just doesn't have the same appeal.

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Yup.

I played the heck out of Mogul... '98 I think it was. I even had everyone at my office playing it. But then I found OOTP2 and I've never looked back.

I try Mogul every other year or so just for nostalgia sake, but over a decade into the franchise, and their sim engine still stinks, and there is still no position player fatigue. Pretty inexcusable.
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yup.

I played the heck out of Mogul... '98 I think it was. I even had everyone at my office playing it. But then I found OOTP2 and I've never looked back.

I try Mogul every other year or so just for nostalgia sake, but over a decade into the franchise, and their sim engine still stinks, and there is still no position player fatigue. Pretty inexcusable.
I also use to play Mogul and have never gone back.
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