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View Poll Results: Who were the best two RF ever? (2 votes max!)
Herman Campbell 0 0%
Simon Chartier 1 6.25%
Engelbert Hoefling 12 75.00%
Jeffrey Mangrum 0 0%
Frank Moore 14 87.50%
Tanis Schaefer 0 0%
Ali Wiedeking 3 18.75%
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Old 11-22-2008, 03:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Beta Baseball Hall of Fame: Right Fielders

So, in 2029, Beta Baseball, the online league I've been leading since 2002, is currently holding its 25th anniversary festivities. This includes the launch of our Hall of Fame - 25 years is enough to warrant a decent Hall of Fame, I figured. Since we're a small league, I thought it would be a good idea to seek public votes and get a larger sample size and post here (although we're holding this poll for our owners on our own board as well). The way we are going to do it is we're going to hold a vote to select our all-time team (2 players from each position plus 7 pitchers for a total of 25 men), and the retired ones will be our initial Hall of Fame inductees. After talking to a moderator, and rejecting his proposal of holding 9 polls at once in 9 different threads, I thought I'd do it gradually, over the whole season. This week we're finishing the position players, with right fielders. Poll will close in one week, top 2 will be selected.

Note that players should be evaluated purely on their current accomplishments, not on what they might do in the future. We're electing a Hall of Fame, not a Hall of Future Fame . Also, you are allowed to vote for a maximum of TWO guys. No more than that, or I'll have to cancel your votes, and I don't want to do that .



Herman Campbell (2009-2022, 1440 H, 161 HR, .278/.331/.462)
This man had a very strange career path, being a mediocre player for the first few years of his career before emerging as one of the game's top players. Still, for a few years, few were better in right field.

Simon Chartier (2005-2013, 1175 H, 210 HR, .268/.349/.448)
The early superstar who arrived too late and aged too fast.

Engelbert Hoefling (2006-2020, 2227 H, 386 HR, .292/.393/.495)
2014 AL MVP, 3-time Gold Glove. Important cog of the 2010's Pierrefonds dynasty, Hoefling holds just about every career record for a right fielder. Well, ok, that has a lot to do with Wiedeking being young and Gardiner splitting his time with 1B, but still, we have here one of the best players of his time.

Jeffrey Mangrum (2021-current, 1146 H, 68 HR, .325/.376/.455)
He's still young, but that batting average is the 6th best ever.

Frank Moore (2011-2024, 1998 H, 399 HR, .294/.372/.539)
2-time MVP, 2011 AL Rookie of the Year, 2-time Gold Glove. Despite his not-that-long career, he managed to put up some really impressive numbers, even if he wasn't too keen on milestones.

Tanis Schaefer (2016-current, 1965 H, 243 HR, .289/.376/.454)
8-time Gold Glove. Still active (though he's lost his starting job), Tanis Schaefer is the face of the Czars, with which he's spent his entire career. Stellar both at the plate and at right field.

Ali Wiedeking (2023-current, 1258 H, 106 HR, .340/.465/.486)
2-time AL MVP, 2023 AL Rookie of the Year, 1-time Gold Glove. He has a shot at being the best on this list once he retires. His numbers aren't that bad... especially considering he's just 26! He's been slowed down by nagging injuries that will probably plague him for most of his career, but he's every GM's dream. Tied for second ever in BA, and far ahead of everyone (2nd place is Alexandre Carrière with .420) on OBP. He just beat the single-season record for OBP, with .514.
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I never realized this through the whole process, but Pierrefonds won 10 straight division titles, and 9 of them league championships???? Wow.

And more impressive, the 124-32 record in 2013.....which was BELOW the Pyth Record. That's incredible.
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I never realized this through the whole process, but Pierrefonds won 10 straight division titles, and 9 of them league championships???? Wow.

And more impressive, the 124-32 record in 2013.....which was BELOW the Pyth Record. That's incredible.
Yeah... until 2 years ago, we had rules that discouraged team from spending money, and if you're stuck in a division with that team, well, honestly, are you going to spend anything at all? The same thing happened in the other division, with the Gladiators taking 10 division titles in 13 years.

In any case, yeah, it was a pretty insane dynasty. The same team is currently on a pretty good streak as well, as the Liberté and the New Skojpp Czars have faced each other 4 times in the past 5 years in our Alpha series. The difference is that nowadays, other teams totally have the means to compete with them, and the rules encourage them to do so. However, they're both being chased by some improving teams, so there will definitely be some competition pretty soon.
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Moore 1; Hoefling 2; Schaefler 3. As witness my rating of Schaefler, I am not one of those 'won't vote for a current player' posters, but in my opinion Chartier, Mangrum and Wiedeking just don't have enough years in.

And speaking of just realizing something, it just hit me how many of your Fall of Fame candidates have German surnames. What name group does your league use?
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Moore 1; Hoefling 2; Schaefler 3. As witness my rating of Schaefler, I am not one of those 'won't vote for a current player' posters, but in my opinion Chartier, Mangrum and Wiedeking just don't have enough years in.

And speaking of just realizing something, it just hit me how many of your Fall of Fame candidates have German surnames. What name group does your league use?

Custom. We have two countries, one of which is English, and the other is a mix of French/German/Dutch.
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