Set in Stone... MLB Players Stay with Original Franchises - Page 6

tward13 · 12-18-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt from TN

The one thing I keep noticing is how incredibly deep Pittsburgh is. They just keep getting top-notch players every year.

But they won only one more real life pennant between where you are now and 1925. Must have been some bad trades you're saving them from.

Matt from TN · 12-20-2005, 01:56 PM

1907 National League

Code:

Team                        W   L   %  GB
St. Louis Cardinals        90  64 .584 -
Cincinnati Reds            86  68 .558 4
Chicago Cubs               86  68 .558 4
New York Giants            82  72 .532 8
Pittsburgh Pirates         77  77 .500 13
Philadelphia Phillies      71  83 .461 19
Boston Doves               66  88 .429 24
Brooklyn Superbas          58  96 .377 32

League AVG: .249
League ERA: 2.85

St. Louis Cardinals

After finishing so close for the past six seasons, the Cardinals finally won their first pennant since winning six over eight years from 1886-1893 as the Detroit Wolverines and Cleveland Spiders. 3B Bobby Wallace won the batting title, and LF Mike Donlin finished 2nd in the batting race but was named Top Batter. Pitcher Ed Karger was named Top Rookie.

Lineup:
C Ed McFarland - .193, 41 RBI
1B Duff Cooley - .256, 49 RBI, 21 SB
2B Bill Keister - .279, 86 RBI, 45 SB
3B Bobby Wallace - .330, 70 RBI
SS John McGraw - .300, 23 RBI, 33 SB
LF Mike Donlin - .316, 78 RBI, 28 SB
CF Homer Smoot - .285, 69 RBI
RF Emmet Heidrick - .322, 62 RBI, 29 SB

Key Bench:
1B Ed Konetchy - .317, 34 RBI (R)
LF George Barclay - .268, 16 RBI

Pitchers:
Joe Corbett - 26-12, 2.62
Mordecai Brown - 19-19, 2.92
Ed Karger - 26-13, 2.47 (R)
Bob Wicker - 11-7, 2.88

Cincinnati Reds

With their 86-68 record, the Reds completed a fantastic turnaround from the worst season in franchise history in 1906 (59-95, .383). This year they won 27 more games than the year before. Their 86 wins is a franchise record, and their .558 winning percentage is the franchise's best since 1880... 27 years ago. The turnaround is primarily due to offense as the Reds led the NL with a .274 team average and 4.3 runs per game.

Lineup:
C Larry McLean - .280, 54 RB (R)
1B Kip Selbach - .282, 57 RBI, 20 SB
2B Miller Huggins - .257, 52 RBI, 21 SB
3B Hans Lobert - .251, 72 RBI, 45 SB
SS Al Bridwell - .226, 47 RBI
LF Topsy Hartsel - .306, 54 RBI, 52 SB
CF Jimmy Barrett - .258, 39 RBI, 27 SB
RF Sam Crawford - .310, 82 RBI

Key Bench:
RF Mike Mitchell - .258, 23 RBI (R)
SS Ambrose McGann - .245, 23 RBI, 19 SB
C Jocko Halligan - .278, 27 RBI
1B Fred Odwell - .263, 15 RBI

Pitchers:
Orval Overall - 24-15, 2.16
Roy Hitt - 18-19, 3.55 (R)
Charley Hall - 19-11, 2.55
Carl Druhot - 10-10, 4.59

Chicago Cubs

Lineup:
C Frank Chance - .243, 42 RBI, 45 SB
1B Bill Everitt - .288, 29 RBI, 26 SB
2B Johnny Evers - .263, 30 RBI, 33 SB
3B Bill Bradley - .295, 56 RBI
SS Joe Tinker - .290, 63 RBI, 21 SB
LF Zaza Harvey - .300, 64 RBI
RF Frank Schulte - .271, 64 RBI
RF Danny Green - .310, 49 RBI

Key Bench:
2B Germany Schaefer - .307, 44 RBI, 16 SB
C Johnny Kling - .321, 36 RBI

Pitchers:
Ed Reulbach - 24-16, 1.98
Tom Hughes - 18-21, 2.92
Carl Lundgren - 19-17, 3.07
Fred Glade - 12-6, 3.10

New York Giants

Lineup:
C Pat Crisham - .278, 36 RBI
1B Tom McCreery - .306, 57 RBI, 31 SB
2B Jiggs Parrott - .250, 59 RBI, 34 SB
3B Art Devlin - .234, 39 RBI, 53 SB
SS Charlie Babb - .169, 40 RBI
LF Moose McCormick - .263, 48 RBI
CF Curt Bernard - .236, 31 RBI
RF Willie Keeler - .250, 37 RBI, 45 SB

Pitchers:
Red Ames - 21-17, 1.83
Hooks Wiltes - 24-13, 2.34
George Ferguson - 17-15, 2.63
Christy Mathewson - 8-14, 2.58

Pittsburgh Pirates

Lineup:
C Ed Phelps - .214, 28 RBI
1B Del Howard - .321, 41 RBI
2B Jimmy Williams - .235, 62 RBI
3B Jesse Hoffmeister - .257, 52 RBI, 27 SB
SS Honus Wagner - .301, 74 RBI, 56 SB
LF Fred Clarke - .246, 39 RBI, 51 SB
CF Ginger Beaumont - .270, 58 RBI
RF Otis Clymer - .294, 49 RBI, 26 SB

Key Bench:
C George Gibson - .238, 27 RBI
1B Kitty Bransfield - .253, 16 RBI

Pitchers:
Jack Pfiester - 18-20, 2.66
Howie Camnitz - 18-12, 2.50 (R)
Lefty Leifield - 9-16, 3.15
Cy Falkenberg - 15-7, 2.23
Rube Waddell - 9-17, 3.75

Philadelphia Phillies

Lineup:
C Mike Grady - .228, 34 RBI
1B Nap Lajoie - .298, 81 RBI
2B Joe Ward - .150, 30 RBI
3B Ernie Courtney - .281, 37 RBI
SS Mickey Doolan - .267, 58 RBI
LF George Browne - .277, 30 RBI
CF Elmer Flick - .270, 51 RBI, 25 SB
RF John Titus - .288, 51 RBI

Key Bench:
LF Sherry Magee - .308, 33 RBI
3B Nixey Callahan - .250, 16 RBI

Pitchers:
Doc White - 25-15, 2.28
Tully Sparks - 18-21, 3.18
Happy Townsend - 8-16, 3.53
Fred Burchell - 10-13, 2.85
Johnny Lush - 4-9, 4.07

Boston Doves

Lineup:
C Tom Needham - .207, 11 HR, 64 RBI
1B Fred Tenney - .322, 24 RBI
2B Bill Lauterborn - .193, 40 RBI
3B Jimmy Collins - .210, 21 RBI
SS Ed Abbaticchio - .225, 35 RBI
LF Jim Delahanty - .286, 60 RBI
CF Johnny Bates - .244, 56 RBI
RF Chick Stahl - .270, 51 RBI

Key Bench:
3B Ed Gremminger - .250, 10 RBI

Pitchers:
Irv Young - 16-21, 2.49
Jake Boultes - 21-20, 2.59 (R)
Vic Willis - 16-22, 3.13
Sam Frock - 8-10, 3.24 (R)
Bill Dinneen - 3-8, 4.51

Brooklyn Superbas

Lineup:
C Lew Ritter - .157, 32 RBI
1B Doc Gessler - .279, 68 RBI, 26 SB
2B Erve Beck - .243, 45
3B Emil Batch - .195, 39 RBI
SS Phil Lewis - .234, 41 RBI
LF Jimmy Sheckard - .283, 40 RBI
CF Fielder Jones - .295, 41 RBI, 32 SB
RF Harry Lumley - .251, 69 RBI

Pitchers:
Nap Rucker - 13-25, 2.86 (R)
George Bell - 16-22, 3.30 (R)
Harry McIntire - 15-12, 2.55
Doc McJames - 7-14, 3.51
Harry Howell - 4-9, 4.47

Batting AVG
.330 Bobby Wallace, STL
.316 Mike Donlin, STL
.310 Sam Crawford, CIN
.306 Topsy Hartsell, CIN
.306 Tom McCreery, NYG
.301 Honus Wagner, PIT

HOMERUNS
11 Tom Needham, BSN
8 Hans Lobert, CIN

RBI
86 Bill Keister, STL
82 Sam Crawford, CIN
81 Nap Lajoie, PHI
78 Mike Donlin, STL
74 Honus Wagner, PIT

OPS
.786 Topsy Hartsell, CIN
.772 Sam Crawford, CIN
.769 Honus Wagner, PIT
.763 Bobby Wallace, STL
.762 Mike Donlin, STL

STEALS
56 Honus Wagner, PIT (56-14, 80.00%)
53 Art Devlin, NYG (53-18, 74.65%)
52 Topsy Hartsell, CIN (52-16, 76.47%)
51 Fred Clarke, PIT (51-7, 87.93%)

ERA
1.83 Red ames, NYG (21-17)
1.98 Ed Reulbach, CHC (24-16)
2.16 Orval Overall, CIN (24-15)
2.23 Cy Falkenberg, PIT (15-7)
2.28 Doc White, PHI (25-15)

WINS
26 Ed Karger, STL (26-13, 2.47)
26 Joe Corbett, STL (26-12, 2.62)
25 Doc White, PHI
24 Orval Overall, CIN
24 Hooks Wiltse, NYG (24-13, 2.34)
24 Ed Reulbach, CHC
21 Red Ames, NYG
21 Jake Boultes, BSN (21-20, 2.59)

STRIKEOUTS
309 Ed Reulbach, CHC
308 Joe Corbett, STL
285 Nap Rucker, BRO
284 Orval Overall, CIN
268 Tom Hughes, CHC

POY: Ed Reulbach, CHC, 24, 24-16, 1.98 ERA, 78 BB, 309 K, .210 OAVG, 0.97 WHIP
BOY: LF Mike Donlin, STL, 29, .316, 78 RBI, 28 SB, .762 OPS
ROY: Ed Karger, STL, 24, 26-13, 2.47, 55 BB, 214 K, .262 OAVG, 1.16 WHIP

Gold Gloves:
Pitcher: Happy Townsend, PHI
Catcher: Ed Phelps, PIT
First Base: Nap Lajoie, PHI
Second Base: Bill Lauterborn, BSN
Third Base: Bobby Wallace, STL
Shortstop: Joe Tinker, CHC
Leftfield: Topsy Hartsel, CIN
Centerfield: Fielder Jones, BRO
Rightfield: Chick Stahl, BSN

Matt from TN · 12-20-2005, 04:17 PM

1907 American League

Code:

Team                        W   L   %  GB
Boston Red Sox             93  61 .604 -
Cleveland Bronchos         85  69 .552 8
New York Highlanders       79  75 .513 14
Chicago White Sox          78  76 .506 15
Philadelphia Athletics     74  80 .481 19
Washington Senators        73  81 .474 20
Detroit Tigers             70  84 .455 23
St. Louis Browns           64  90 .416 29

League AVG: .235
League ERA: 2.57

Boston Red Sox

Thanks to the highest scoring offense in the league and a pitching staff that allowed the 2nd fewest runs in the AL (with a 2.16 team ERA), the newly named Red Sox won their third straight pennant.

C Ossee Schreckengost - .279, 71 RBI
1B Jake Stahl - .258, 9 HR, 99 RBI, 32 SB
2B Hobe Ferris - .228, 42 RBI
3B Harry Gleason - .221, 30 RBI
SS Freddy Parent - .246, 60 RBI
LF Patsy Dougherty - .324, 35 RBI, 45 SB
CF Charlie Hemphill - .280, 39 RBI, 30 SB
RF George Stone - .314, 66 RBI, 25 SB

Key Bench:
1B Pearce Chiles - .348, 13 RBI

Pitchers:
Norwood Gibson - 22-14, 1.84
Ralph Glaze - 20-18, 2.07
Joe Harris - 16-10, 2.53
Frank Oberlin - 16-7, 1.49
Tex Pruiett - 9-5, 3.77 (R)

Cleveland Bronchos

Lineup:
C Peaches Graham - .273, 38 RBI
1B Claude Rossman - .310, 60 RBI
2B Sam Mertes - .245, 50 RBI, 58 SB
3B Eddie Grant - .198, 48 RBI (R)
SS Terry Turner - .279, 44 RBI
LF John Kelty - .207, 33 RBI
CF Rube Vinson - .204, 60 RBI
RF Bill Hinchman - .216, 43 RBI (R)

Key Bench:
1B George Stovall - .297, 19 RBI
CF Joe Birmingham - .274, 15 RBI

Pitchers:
Charlie Smith - 21-16, 2.09
Glenn Liebhardt - 21-16, 2.01 (R)
Heinie Berger - 25-10, 2.04 (R)
Otto Hess - 11-9, 2.37

New York Highlanders

Lineup:
C Roger Bresnahan - .292, 41 RBI, 32 SB
1B Hal Chase - .304, 74 RBI, 26 SB
2B Gene DeMontreville - .317, 63 RBI, 32 SB
3B Jimmy Mathison - .197, 33 RBI
SS Whitey Rohe - .219, 50 RBI
LF Billy Lush - .305, 53 RBI
CF Cy Seymour - .305, 58 RBI
RF Frank LaPorte - .233, 70 RBI RBI

Key Bench:
1B Burt Hart - .272, 20 RBI, 12 SB

Pitchers:
Bill Hogg - 22-14, 2.03
Walter Clarkson - 19-10, 2.57
Ambrose Puttmann - 10-22, 2.97
Joe Doyle - 15-14, 2.90 (R)

Chicago White Sox

Lineup:
C Hub Hart - .173, 37 RBI (R)
1B Harry Davis - .254, 40 RBI, 34 SB
2B Art Madison - .206, 48 RBI
3B Pep Clark - .255, 42 RBI
SS Dave Brain - .256, 53 RBI
LF George Flynn - .241, 27 RBI, 53 SB
CF Mike Welday - .203, 39 RBI (R)
RF John Shearon - .191, 34 RBI (R)

Top Bench:
CF Jack McAleese - .297, 14 RBI

Pitchers:
Frank Smith - 22-17, 1.91
Ed Walsh - 19-19, 2.15
Elmer Stricklett - 12-23, 2.81
Nick Altrock - 10-9, 3.07
John Skopec - 9-5, 3.58

Philadelphia Athletics

Lineup:
C John Warner - .220, 38 RBI
1B Dan McGann - .242, 34 RBI, 41 SB
2B Danny Murphy - .243, 41 RBI
3B Jack Hannifin - .134, 34 RBI
SS Harry Lochhead - .215, 30 RBI
LF Bris Lord - .233, 66 RBI RBI
CF Danny Hoffman - .222, 26 RBI, 27 SB
RF Matty McIntyre - .288, 54 RBI

Top Bench:
CF Dave Fultz - .359, 20 RBI, 46 SB in 256 AB
SS John Knight - .248, 15 RBI

Pitchers:
Chief Bender - 20-15, 1.88
Weldon Henley - 16-18, 1.95
Eddie Plank - 20-16, 3.02
Jimmy Dygert - 5-11, 2.53
Jack Coombs - 4-10, 3.28

Washington Senators

Lineup:
C Lew Drill - .222, 47 RBI
1B John Farrell - .265, 56 RBI, 22 RBI
2B Rabbit Robinson - .233, 51 RBI
3B Bill Coughlin - .175, 47 RBI
SS Dave Altizer - .257, 39 RBI, 30 SB
LF Jimmy Slagle - .274, 29 RBI, 61 SB
CF Emil Frisk - .243, 52 RBI
RF Izzy Hoffman - .178, 47 RBI

Pitchers:
Walter Johnson - 20-19, 2.39 (R)
Henry Gehring - 13-24, 3.05 (R)
Oscar Graham - 21-13, 2.08 (R)
Davey Dunkle - 9-13, 3.15

Detroit Tigers

Lineup:
C Fred Payne - .176, 38 RBI
1B Charlie Carr - .318, 89 RBI
2B Harry Arndt - .175, 31 RBI
3B Charlie Dexter - .210, 30 RBI
SS Kid Elberfeld - .276, 50 RBI, 27 SB
LF Ty Cobb - .326, 61 RBI, 62 SB
CF Roy Thomas - .348, 37 RBI, 21 SB
RF Davey Crockett - .294, 68 RBI

Key Bench:
RF Tuck Turner - .251, 17 RBI

Pitchers:
George Mullin - 17-20, 2.06
Bugs Raymond - 15-15, 2.34 (R)
Ed Killian - 12-15, 3.36
Ed Siever - 11-13, 4.04
Frank Owen - 7-13, 3.92

St. Louis Browns

Lineup:
C Billy Maloney - .224, 50 RBI, 22 SB
1B Branch Rickey - .217, 36 RBI (R)
2B Harry Niles - .217, 35 RBI, 28 SB
3B Bill Friel - .233, 29 RBI
SS Roy Hartzell - .260, 56 RBI
LF Tom O'Brien - .218, 37 RBI
CF Davy Jones - .279, 36 RBI, 28 SB
RF Irv Waldron - .332, 46 RBI

Top Bench:
CF Bill Hallman - .240, 5 RBI
2B Ike Rockendield - .333, 13 RBI

Pitchers:
Barney Pelty - 18-18, 2.38
Cy Morgan - 16-24, 3.52
Ed Smith - 16-23, 3.19
Harry Ables - 7-12, 3.27

Batting AVG
.348 Roy Thomas, DET
.332 Irv Waldron, SLB
.326 Ty Cobb, DET
.324 Patsy Dougherty, BOS

HOMERUNS
9 Sam Mertes, CLE
9 Jake Stahl, BOS

RBI
99 Jake Stahl, BOS
89 Charlie Carr, DET
74 Hal Chase, NYY
71 Ossee Schreckengost, BOS
70 Frank LaPorte, NYY

OPS
.821 Roy Thomas, DET
.756 George Stone, BOS
.753 Ty Cobb, DET

STEALS
62 Ty Cobb, DET (62-17, 78.48%)
61 Jimmy Slagel, WSH (61-17, 77.92%)
58 Sam Mertes, CLE (58-22, 72.50%)
53 George Flynn, CHW (53-45, 54.08%)
46 Dave Fultz, PHA (46-15, 75.41%)

ERA
1.49 Frank Oberlin, BOS
1.84 Norwood Gibson, BOS
1.88 Chief bender, PHA
1.91 Frank Smith, CHW
1.95 Weldon Henley, PHA

WINS
25 Heinie Berger, CLE
22 Frank Smith, CHW
22 Bill Hogg, NYY
22 Norwood Gibson, BOS

STRIKEOUTS
296 Ed Walsh, CHW
286 Frank Smith, CHW
277 Bill Hogg, NYY
269 Charlie Smith, CLE
263 Chief Bender, PHA

POY: Norwood Gibson, BOS, 30, 22-14, 1.84 ERA, 78 BB, 239 K, .200 OAVG, 0.94 WHIP
BOY: RF George Stone, BOS, 30, .314, 66 RBI, 25 SB, .756 OPS
ROY: Heinie Berger, CLE, 25, 25-10, 2.04 ERA, 79 BB, 239 K, .217 OAVG, 1.03 WHIP

Gold Gloves:
Pitcher: Eddie Plank, PHA
Catcher: Hub Hart, CHW
First Base: Hal Chase, NYY
Second Base: Harry Niles, SLB
Third Base: Jack Hannifin, PHA
Shortstop: Roy Hartzell, SLB
Leftfield: John Kelty, CLE
Centerfield: Rube Vinson, CLE
Rightfield: Izzy Hoffman, WSH

Vris · 12-20-2005, 09:10 PM

Can you say, "pitching heavy"?

metsgeek · 12-20-2005, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vris

Can you say, "pitching heavy"?

It ain't called the deadball era for nothing.

Matt from TN · 12-21-2005, 11:15 AM

1907 World Series

BOX SCORES

Catobase Updated!

After losing the past two World Series, the Red Sox hoped to do things differently this autumn. Meanwhile, the Cardinals were playing in their first World Series. In Game 1, The Cardinals took a 1-0 lead in the first and the score remained 1-0 until the top of the 9th. In that inning, Boston got four straight singles off Mordecai Brown with 1 out. That gave them a 3-1 lead, and Norwood Gibson shut down St. Louis 1-2-3 in the bottom of the 9th to give the Red Sox the first win of the series.

In Game 2, the Cardinals scored 5 runs off Frank Oberlin. The Red Sox made it 5-3 in the 4th but St. Louis went on to add 9 more runs and win 14-6. Game 3 was a different story. Boston scored 2 runs off Ed Karger in the 1st, but the Cardinals scored in the 4th to make it 2-1. A Freddy Parent double increased Boston's lead to 3-1. St. Louis did not have another baserunner the rest of the day as Ralph Glaze and Boston took a 2-1 series lead.

In Game 4, Mordecai Brown tossed a 9-hit shutout and the Cardinals tagged Norwood Gibson for 7 runs, evening the series. Everyone knew Game 5 was a big key to the series, and the game was scoreless until Boston scored a run in the bottom of the 5th. The Red Sox added a run in the 6th and two more in the 7th. But in the top of the 8th, Frank Oberlin hit the leadoff man. Then John McGraw singled, and both runners advanced a base on an error by RF George Stone. After getting the next two batters out, Oberlin allowed a 2-run single to Emmet Heidrick. Bill Keister followed with another single, and Bobby Wallce hit a 2-run double to tie the game.

Mike Donlin hit a 1-out triple in the top of the 10th off reliever Rube Kroh. He scored two batters later on a sac fly. Down 5-4 in the bottom of the 10th, Boston's Jake Stahl led off with a single off Bob Wicker. Catcher Ossee Schreckengost doubled and Stahl held at 3rd. Freddy Parent stroked a double to deef right field, scoring both runners and winning the game.

In Game 6 Boston scored 2 runs in the 3rd, and by the time the Cardinals reached their final at bat in the 9th, they found themselves down 3-1. Bill Keister reached base on an error to lead off the inning, and Bobby Wallace singled him to 3rd. 1B Ed Konetchy's fly out was too shallow to score the runner, but Al Burch got a pinch hit single that drove Keister in. George Barclay grounded out, and with the tying run on 3rd, John McGraw grounded out to end the series.

Winner, 4-2: Boston Red Sox, 1st Championship

tward13 · 12-21-2005, 11:34 AM

MAtt, did you miss the Senators in the preseaon write-ups? I'd commented on the weak rookie class, but they have Walter Johnson (plus others)

Matt from TN · 12-21-2005, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tward13

MAtt, did you miss the Senators in the preseaon write-ups? I'd commented on the weak rookie class, but they have Walter Johnson (plus others)

Crap I did... and my all-time favorite old time pitcher too

Henry Gehring & Oscar Graham were secondary rookie pitchers who I probably wouldn't have mentioned.

Washington 1907

P Walter Johnson, "The Big Train"
--- Age 19, 10 (117)/8/7 ratings

tward13 · 12-21-2005, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt from TN

Crap I did... and my all-time favorite old time pitcher too

Henry Gehring & Oscar Graham were secondary rookie pitchers who I probably wouldn't have mentioned.

Washington 1907

P Walter Johnson, "The Big Train"
--- Age 19, 10 (117)/8/7 ratings

Thanks, it'll be fun watching the Big Train dominating for a long time.

Matt from TN · 12-22-2005, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tward13

Thanks, it'll be fun watching the Big Train dominating for a long time.

My only fear is what his winning % will be like paying for the sorry Senators.

tward13 · 12-22-2005, 12:48 AM

Maybe the Senators fortunes change in this version?

Although, look what's happened to Mathewson

Matt from TN · 12-22-2005, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tward13

Although, look what's happened to Mathewson

I've been doing something a little different with how pitchers are imported. I wish I had started before Mathewson was imported. I've never ran a replay with either Young or Mathewson having great careers.

Matt from TN · 12-22-2005, 03:38 PM

Key Incoming Rookies for 1908:

NATIONAL LEAGUE

Boston

2B Bill Sweeney
--- Age 22, 8/9/6/7/6 talents

Cincinnati

CF Dode Paskert
--- Age 26, 7/9/7/8/3 talents

New York

P Doc Crandall
--- Age 20, 10 (104)/8/5 talents

2B Larry Doyle, "Laughing Larry"
--- Age 21, 8/9/9/6/7 talents

Philadelphia

P George McQuillan
--- Age 23, 10 (98)/7/5 talent

P Bill Foxen
--- Age 23, 10 (96)/4/3 talent

Pittsburgh

1B Jim Kane, "Shamus"
--- Age 26, 6/5/5/6/6 talent

RF Chief Wilson
--- Age 24, 7/8/9/3/4 talent

St. Louis

P Slim Sallee, "Scatter"
--- Age 23, 6/8/8 talent

CF Al Shaw
--- Age 27, 6/7/6/8/6 talent

AMERICAN LEAGUE

Boston

P Frank Arellanes
--- Age 26, 10 (96)/8/3 talent

C Bill Carrigan, "Rough"
--- Age 24, 8/7/6/5/6 talent

2B Amby McConnell
--- Age 25, 8/5/6/6/6 talent

3B Harry Lord
--- Age 26, 9/6/6/3/6 talent

RF Gavvy Cravath, "Cactus Gavvy"
--- Age 27, 8/10/10/9/5 talent

Detroit

P Eddie Cicotte, "Knuckles"
--- Age 23, 10 (114)/8/6 talent

P Jack Rowan
--- Age 20, 10 (113)/5/3 talent

P Ed Summers, "Kickapoo Ed"
--- Age 23, 10 (96)/8/3 talent

P Ed Willett
--- Age 24, 9/7/6 talent

New York

P Joe Lake
--- Age 27, 10 (101)/7/3

SS Neal Ball
--- Age 27, 6/7/6/4/6 talent

Philadelphia

P Biff Schlitzer
--- Age 23, 10 (115)/4/3 talent

2B Eddie Collins, "Cocky"
--- Age 21, 10/8/7/9/7 talent

SS Jack Barry
--- Age 21, 5/7/5/6/7 talent

St. Louis

P/1B Dode Criss
--- Age 23, 6/9/5/6/6 and 9/1/3 talents

Washington

P Bill Burns, "Sleepy Bill"
--- Age 28, 10 (90)/9/3 talent

1B Jerry Freeman
--- Age 28, 6/6/5/5/6 talent

CF Clyde Milan
--- Age 21, 8/6/5/6/8 talent
--- If any team has ever needed some offensive talent, it was this one.

tward13 · 12-22-2005, 04:51 PM

ok, that's more like it.

Eddie Collins the HoF 2B and Barry his MI partner in the $100,000 infield.

Cravath was the active HR leader until some guy named Ruth blew by him.

Neal Ball who had the first unassisted triple play (20th century)

Chief Wilson who has the single season triples record (36)

Matt from TN · 12-22-2005, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tward13

Cravath was the active HR leader until some guy named Ruth blew by him.

He has a *ton* of power (14) but I'm having trouble getting him in the lineup ahead of Patsy Dougherty or George Stone. None of those 3 play CF. I'll check BB-Ref.com to see if any of them ever played there and then maybe I'll displace CF Charlie Hemphill.

Matt from TN · 12-22-2005, 05:04 PM

1908 National League

Code:

Team                        W   L   %  GB
St. Louis Cardinals        90  64 .584 -
Chicago Cubs               83  71 .539 7
Pittsburgh Pirates         83  71 .539 7
Cincinnati Reds            82  72 .532 8
Boston Doves               74  80 .481 16
New York Giants            70  84 .455 20
Philadelphia Phillies      70  84 .455 20
Brooklyn Superbas          64  90 .416 26

League AVG: .246
League ERA: 2.77

St. Louis Cardinals

The Cardinals followed up their first pennant in St. Louis with another one this season. In September the race with Chicago was tight. The Cubs tied St. Louis for first early in the final month thanks to a 1-5 stretch the Cardinals struggled through. After that, St. Louis went on a 10-1 run and the Cubs never got closer than 3-games out again.

Lineup:
C Art Hoelskoetter - .169, 28 RBI (R)
1B Ed Konetchy - .251, 47 RBI
2B Bill Keister - .280, 52 RBI, 32 SB
3B Bobby Wallace - .278, 72 RBI
SS John McGraw - .296, 42 RBI, 21 SB
LF Mike Donlin - .315, 69 RBI, 29 SB
CF Homer Smoot - .258, 57 RBI
RF Emmet Heidrick - .344, 36 RBI, 44 SB

Key Bench:
SS Lee DeMontreville - .246, 23 RBI
3B Bobby Byrne - .287, 27 RBI
LF George Barclay - .294, 15 RBI

Pitchers:
Joe Corbett - 19-18, 3.27
Mordecai Brown - 15-18, 2.46
Ed Karger - 23-9, 1.53
Irv Higginbotham - 16-10, 2.59 (R)

Chicago Cubs

Lineup:
C Frank Chance - .238, 52 RBI, 30 SB
1B Bill Everitt - .344, 41 RBI, 30 SB
2B Johnny Evers - .257, 34 RBI, 37 SB
3B Bill Bradley - .254, 58 RBI
SS Joe Tinker - .255, 51 RBI
LF Zaza Harvey - .291, 52 RBI
CF Danny Green - .310, 31 RBI
RF Frank Schulte - .267, 62 RBI

Key Bench:
C Johnny Kling - .244, 31 RBI
CF Harry McChesney - .223, 26 RBI
3B George Moriarty - .231, 14 RBI

Pitchers:
Ed Reulbach - 19-20, 2.82
Carl Lundgren - 20-15, 2.61
Tom Hughes - 24-16, 2.73
Fred Glade - 10-4, 3.50

Pittsburgh Pirates

Lineup:
C Ed Phelps - .251, 44 RBI
1B Del Howard - .272, 59 RBI
2B Jimmy Williams - .248, 51 RBI
3B Jesse Hoffmeister - .249, 40 RBI
SS Honus Wagner - .257, 49 RBI, 46 SB
LF Ginger Beaumont - .259, 32 RBI
CF Solly Hofman - .231, 42 RBI
RF Otis Clymer - .281, 68 RBI, 24 SB

Key Bench:
2B Otto Knabe - .223, 15 RBI
1B Kitty Bransfield - .300, 14 RBI

Pitchers:
Jack Pfiester - 23-12, 1.78
Howie Camnitz - 15-19, 2.29
Cy Falkenberg - 16-17, 2.91
Lefty Leifield - 16-13, 2.36

Cincinnati Reds

Lineup:
C Larry McLean - .281, 80 RBI
1B Kip Selbach - .234, 49 RBI, 20 SB
2B Miller Huggins - .254, 38 RBI, 20 SB
3B Hans Lobert - .249, 64 RBI, 45 SB
SS Al Bridwell - .241, 51 RBI
LF Topsy Hartsel - .271, 30 RBI, 33 SB
CF Jimmy Barrett - .308, 25 RBI, 27 SB
RF Sam Crawford - .275, 90 RBI

Key Bench:
LF Mike Mitchell - .268, 10 RBI
CF Dode Paskert - .248, 17 RBI

Pitchers:
Orval Overall - 22-16, 2.59
Charley Hall - 15-20, 2.74
Bob Ewing - 20-11, 2.70
Carl Druhot - 10-10, 1.95

Boston Doves

Lineup:
C Tom Needham - .176, 46 RBI
1B Fred Tenney - .313, 37 RBI
2B Bill Sweeney - .225, 48 RBI, 31 SB (R)
3B Ed Gremminger - .256, 30 RBI
SS Ed Abbaticchio - .246, 40 RBI, 23 SB
LF Jim Delahanty - .243, 60 RBI
CF Johnny Bates - .290, 37 RBI, 29 SB
RF Chick Stahl - .300, 39 RBI

Key Bench:
1B Charlie Hickman - .247, 18 RBI
RF Charlie Frisbee - .233, 15 RBI

Pitchers:
Irv Young - 17-19, 1.75
Jake Boultes - 20-15, 2.58
Sam Frock - 20-18, 3.08
Vic Willis - 8-8, 3.37

New York Giants

Lineup:
C Pat Crisham - .313, 77 RBI
1B Tom McCreery - .306, 56 RBI, 32 SB
2B Larry Doyle - .312, 76 RBI, 37 SB (R)
3B Art Devlin - .243, 40 RBI, 73 SB
SS Joe Bean - .149, 39 RBI
LF Moose McCormick - .283, 79 RBI
CF Curt Bernard - .284, 27 RBI
RF Jack Hendricks - .261, 57 RBI

Pitchers:
Hooks Wiltes - 20-17, 2.74
Red Ames - 19-17, 2.05
Doc Crandall - 14-24, 3.38 (R)
Christy Mathewson - 7-11, 3.23

Philadelphia Phillies

Lineup:
C Fred Jacklitsch - .233, 34 RBI
1B Sherry Magee - .244, 73 RBI
2B Nap Lajoie - .303, 71 RBI
3B Nixey Callahan - .271, 46 RBI
SS Mickey Doolan - .222, 58 RBI
LF George Browne - .261, 39 RBI
CF Elmer Flick - .236 ,62 RBI
RF John Titus - .287, 40 RBI

Key Bench:
C Frank Roth - .234, 18 RBI

Pitchers:
Doc White - 15-22, 2.96
Tully Sparks - 17-17, 2.53
George McQuillan - 19-15, 2.71 (R)
Fred Burchell - 8-8, 3.20

Brooklyn Superbas

Lineup:
C Lew Ritter - .173, 41 RBI
1B Doc Gessler - .288, 60 RBI, 27 SB
2B Erve Beck - .267, 51 RBI
3B Dutch Jordan - .188, 27 RBI
SS Phil Lewis - .210, 38 RBI
LF Jimmy Sheckard - .262, 36 RBI, 23 SB
CF Fielder Jones - .264, 28 RBI, 33 SB
RF Harry Lumley - .243, 49 RBI

Top Bench:
SS Tommy McMillan - .243, 14 RBI
2B Whitey Alperman - .233, 14 RBI

Pitchers:
Nap Rucker - 16-20, 2.51
Doc McJames - 14-22, 3.33
Harry McIntire - 18-15, 2.73
Harry Howell - 5-15, 3.32

Batting AVG
.315, Mike Donlin, STL
.313 Pat Crisham, NYG
.312 Larry Doyle, NYG
.306 Tom McCreery, NYG
.303 Nap Lajoie, PHI

HOMERUNS
9 Solly Hofman, PIT
9 Elmer Flick, PHI
9 Frank Chance, PIT
8 Mike Donlin, STL

RBI
90 Sam Crawford, CIN
80 Larry McLean, CIN
79 Moose McCormick, NYG
77 Pat Crisham, NYG
76 Larry Doyle, NYG

OPS
.768 Mike Donlin, STL
.742 Larry Doyle, NYG
.725 Nap Lajoie, PHI
.722 Tom McCreery, NYG
.715 Sam Crawford, CIN

STEALS
73 Art Devlin, NYG (73-16, 82.02%)
46 Honus Wagner, PIT (46-10, 82.14%)
45 Hans Lobert, CIN (45-18, 71.43%)
44 Emmet Heidrick, STL (44-25, 63.77%)

ERA
1.53 Ed Karger, STL
1.75 Irv Young, BSN
1.78 Jack Pfiester, PIT
1.95 Carl Druhot, CIN
2.05 Red Ames, NYG

WINS
24 Tom Hughes, CHC
23 Jack Pfiester, PIT
23 Ed Karger, STL
22 Orval Overall, CIN

STRIKEOUTS
206 Jack Pfiester, PIT
203 Ed Reulbach, CHC
190 Charley Hall, CIN
189 Nap Rucker, BRO
189 Tom Hughes, CHC
187 Hooks Wiltse, NYG

POY: Jack Pfiester, PIT, 30, 23-12, 1.78 ERA, 59 BB, 206 K, .215 OAVG, 0.95 WHIP
BOY: LF Mike Donlin, STL, 30, .315, 69 RBI, 29 SB, .768 OPS
ROY: 2B Larry Doyle, NYG, 22, .312, 76 RBI, 37 SB, .742 OPS

Gold Gloves:
Pitcher: Christy Mathewson, NYG
Catcher: Tom Needham, BSN
First Base: Ed Konetchy, STL
Second Base: Nap Lajoie, PHI
Third Base: Nixey Callahan, PHI
Shortstop: Mickey Doolan, PHI
Leftfield: Topsy Hartsel, CIN
Centerfield: Solly Hofman, PIT
Rightfield: Frank Schulte, CHC

Matt from TN · 12-23-2005, 04:08 PM

1908 American League

Code:

Team                        W   L   %  GB
Philadelphia Athletics     95  60 .613 -
Boston Red Sox             94  61 .606 1
Cleveland Bronchos         78  76 .506 16.5
Washington Senators        77  77 .500 17.5
St. Louis Browns           73  81 .474 21.5
Detroit Tigers             72  82 .468 22.5
Chicago White Sox          65  89 .422 29.5
New York Highlanders       63  91 .409 31.5

League AVG: .249
League ERA: 2.78

Philadelphia Athletics

The 3-time defending AL champion Red Sox led the American League for most of the season. On September 30th the A's were 2.5-games back. Boston lost five straight games all to New York, and the Athletics won their final four games against Washington and Chicago. With the A's regular season over, the Red Sox had three games remaining at Detroit and they were nw 1.5-games behind. Miraculaously, Boston won all three games and tied for first. On October 9th, the A's and Red Sox faced off in Boston to determine the AL champion. Both teams had their aces going - Chief Bender and Norwood Gibson. The A's scored two runs in the 4th and added another in the 7th. In the 9th, the Red Sox managed to score a run off Bender and had a runner on first with just one out, but Jake Stahl and Ossee Schreckengost both grounded out and Philadelphia won their first pennant in five years.

Lineup:
C John Warner - .218, 24 RBI
1B Dave Fultz - .274, 47 RBI, 70 SB
2B Eddie Collins - .308, 55 RBI, 59 SB
3B John Knight - .280, 60 RBI
SS Jack Barry - .176, 59 RBI
LF Bris Lord - .278, 11 HR, 79 RBI
CF Danny Hoffman - .268, 36 RBI, 40 SB
RF Matty McIntyre - .294, 38 RBI

Top Bench:
1B Dan McGann - .274, 14 RBI, 12 SB
2B Danny Murphy - .266, 24 RBI
CF Harry Armbruster - .254, 16 RBI

Pitchers:
Chief Bender - 29-12, 1.91
Weldon Henley - 27-7, 2.22
Biff Schlitzer - 20-15, 1.98 (R)
Rube Vickers - 10-10, 2.31 (R)

Boston Red Sox

Norwood Gibson won 31 games, the most in history since Al Spalding won 41 in 1876 for Chicago while starting all of the team's 66 games. Gibson was named Top Pitcher for the 3rd time in four seasons.

C Ossee Schreckengost - .260, 73 RBI
1B Jake Stahl - .271, 71 RBI, 27 SB
2B Amby McConnell - .280, 37 RBI, 25 SB (R)
3B Harry Lord - .312, 74 RBI, 42 SB (R)
SS Freddy Parent - .212, 50 RBI
LF Patsy Dougherty - .308, 54 RBI, 46 SB
CF Charlie Hemphill - .348, 71 RBI, 24 SB
RF George Stone - .350, 70 RBI, 29 SB

Key Bench:
RF Gaavy Cravath - .265, 24 RBI

Pitchers:
Norwood Gibson - 31-10, 1.80
Ralph Glaze - 24-16, 1.82
Frank Oberlin - 18-11, 2.14
Joe Harris - 13-13, 2.66

Cleveland Bronchos

Lineup:
C Peaches Graham - .247, 12 HR, 50 RBI
1B George Stovall - .302, 75 RBI
2B Sam Mertes - .263, 45 RBI, 60 SB
3B Eddie Grant - .216, 58 RBI, 21 SB
SS Terry Turner - .285, 68 RBI
LF Claude Rossman - .334, 57 RBI
CF Joe Birmingham - .267, 52 RBI
RF Bill Hinchman - .251, 63 RBI

Key Bench:
C Peaches Graham - .385, 18 RBI
3B Jap Barbeau - .239, 18 RBI
RF Sport McAllister - .246, 8 RBI
CF Rube Vinson - .275, 13 RBI

Pitchers:
Charlie Smith - 14-25, 3.66
Glenn Liebhardt - 22-13, 2.63
Heinie Berger - 17-17, 2.52
Otto Hess - 15-9, 2.59

Washington Senators

Lineup:
C Lew Drill - .209, 32 RBI
1B Jerry Freeman - .272, 60 RBI (R)
2B Rabbit Robinson - .279, 57 RBI
3B Bill Coughlin - .233, 48 RBI
SS Dave Altizer - .264, 48 RBI, 23 SB
LF Jimmy Slagle - .291, 44 RBI, 50 SB
CF John Farrell - .242, 53 RBI, 23 SB
RF Emil Frisk - .242, 52 RBI

Pitchers:
Walter Johnson - 23-16, 2.29
Bill Burns - 15-20, 2.88 (R)
Burt Keeley - 15-14, 2.31 (R)
Oscar Graham - 8-13, 3.94
Case Patten - 4-7, 1.87

St. Louis Browns

Lineup:
C Billy Maloney - .259, 35 RBI, 32 SB
1B Branch Rickey - .212, 50 RBI
2B Harry Niles - .207, 50 RBI, 23 SB
3B Bill Friel - .207, 25 RBI
SS George McBride - .261, 57 RBI
LF Tom O'Brien - .274, 31 RBI
CF Davy Jones - .285, 50 RBI, 35 SB
RF Irv Waldron - .307, 62 RBI

Top Bench:
3B Wid Conroy - .291, 17 RBI
RF Al Schweitzer - .286, 15 RBI (R)

Pitchers:
Bill Grahame - 15-23, 2.84
Barney Pelty - 20-17, 2.78
Cy Morgan - 20-19, 2.79
Bill Bailey - 11-9, 3.08 (R)

Detroit Tigers

Lineup:
C Fred Payne - .178, 34 RBI
1B Charlie Carr - .296, 90 RBI
2B Red Downs - .245, 51 RBI
3B Kid Elberfeld - .257, 43 RBI
SS Simon Nicholls - .274, 52 RBI
LF Ty Cobb - .326, 87 RBI, 56 SB
CF Roy Thomas - .312, 44 RBI, 28 SB
RF Davey Crockett - .324, 61 RBI

Key Bench:
C Boss Schmidt - .254, 29 RBI
1B Chris Lindsay - .308, 12 RBI

Pitchers:
George Mullin - 17-21, 3.24
Ed Willett - 17-20, 3.40 (R)
Ed Summers - 11-23, 3.88 (R)
Eddie Cicotte - 13-7, 3.53 (R)

Chicago White Sox

Lineup:
C Hub Hart - .201, 30 RBI
1B Harry Davis - .269, 39 RBI, 28 SB
2B Billy Purtell - .127, 30 RBI
3B Pep Clark - .249, 54 RBI
SS Dave Brain - .252, 53 RBI
LF George Flynn - .215, 32 RBI, 57 SB
CF Mike Welday - .200, 52 RBI
RF John Shearon - .195, 32 RBI

Top Bench:
CF Jack McAleese - .297, 14 RBI

Pitchers:
Ed Walsh - 23-17, 2.05
Frank Smith - 11-26, 2.99
Elmer Stricklett - 17-19, 2.62
Nick Altrock - 6-8, 2.87

New York Highlanders

Lineup:
C Roger Bresnahan - .244, 33 RBI
1B Hal Chase - .271, 57 RBI, 30 SB
2B Gene DeMontreville - .262, 42 RBI, 29 SB
3B George Rohe - .241, 42 RBI
SS Neal Ball - .224, 43 RBI (R)
LF Billy Lush - .255, 30 RBI
CF Cy Seymour - .297, 43 RBI
RF Bob Unglaub - .313, 75 RBI

Key Bench:
RF Frank LaPorte - .286, 38 RBI

Pitchers:
Bill Hogg - 16-21, 2.55
Joe Lake - 13-25, 2.76 (R)
Joe Doyle - 14-18, 3.06
Bobby Keefe - 12-12, 3.97
Lew Brockett - 3-10, 4.44

Batting AVG
.350 George Stone, BOS
.348 Charlie Hemphill, BOS
.334 Claude Rossman, CLE
.326 Ty Cobb, DET
.324 Davey Crockett, DET

HOMERUNS
12 Nig Clarke, CLE
11 Bris Lord, PHA
8 Pep Clark, CHW

RBI
90 Charlie Carr, DET
87 Ty Cobb, DET
79 Bris Lord, PHA
75 Bob Unglaub, NYY
75 George Stovall, CLE

OPS
.799 George Stone, BOS
.779 Charlie Hemphill, BOS
.776 Roy Thomas, DET
.758 Claude Rossman, CLE
.744 Ty Cobb, DET
.739 Eddie Collins, PHA

STEALS
70 Dave Fultz, PHA (70-29, 70.71%)
60 Sam Mertes, CLE (60-16, 78.95%)
59 Eddie Collins, PHA (59-31, 65.56%)
57 George Flynn, CHW (57-25, 69.51%)
56 Ty Cobb, DET (56-31, 64.37%)

ERA
1.80 Norwood Gibson, BOS
1.82 Ralph Glaze, BOS
1.91 Chief Bender, PHA
1.98 Biff Schlitzer, PHA
2.05 Ed Walsh, CHW

WINS
31 Norwood Gibson, BOS
29 Chief Bender, PHA
27 Weldon Henley, PHA
24 Ralph Glaze, BOS
23 Ed Walsh, CHW
23 Walter Johnson, WSH

STRIKEOUTS
203 Biff Schlitzer, PHA
199 Norwood Gibson, BOS
194 Frank Smith, CHW
194 Bill Hogg, NYY
189 Ed Walsh, CHW
189 Charlie Smith, CLE
178 Walter Johnson, WSH

POY: Norwood Gibson, BOS, 31, 31-10, 1.80 ERA, 77 BB, 199 K, .203 OAVG, 0.95 WHIP
BOY: LF Ty Cobb, DET, 21, .326, 87 RBI, 56 SB, .744 OPS
ROY: Biff Schlitzer, PHA, 23, 20-15, 1.98 ERA, 80 BB, 203 K, .222 OAVG, 1.04 WHIP

Gold Gloves:
Pitcher: Ed Summers, DET
Catcher: Billy Maloney, SLB
First Base: Jake Stahl, BOS
Second Base: Billy Purtell, CHW
Third Base: John Knight, PHA
Shortstop: Terry Turner, CLE
Leftfield: Bris Lord, PHA
Centerfield: Davy Jones, SLB
Rightfield: Matty McIntyre, PHA

Matt from TN · 12-24-2005, 10:29 AM

1908 World Series

BOX SCORES

After playing the Red Sox for the pennant, the A's ace pitcher, Chief Bender, could not pitch until Game 2. In Game 1, they had Wledon Henley, who was nearly equally as devastating to opponents this season. However, Henley allowed a 1st inning run when Bill Keister walked and Bobby Wallace doubled. The Keister scored on a sac fly by Homer Smoot. Both Henley and St. Louis' Ed Karger were excellent the rest of the game. After 8 innings, the score was still 1-0. In the top of the 9th, Cardinals Ed Konetchy and Lee DeMontreville hit 1-out singles. A wild pitch by Henley advanced the runners to 2nd and 3rd. Then Konetchy scored on a sac fly. In the bottom of the inning, Slim Sallee came in to pitch after Karger was pinch hit for and nailed down the A's with a 1-2-3 9th.

The Cardinals came right out in Game 2 and scored three 1st inning runs off Bender. Meanwhile, Mordecai Brown allowed only 1 run through 8 innings. In the bottom of the 9th, St. Louis had a 5-1 lead. Then with one out, Eddie Collins reached base when Bender's throw to first pulled 1B Dave Fultz off the bag. Bris Lord followed with a double that scored Collins. Lord moved to third on the throw home, and he scored when Danny Hoffman hit a sac fly. Harry Armbruster hit a 2-out pinch hit single to keep the inning alive, but Jack Barry grounded out to end the game.

The Cardinals traveled home with a 2-0 series lead. In Game 3 rookie Irv Higginbotham faced off against fellow rookie Biff Schlitzer. The Cardinals scored the first run in the 2nd, but Philly tied the game 1-1 in the 5th. With two runners on base and one out in the bottom of the 7th, Lee DeMontreville hit a 2-run double and then scored on a Ed McFarland double. The Cardinals went on to win 4-1.

In Game 4, Henley and Karger locked horns in an impressive pitching duel that left both teams with a total of just 13 hits and no runs after 8 innings. Karger enduced three ground outs in the top of the 9th, and in the bottom of the 9th Karger struck out Konetchy and got DeMontreville to fly out. The game appeared to be entering extra innings. Then catcher Art Hoelskoetter stepped to the plate. He had not had a single at-bat in the World Series but entered this game in the 8th after McFarland was pinch hit for in the 7th. On a 1-1 pitch from Henley, Hoelskoetter made his one chance at the plate count by hitting a homerun than ended the game and won St. Louis their first World Series.

Winner, 4-0: St. Louis Cardinals, 1st Championship

metsgeek · 12-24-2005, 12:34 PM

Art Hoelsketter. Now that's a name I've never heard.

Sir Lurksalot · 12-24-2005, 03:53 PM

Art Hoelsketter. Legend.

12-20-2005, 01:56 PM	#102 (permalink)
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	1907 National League Code: Team W L % GB St. Louis Cardinals 90 64 .584 - Cincinnati Reds 86 68 .558 4 Chicago Cubs 86 68 .558 4 New York Giants 82 72 .532 8 Pittsburgh Pirates 77 77 .500 13 Philadelphia Phillies 71 83 .461 19 Boston Doves 66 88 .429 24 Brooklyn Superbas 58 96 .377 32 League AVG: .249 League ERA: 2.85 St. Louis Cardinals After finishing so close for the past six seasons, the Cardinals finally won their first pennant since winning six over eight years from 1886-1893 as the Detroit Wolverines and Cleveland Spiders. 3B Bobby Wallace won the batting title, and LF Mike Donlin finished 2nd in the batting race but was named Top Batter. Pitcher Ed Karger was named Top Rookie. Lineup: C Ed McFarland - .193, 41 RBI 1B Duff Cooley - .256, 49 RBI, 21 SB 2B Bill Keister - .279, 86 RBI, 45 SB 3B Bobby Wallace - .330, 70 RBI SS John McGraw - .300, 23 RBI, 33 SB LF Mike Donlin - .316, 78 RBI, 28 SB CF Homer Smoot - .285, 69 RBI RF Emmet Heidrick - .322, 62 RBI, 29 SB Key Bench: 1B Ed Konetchy - .317, 34 RBI (R) LF George Barclay - .268, 16 RBI Pitchers: Joe Corbett - 26-12, 2.62 Mordecai Brown - 19-19, 2.92 Ed Karger - 26-13, 2.47 (R) Bob Wicker - 11-7, 2.88 Cincinnati Reds With their 86-68 record, the Reds completed a fantastic turnaround from the worst season in franchise history in 1906 (59-95, .383). This year they won 27 more games than the year before. Their 86 wins is a franchise record, and their .558 winning percentage is the franchise's best since 1880... 27 years ago. The turnaround is primarily due to offense as the Reds led the NL with a .274 team average and 4.3 runs per game. Lineup: C Larry McLean - .280, 54 RB (R) 1B Kip Selbach - .282, 57 RBI, 20 SB 2B Miller Huggins - .257, 52 RBI, 21 SB 3B Hans Lobert - .251, 72 RBI, 45 SB SS Al Bridwell - .226, 47 RBI LF Topsy Hartsel - .306, 54 RBI, 52 SB CF Jimmy Barrett - .258, 39 RBI, 27 SB RF Sam Crawford - .310, 82 RBI Key Bench: RF Mike Mitchell - .258, 23 RBI (R) SS Ambrose McGann - .245, 23 RBI, 19 SB C Jocko Halligan - .278, 27 RBI 1B Fred Odwell - .263, 15 RBI Pitchers: Orval Overall - 24-15, 2.16 Roy Hitt - 18-19, 3.55 (R) Charley Hall - 19-11, 2.55 Carl Druhot - 10-10, 4.59 Chicago Cubs Lineup: C Frank Chance - .243, 42 RBI, 45 SB 1B Bill Everitt - .288, 29 RBI, 26 SB 2B Johnny Evers - .263, 30 RBI, 33 SB 3B Bill Bradley - .295, 56 RBI SS Joe Tinker - .290, 63 RBI, 21 SB LF Zaza Harvey - .300, 64 RBI RF Frank Schulte - .271, 64 RBI RF Danny Green - .310, 49 RBI Key Bench: 2B Germany Schaefer - .307, 44 RBI, 16 SB C Johnny Kling - .321, 36 RBI Pitchers: Ed Reulbach - 24-16, 1.98 Tom Hughes - 18-21, 2.92 Carl Lundgren - 19-17, 3.07 Fred Glade - 12-6, 3.10 New York Giants Lineup: C Pat Crisham - .278, 36 RBI 1B Tom McCreery - .306, 57 RBI, 31 SB 2B Jiggs Parrott - .250, 59 RBI, 34 SB 3B Art Devlin - .234, 39 RBI, 53 SB SS Charlie Babb - .169, 40 RBI LF Moose McCormick - .263, 48 RBI CF Curt Bernard - .236, 31 RBI RF Willie Keeler - .250, 37 RBI, 45 SB Pitchers: Red Ames - 21-17, 1.83 Hooks Wiltes - 24-13, 2.34 George Ferguson - 17-15, 2.63 Christy Mathewson - 8-14, 2.58 Pittsburgh Pirates Lineup: C Ed Phelps - .214, 28 RBI 1B Del Howard - .321, 41 RBI 2B Jimmy Williams - .235, 62 RBI 3B Jesse Hoffmeister - .257, 52 RBI, 27 SB SS Honus Wagner - .301, 74 RBI, 56 SB LF Fred Clarke - .246, 39 RBI, 51 SB CF Ginger Beaumont - .270, 58 RBI RF Otis Clymer - .294, 49 RBI, 26 SB Key Bench: C George Gibson - .238, 27 RBI 1B Kitty Bransfield - .253, 16 RBI Pitchers: Jack Pfiester - 18-20, 2.66 Howie Camnitz - 18-12, 2.50 (R) Lefty Leifield - 9-16, 3.15 Cy Falkenberg - 15-7, 2.23 Rube Waddell - 9-17, 3.75 Philadelphia Phillies Lineup: C Mike Grady - .228, 34 RBI 1B Nap Lajoie - .298, 81 RBI 2B Joe Ward - .150, 30 RBI 3B Ernie Courtney - .281, 37 RBI SS Mickey Doolan - .267, 58 RBI LF George Browne - .277, 30 RBI CF Elmer Flick - .270, 51 RBI, 25 SB RF John Titus - .288, 51 RBI Key Bench: LF Sherry Magee - .308, 33 RBI 3B Nixey Callahan - .250, 16 RBI Pitchers: Doc White - 25-15, 2.28 Tully Sparks - 18-21, 3.18 Happy Townsend - 8-16, 3.53 Fred Burchell - 10-13, 2.85 Johnny Lush - 4-9, 4.07 Boston Doves Lineup: C Tom Needham - .207, 11 HR, 64 RBI 1B Fred Tenney - .322, 24 RBI 2B Bill Lauterborn - .193, 40 RBI 3B Jimmy Collins - .210, 21 RBI SS Ed Abbaticchio - .225, 35 RBI LF Jim Delahanty - .286, 60 RBI CF Johnny Bates - .244, 56 RBI RF Chick Stahl - .270, 51 RBI Key Bench: 3B Ed Gremminger - .250, 10 RBI Pitchers: Irv Young - 16-21, 2.49 Jake Boultes - 21-20, 2.59 (R) Vic Willis - 16-22, 3.13 Sam Frock - 8-10, 3.24 (R) Bill Dinneen - 3-8, 4.51 Brooklyn Superbas Lineup: C Lew Ritter - .157, 32 RBI 1B Doc Gessler - .279, 68 RBI, 26 SB 2B Erve Beck - .243, 45 3B Emil Batch - .195, 39 RBI SS Phil Lewis - .234, 41 RBI LF Jimmy Sheckard - .283, 40 RBI CF Fielder Jones - .295, 41 RBI, 32 SB RF Harry Lumley - .251, 69 RBI Pitchers: Nap Rucker - 13-25, 2.86 (R) George Bell - 16-22, 3.30 (R) Harry McIntire - 15-12, 2.55 Doc McJames - 7-14, 3.51 Harry Howell - 4-9, 4.47 Batting AVG .330 Bobby Wallace, STL .316 Mike Donlin, STL .310 Sam Crawford, CIN .306 Topsy Hartsell, CIN .306 Tom McCreery, NYG .301 Honus Wagner, PIT HOMERUNS 11 Tom Needham, BSN 8 Hans Lobert, CIN RBI 86 Bill Keister, STL 82 Sam Crawford, CIN 81 Nap Lajoie, PHI 78 Mike Donlin, STL 74 Honus Wagner, PIT OPS .786 Topsy Hartsell, CIN .772 Sam Crawford, CIN .769 Honus Wagner, PIT .763 Bobby Wallace, STL .762 Mike Donlin, STL STEALS 56 Honus Wagner, PIT (56-14, 80.00%) 53 Art Devlin, NYG (53-18, 74.65%) 52 Topsy Hartsell, CIN (52-16, 76.47%) 51 Fred Clarke, PIT (51-7, 87.93%) ERA 1.83 Red ames, NYG (21-17) 1.98 Ed Reulbach, CHC (24-16) 2.16 Orval Overall, CIN (24-15) 2.23 Cy Falkenberg, PIT (15-7) 2.28 Doc White, PHI (25-15) WINS 26 Ed Karger, STL (26-13, 2.47) 26 Joe Corbett, STL (26-12, 2.62) 25 Doc White, PHI 24 Orval Overall, CIN 24 Hooks Wiltse, NYG (24-13, 2.34) 24 Ed Reulbach, CHC 21 Red Ames, NYG 21 Jake Boultes, BSN (21-20, 2.59) STRIKEOUTS 309 Ed Reulbach, CHC 308 Joe Corbett, STL 285 Nap Rucker, BRO 284 Orval Overall, CIN 268 Tom Hughes, CHC POY: Ed Reulbach, CHC, 24, 24-16, 1.98 ERA, 78 BB, 309 K, .210 OAVG, 0.97 WHIP BOY: LF Mike Donlin, STL, 29, .316, 78 RBI, 28 SB, .762 OPS ROY: Ed Karger, STL, 24, 26-13, 2.47, 55 BB, 214 K, .262 OAVG, 1.16 WHIP Gold Gloves: Pitcher: Happy Townsend, PHI Catcher: Ed Phelps, PIT First Base: Nap Lajoie, PHI Second Base: Bill Lauterborn, BSN Third Base: Bobby Wallace, STL Shortstop: Joe Tinker, CHC Leftfield: Topsy Hartsel, CIN Centerfield: Fielder Jones, BRO Rightfield: Chick Stahl, BSN __________________ Set in Stone... 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12-20-2005, 04:17 PM	#103 (permalink)
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	1907 American League Code: Team W L % GB Boston Red Sox 93 61 .604 - Cleveland Bronchos 85 69 .552 8 New York Highlanders 79 75 .513 14 Chicago White Sox 78 76 .506 15 Philadelphia Athletics 74 80 .481 19 Washington Senators 73 81 .474 20 Detroit Tigers 70 84 .455 23 St. Louis Browns 64 90 .416 29 League AVG: .235 League ERA: 2.57 Boston Red Sox Thanks to the highest scoring offense in the league and a pitching staff that allowed the 2nd fewest runs in the AL (with a 2.16 team ERA), the newly named Red Sox won their third straight pennant. C Ossee Schreckengost - .279, 71 RBI 1B Jake Stahl - .258, 9 HR, 99 RBI, 32 SB 2B Hobe Ferris - .228, 42 RBI 3B Harry Gleason - .221, 30 RBI SS Freddy Parent - .246, 60 RBI LF Patsy Dougherty - .324, 35 RBI, 45 SB CF Charlie Hemphill - .280, 39 RBI, 30 SB RF George Stone - .314, 66 RBI, 25 SB Key Bench: 1B Pearce Chiles - .348, 13 RBI Pitchers: Norwood Gibson - 22-14, 1.84 Ralph Glaze - 20-18, 2.07 Joe Harris - 16-10, 2.53 Frank Oberlin - 16-7, 1.49 Tex Pruiett - 9-5, 3.77 (R) Cleveland Bronchos Lineup: C Peaches Graham - .273, 38 RBI 1B Claude Rossman - .310, 60 RBI 2B Sam Mertes - .245, 50 RBI, 58 SB 3B Eddie Grant - .198, 48 RBI (R) SS Terry Turner - .279, 44 RBI LF John Kelty - .207, 33 RBI CF Rube Vinson - .204, 60 RBI RF Bill Hinchman - .216, 43 RBI (R) Key Bench: 1B George Stovall - .297, 19 RBI CF Joe Birmingham - .274, 15 RBI Pitchers: Charlie Smith - 21-16, 2.09 Glenn Liebhardt - 21-16, 2.01 (R) Heinie Berger - 25-10, 2.04 (R) Otto Hess - 11-9, 2.37 New York Highlanders Lineup: C Roger Bresnahan - .292, 41 RBI, 32 SB 1B Hal Chase - .304, 74 RBI, 26 SB 2B Gene DeMontreville - .317, 63 RBI, 32 SB 3B Jimmy Mathison - .197, 33 RBI SS Whitey Rohe - .219, 50 RBI LF Billy Lush - .305, 53 RBI CF Cy Seymour - .305, 58 RBI RF Frank LaPorte - .233, 70 RBI RBI Key Bench: 1B Burt Hart - .272, 20 RBI, 12 SB Pitchers: Bill Hogg - 22-14, 2.03 Walter Clarkson - 19-10, 2.57 Ambrose Puttmann - 10-22, 2.97 Joe Doyle - 15-14, 2.90 (R) Chicago White Sox Lineup: C Hub Hart - .173, 37 RBI (R) 1B Harry Davis - .254, 40 RBI, 34 SB 2B Art Madison - .206, 48 RBI 3B Pep Clark - .255, 42 RBI SS Dave Brain - .256, 53 RBI LF George Flynn - .241, 27 RBI, 53 SB CF Mike Welday - .203, 39 RBI (R) RF John Shearon - .191, 34 RBI (R) Top Bench: CF Jack McAleese - .297, 14 RBI Pitchers: Frank Smith - 22-17, 1.91 Ed Walsh - 19-19, 2.15 Elmer Stricklett - 12-23, 2.81 Nick Altrock - 10-9, 3.07 John Skopec - 9-5, 3.58 Philadelphia Athletics Lineup: C John Warner - .220, 38 RBI 1B Dan McGann - .242, 34 RBI, 41 SB 2B Danny Murphy - .243, 41 RBI 3B Jack Hannifin - .134, 34 RBI SS Harry Lochhead - .215, 30 RBI LF Bris Lord - .233, 66 RBI RBI CF Danny Hoffman - .222, 26 RBI, 27 SB RF Matty McIntyre - .288, 54 RBI Top Bench: CF Dave Fultz - .359, 20 RBI, 46 SB in 256 AB SS John Knight - .248, 15 RBI Pitchers: Chief Bender - 20-15, 1.88 Weldon Henley - 16-18, 1.95 Eddie Plank - 20-16, 3.02 Jimmy Dygert - 5-11, 2.53 Jack Coombs - 4-10, 3.28 Washington Senators Lineup: C Lew Drill - .222, 47 RBI 1B John Farrell - .265, 56 RBI, 22 RBI 2B Rabbit Robinson - .233, 51 RBI 3B Bill Coughlin - .175, 47 RBI SS Dave Altizer - .257, 39 RBI, 30 SB LF Jimmy Slagle - .274, 29 RBI, 61 SB CF Emil Frisk - .243, 52 RBI RF Izzy Hoffman - .178, 47 RBI Pitchers: Walter Johnson - 20-19, 2.39 (R) Henry Gehring - 13-24, 3.05 (R) Oscar Graham - 21-13, 2.08 (R) Davey Dunkle - 9-13, 3.15 Detroit Tigers Lineup: C Fred Payne - .176, 38 RBI 1B Charlie Carr - .318, 89 RBI 2B Harry Arndt - .175, 31 RBI 3B Charlie Dexter - .210, 30 RBI SS Kid Elberfeld - .276, 50 RBI, 27 SB LF Ty Cobb - .326, 61 RBI, 62 SB CF Roy Thomas - .348, 37 RBI, 21 SB RF Davey Crockett - .294, 68 RBI Key Bench: RF Tuck Turner - .251, 17 RBI Pitchers: George Mullin - 17-20, 2.06 Bugs Raymond - 15-15, 2.34 (R) Ed Killian - 12-15, 3.36 Ed Siever - 11-13, 4.04 Frank Owen - 7-13, 3.92 St. Louis Browns Lineup: C Billy Maloney - .224, 50 RBI, 22 SB 1B Branch Rickey - .217, 36 RBI (R) 2B Harry Niles - .217, 35 RBI, 28 SB 3B Bill Friel - .233, 29 RBI SS Roy Hartzell - .260, 56 RBI LF Tom O'Brien - .218, 37 RBI CF Davy Jones - .279, 36 RBI, 28 SB RF Irv Waldron - .332, 46 RBI Top Bench: CF Bill Hallman - .240, 5 RBI 2B Ike Rockendield - .333, 13 RBI Pitchers: Barney Pelty - 18-18, 2.38 Cy Morgan - 16-24, 3.52 Ed Smith - 16-23, 3.19 Harry Ables - 7-12, 3.27 Batting AVG .348 Roy Thomas, DET .332 Irv Waldron, SLB .326 Ty Cobb, DET .324 Patsy Dougherty, BOS HOMERUNS 9 Sam Mertes, CLE 9 Jake Stahl, BOS RBI 99 Jake Stahl, BOS 89 Charlie Carr, DET 74 Hal Chase, NYY 71 Ossee Schreckengost, BOS 70 Frank LaPorte, NYY OPS .821 Roy Thomas, DET .756 George Stone, BOS .753 Ty Cobb, DET STEALS 62 Ty Cobb, DET (62-17, 78.48%) 61 Jimmy Slagel, WSH (61-17, 77.92%) 58 Sam Mertes, CLE (58-22, 72.50%) 53 George Flynn, CHW (53-45, 54.08%) 46 Dave Fultz, PHA (46-15, 75.41%) ERA 1.49 Frank Oberlin, BOS 1.84 Norwood Gibson, BOS 1.88 Chief bender, PHA 1.91 Frank Smith, CHW 1.95 Weldon Henley, PHA WINS 25 Heinie Berger, CLE 22 Frank Smith, CHW 22 Bill Hogg, NYY 22 Norwood Gibson, BOS STRIKEOUTS 296 Ed Walsh, CHW 286 Frank Smith, CHW 277 Bill Hogg, NYY 269 Charlie Smith, CLE 263 Chief Bender, PHA POY: Norwood Gibson, BOS, 30, 22-14, 1.84 ERA, 78 BB, 239 K, .200 OAVG, 0.94 WHIP BOY: RF George Stone, BOS, 30, .314, 66 RBI, 25 SB, .756 OPS ROY: Heinie Berger, CLE, 25, 25-10, 2.04 ERA, 79 BB, 239 K, .217 OAVG, 1.03 WHIP Gold Gloves: Pitcher: Eddie Plank, PHA Catcher: Hub Hart, CHW First Base: Hal Chase, NYY Second Base: Harry Niles, SLB Third Base: Jack Hannifin, PHA Shortstop: Roy Hartzell, SLB Leftfield: John Kelty, CLE Centerfield: Rube Vinson, CLE Rightfield: Izzy Hoffman, WSH __________________ Set in Stone... 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12-21-2005, 11:15 AM	#106 (permalink)
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	1907 World Series BOX SCORES Catobase Updated! After losing the past two World Series, the Red Sox hoped to do things differently this autumn. Meanwhile, the Cardinals were playing in their first World Series. In Game 1, The Cardinals took a 1-0 lead in the first and the score remained 1-0 until the top of the 9th. In that inning, Boston got four straight singles off Mordecai Brown with 1 out. That gave them a 3-1 lead, and Norwood Gibson shut down St. Louis 1-2-3 in the bottom of the 9th to give the Red Sox the first win of the series. In Game 2, the Cardinals scored 5 runs off Frank Oberlin. The Red Sox made it 5-3 in the 4th but St. Louis went on to add 9 more runs and win 14-6. Game 3 was a different story. Boston scored 2 runs off Ed Karger in the 1st, but the Cardinals scored in the 4th to make it 2-1. A Freddy Parent double increased Boston's lead to 3-1. St. Louis did not have another baserunner the rest of the day as Ralph Glaze and Boston took a 2-1 series lead. In Game 4, Mordecai Brown tossed a 9-hit shutout and the Cardinals tagged Norwood Gibson for 7 runs, evening the series. Everyone knew Game 5 was a big key to the series, and the game was scoreless until Boston scored a run in the bottom of the 5th. The Red Sox added a run in the 6th and two more in the 7th. But in the top of the 8th, Frank Oberlin hit the leadoff man. Then John McGraw singled, and both runners advanced a base on an error by RF George Stone. After getting the next two batters out, Oberlin allowed a 2-run single to Emmet Heidrick. Bill Keister followed with another single, and Bobby Wallce hit a 2-run double to tie the game. Mike Donlin hit a 1-out triple in the top of the 10th off reliever Rube Kroh. He scored two batters later on a sac fly. Down 5-4 in the bottom of the 10th, Boston's Jake Stahl led off with a single off Bob Wicker. Catcher Ossee Schreckengost doubled and Stahl held at 3rd. Freddy Parent stroked a double to deef right field, scoring both runners and winning the game. In Game 6 Boston scored 2 runs in the 3rd, and by the time the Cardinals reached their final at bat in the 9th, they found themselves down 3-1. Bill Keister reached base on an error to lead off the inning, and Bobby Wallace singled him to 3rd. 1B Ed Konetchy's fly out was too shallow to score the runner, but Al Burch got a pinch hit single that drove Keister in. George Barclay grounded out, and with the tying run on 3rd, John McGraw grounded out to end the series. Winner, 4-2: Boston Red Sox, 1st Championship __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

12-22-2005, 03:38 PM	#113 (permalink)
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Key Incoming Rookies for 1908: NATIONAL LEAGUE Boston 2B Bill Sweeney --- Age 22, 8/9/6/7/6 talents Cincinnati CF Dode Paskert --- Age 26, 7/9/7/8/3 talents New York P Doc Crandall --- Age 20, 10 (104)/8/5 talents 2B Larry Doyle, "Laughing Larry" --- Age 21, 8/9/9/6/7 talents Philadelphia P George McQuillan --- Age 23, 10 (98)/7/5 talent P Bill Foxen --- Age 23, 10 (96)/4/3 talent Pittsburgh 1B Jim Kane, "Shamus" --- Age 26, 6/5/5/6/6 talent RF Chief Wilson --- Age 24, 7/8/9/3/4 talent St. Louis P Slim Sallee, "Scatter" --- Age 23, 6/8/8 talent CF Al Shaw --- Age 27, 6/7/6/8/6 talent AMERICAN LEAGUE Boston P Frank Arellanes --- Age 26, 10 (96)/8/3 talent C Bill Carrigan, "Rough" --- Age 24, 8/7/6/5/6 talent 2B Amby McConnell --- Age 25, 8/5/6/6/6 talent 3B Harry Lord --- Age 26, 9/6/6/3/6 talent RF Gavvy Cravath, "Cactus Gavvy" --- Age 27, 8/10/10/9/5 talent Detroit P Eddie Cicotte, "Knuckles" --- Age 23, 10 (114)/8/6 talent P Jack Rowan --- Age 20, 10 (113)/5/3 talent P Ed Summers, "Kickapoo Ed" --- Age 23, 10 (96)/8/3 talent P Ed Willett --- Age 24, 9/7/6 talent New York P Joe Lake --- Age 27, 10 (101)/7/3 SS Neal Ball --- Age 27, 6/7/6/4/6 talent Philadelphia P Biff Schlitzer --- Age 23, 10 (115)/4/3 talent 2B Eddie Collins, "Cocky" --- Age 21, 10/8/7/9/7 talent SS Jack Barry --- Age 21, 5/7/5/6/7 talent St. Louis P/1B Dode Criss --- Age 23, 6/9/5/6/6 and 9/1/3 talents Washington P Bill Burns, "Sleepy Bill" --- Age 28, 10 (90)/9/3 talent 1B Jerry Freeman --- Age 28, 6/6/5/5/6 talent CF Clyde Milan --- Age 21, 8/6/5/6/8 talent --- If any team has ever needed some offensive talent, it was this one. __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

12-22-2005, 05:04 PM	#116 (permalink)
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	1908 National League Code: Team W L % GB St. Louis Cardinals 90 64 .584 - Chicago Cubs 83 71 .539 7 Pittsburgh Pirates 83 71 .539 7 Cincinnati Reds 82 72 .532 8 Boston Doves 74 80 .481 16 New York Giants 70 84 .455 20 Philadelphia Phillies 70 84 .455 20 Brooklyn Superbas 64 90 .416 26 League AVG: .246 League ERA: 2.77 St. Louis Cardinals The Cardinals followed up their first pennant in St. Louis with another one this season. In September the race with Chicago was tight. The Cubs tied St. Louis for first early in the final month thanks to a 1-5 stretch the Cardinals struggled through. After that, St. Louis went on a 10-1 run and the Cubs never got closer than 3-games out again. Lineup: C Art Hoelskoetter - .169, 28 RBI (R) 1B Ed Konetchy - .251, 47 RBI 2B Bill Keister - .280, 52 RBI, 32 SB 3B Bobby Wallace - .278, 72 RBI SS John McGraw - .296, 42 RBI, 21 SB LF Mike Donlin - .315, 69 RBI, 29 SB CF Homer Smoot - .258, 57 RBI RF Emmet Heidrick - .344, 36 RBI, 44 SB Key Bench: SS Lee DeMontreville - .246, 23 RBI 3B Bobby Byrne - .287, 27 RBI LF George Barclay - .294, 15 RBI Pitchers: Joe Corbett - 19-18, 3.27 Mordecai Brown - 15-18, 2.46 Ed Karger - 23-9, 1.53 Irv Higginbotham - 16-10, 2.59 (R) Chicago Cubs Lineup: C Frank Chance - .238, 52 RBI, 30 SB 1B Bill Everitt - .344, 41 RBI, 30 SB 2B Johnny Evers - .257, 34 RBI, 37 SB 3B Bill Bradley - .254, 58 RBI SS Joe Tinker - .255, 51 RBI LF Zaza Harvey - .291, 52 RBI CF Danny Green - .310, 31 RBI RF Frank Schulte - .267, 62 RBI Key Bench: C Johnny Kling - .244, 31 RBI CF Harry McChesney - .223, 26 RBI 3B George Moriarty - .231, 14 RBI Pitchers: Ed Reulbach - 19-20, 2.82 Carl Lundgren - 20-15, 2.61 Tom Hughes - 24-16, 2.73 Fred Glade - 10-4, 3.50 Pittsburgh Pirates Lineup: C Ed Phelps - .251, 44 RBI 1B Del Howard - .272, 59 RBI 2B Jimmy Williams - .248, 51 RBI 3B Jesse Hoffmeister - .249, 40 RBI SS Honus Wagner - .257, 49 RBI, 46 SB LF Ginger Beaumont - .259, 32 RBI CF Solly Hofman - .231, 42 RBI RF Otis Clymer - .281, 68 RBI, 24 SB Key Bench: 2B Otto Knabe - .223, 15 RBI 1B Kitty Bransfield - .300, 14 RBI Pitchers: Jack Pfiester - 23-12, 1.78 Howie Camnitz - 15-19, 2.29 Cy Falkenberg - 16-17, 2.91 Lefty Leifield - 16-13, 2.36 Cincinnati Reds Lineup: C Larry McLean - .281, 80 RBI 1B Kip Selbach - .234, 49 RBI, 20 SB 2B Miller Huggins - .254, 38 RBI, 20 SB 3B Hans Lobert - .249, 64 RBI, 45 SB SS Al Bridwell - .241, 51 RBI LF Topsy Hartsel - .271, 30 RBI, 33 SB CF Jimmy Barrett - .308, 25 RBI, 27 SB RF Sam Crawford - .275, 90 RBI Key Bench: LF Mike Mitchell - .268, 10 RBI CF Dode Paskert - .248, 17 RBI Pitchers: Orval Overall - 22-16, 2.59 Charley Hall - 15-20, 2.74 Bob Ewing - 20-11, 2.70 Carl Druhot - 10-10, 1.95 Boston Doves Lineup: C Tom Needham - .176, 46 RBI 1B Fred Tenney - .313, 37 RBI 2B Bill Sweeney - .225, 48 RBI, 31 SB (R) 3B Ed Gremminger - .256, 30 RBI SS Ed Abbaticchio - .246, 40 RBI, 23 SB LF Jim Delahanty - .243, 60 RBI CF Johnny Bates - .290, 37 RBI, 29 SB RF Chick Stahl - .300, 39 RBI Key Bench: 1B Charlie Hickman - .247, 18 RBI RF Charlie Frisbee - .233, 15 RBI Pitchers: Irv Young - 17-19, 1.75 Jake Boultes - 20-15, 2.58 Sam Frock - 20-18, 3.08 Vic Willis - 8-8, 3.37 New York Giants Lineup: C Pat Crisham - .313, 77 RBI 1B Tom McCreery - .306, 56 RBI, 32 SB 2B Larry Doyle - .312, 76 RBI, 37 SB (R) 3B Art Devlin - .243, 40 RBI, 73 SB SS Joe Bean - .149, 39 RBI LF Moose McCormick - .283, 79 RBI CF Curt Bernard - .284, 27 RBI RF Jack Hendricks - .261, 57 RBI Pitchers: Hooks Wiltes - 20-17, 2.74 Red Ames - 19-17, 2.05 Doc Crandall - 14-24, 3.38 (R) Christy Mathewson - 7-11, 3.23 Philadelphia Phillies Lineup: C Fred Jacklitsch - .233, 34 RBI 1B Sherry Magee - .244, 73 RBI 2B Nap Lajoie - .303, 71 RBI 3B Nixey Callahan - .271, 46 RBI SS Mickey Doolan - .222, 58 RBI LF George Browne - .261, 39 RBI CF Elmer Flick - .236 ,62 RBI RF John Titus - .287, 40 RBI Key Bench: C Frank Roth - .234, 18 RBI Pitchers: Doc White - 15-22, 2.96 Tully Sparks - 17-17, 2.53 George McQuillan - 19-15, 2.71 (R) Fred Burchell - 8-8, 3.20 Brooklyn Superbas Lineup: C Lew Ritter - .173, 41 RBI 1B Doc Gessler - .288, 60 RBI, 27 SB 2B Erve Beck - .267, 51 RBI 3B Dutch Jordan - .188, 27 RBI SS Phil Lewis - .210, 38 RBI LF Jimmy Sheckard - .262, 36 RBI, 23 SB CF Fielder Jones - .264, 28 RBI, 33 SB RF Harry Lumley - .243, 49 RBI Top Bench: SS Tommy McMillan - .243, 14 RBI 2B Whitey Alperman - .233, 14 RBI Pitchers: Nap Rucker - 16-20, 2.51 Doc McJames - 14-22, 3.33 Harry McIntire - 18-15, 2.73 Harry Howell - 5-15, 3.32 Batting AVG .315, Mike Donlin, STL .313 Pat Crisham, NYG .312 Larry Doyle, NYG .306 Tom McCreery, NYG .303 Nap Lajoie, PHI HOMERUNS 9 Solly Hofman, PIT 9 Elmer Flick, PHI 9 Frank Chance, PIT 8 Mike Donlin, STL RBI 90 Sam Crawford, CIN 80 Larry McLean, CIN 79 Moose McCormick, NYG 77 Pat Crisham, NYG 76 Larry Doyle, NYG OPS .768 Mike Donlin, STL .742 Larry Doyle, NYG .725 Nap Lajoie, PHI .722 Tom McCreery, NYG .715 Sam Crawford, CIN STEALS 73 Art Devlin, NYG (73-16, 82.02%) 46 Honus Wagner, PIT (46-10, 82.14%) 45 Hans Lobert, CIN (45-18, 71.43%) 44 Emmet Heidrick, STL (44-25, 63.77%) ERA 1.53 Ed Karger, STL 1.75 Irv Young, BSN 1.78 Jack Pfiester, PIT 1.95 Carl Druhot, CIN 2.05 Red Ames, NYG WINS 24 Tom Hughes, CHC 23 Jack Pfiester, PIT 23 Ed Karger, STL 22 Orval Overall, CIN STRIKEOUTS 206 Jack Pfiester, PIT 203 Ed Reulbach, CHC 190 Charley Hall, CIN 189 Nap Rucker, BRO 189 Tom Hughes, CHC 187 Hooks Wiltse, NYG POY: Jack Pfiester, PIT, 30, 23-12, 1.78 ERA, 59 BB, 206 K, .215 OAVG, 0.95 WHIP BOY: LF Mike Donlin, STL, 30, .315, 69 RBI, 29 SB, .768 OPS ROY: 2B Larry Doyle, NYG, 22, .312, 76 RBI, 37 SB, .742 OPS Gold Gloves: Pitcher: Christy Mathewson, NYG Catcher: Tom Needham, BSN First Base: Ed Konetchy, STL Second Base: Nap Lajoie, PHI Third Base: Nixey Callahan, PHI Shortstop: Mickey Doolan, PHI Leftfield: Topsy Hartsel, CIN Centerfield: Solly Hofman, PIT Rightfield: Frank Schulte, CHC __________________ Set in Stone... 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12-20-2005, 09:10 PM	#104 (permalink)
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,251 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1x in 1 post	Can you say, "pitching heavy"?

12-21-2005, 11:34 AM	#107 (permalink)
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,029 Thanks: 33 Thanked 63x in 29 posts	MAtt, did you miss the Senators in the preseaon write-ups? I'd commented on the weak rookie class, but they have Walter Johnson (plus others)

12-22-2005, 12:48 AM	#111 (permalink)
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,029 Thanks: 33 Thanked 63x in 29 posts	Maybe the Senators fortunes change in this version? Although, look what's happened to Mathewson

12-22-2005, 04:51 PM	#114 (permalink)
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,029 Thanks: 33 Thanked 63x in 29 posts	ok, that's more like it. Eddie Collins the HoF 2B and Barry his MI partner in the $100,000 infield. Cravath was the active HR leader until some guy named Ruth blew by him. Neal Ball who had the first unassisted triple play (20th century) Chief Wilson who has the single season triples record (36)

12-23-2005, 04:08 PM	#117 (permalink)
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	1908 American League Code: Team W L % GB Philadelphia Athletics 95 60 .613 - Boston Red Sox 94 61 .606 1 Cleveland Bronchos 78 76 .506 16.5 Washington Senators 77 77 .500 17.5 St. Louis Browns 73 81 .474 21.5 Detroit Tigers 72 82 .468 22.5 Chicago White Sox 65 89 .422 29.5 New York Highlanders 63 91 .409 31.5 League AVG: .249 League ERA: 2.78 Philadelphia Athletics The 3-time defending AL champion Red Sox led the American League for most of the season. On September 30th the A's were 2.5-games back. Boston lost five straight games all to New York, and the Athletics won their final four games against Washington and Chicago. With the A's regular season over, the Red Sox had three games remaining at Detroit and they were nw 1.5-games behind. Miraculaously, Boston won all three games and tied for first. On October 9th, the A's and Red Sox faced off in Boston to determine the AL champion. Both teams had their aces going - Chief Bender and Norwood Gibson. The A's scored two runs in the 4th and added another in the 7th. In the 9th, the Red Sox managed to score a run off Bender and had a runner on first with just one out, but Jake Stahl and Ossee Schreckengost both grounded out and Philadelphia won their first pennant in five years. Lineup: C John Warner - .218, 24 RBI 1B Dave Fultz - .274, 47 RBI, 70 SB 2B Eddie Collins - .308, 55 RBI, 59 SB 3B John Knight - .280, 60 RBI SS Jack Barry - .176, 59 RBI LF Bris Lord - .278, 11 HR, 79 RBI CF Danny Hoffman - .268, 36 RBI, 40 SB RF Matty McIntyre - .294, 38 RBI Top Bench: 1B Dan McGann - .274, 14 RBI, 12 SB 2B Danny Murphy - .266, 24 RBI CF Harry Armbruster - .254, 16 RBI Pitchers: Chief Bender - 29-12, 1.91 Weldon Henley - 27-7, 2.22 Biff Schlitzer - 20-15, 1.98 (R) Rube Vickers - 10-10, 2.31 (R) Boston Red Sox Norwood Gibson won 31 games, the most in history since Al Spalding won 41 in 1876 for Chicago while starting all of the team's 66 games. Gibson was named Top Pitcher for the 3rd time in four seasons. C Ossee Schreckengost - .260, 73 RBI 1B Jake Stahl - .271, 71 RBI, 27 SB 2B Amby McConnell - .280, 37 RBI, 25 SB (R) 3B Harry Lord - .312, 74 RBI, 42 SB (R) SS Freddy Parent - .212, 50 RBI LF Patsy Dougherty - .308, 54 RBI, 46 SB CF Charlie Hemphill - .348, 71 RBI, 24 SB RF George Stone - .350, 70 RBI, 29 SB Key Bench: RF Gaavy Cravath - .265, 24 RBI Pitchers: Norwood Gibson - 31-10, 1.80 Ralph Glaze - 24-16, 1.82 Frank Oberlin - 18-11, 2.14 Joe Harris - 13-13, 2.66 Cleveland Bronchos Lineup: C Peaches Graham - .247, 12 HR, 50 RBI 1B George Stovall - .302, 75 RBI 2B Sam Mertes - .263, 45 RBI, 60 SB 3B Eddie Grant - .216, 58 RBI, 21 SB SS Terry Turner - .285, 68 RBI LF Claude Rossman - .334, 57 RBI CF Joe Birmingham - .267, 52 RBI RF Bill Hinchman - .251, 63 RBI Key Bench: C Peaches Graham - .385, 18 RBI 3B Jap Barbeau - .239, 18 RBI RF Sport McAllister - .246, 8 RBI CF Rube Vinson - .275, 13 RBI Pitchers: Charlie Smith - 14-25, 3.66 Glenn Liebhardt - 22-13, 2.63 Heinie Berger - 17-17, 2.52 Otto Hess - 15-9, 2.59 Washington Senators Lineup: C Lew Drill - .209, 32 RBI 1B Jerry Freeman - .272, 60 RBI (R) 2B Rabbit Robinson - .279, 57 RBI 3B Bill Coughlin - .233, 48 RBI SS Dave Altizer - .264, 48 RBI, 23 SB LF Jimmy Slagle - .291, 44 RBI, 50 SB CF John Farrell - .242, 53 RBI, 23 SB RF Emil Frisk - .242, 52 RBI Pitchers: Walter Johnson - 23-16, 2.29 Bill Burns - 15-20, 2.88 (R) Burt Keeley - 15-14, 2.31 (R) Oscar Graham - 8-13, 3.94 Case Patten - 4-7, 1.87 St. Louis Browns Lineup: C Billy Maloney - .259, 35 RBI, 32 SB 1B Branch Rickey - .212, 50 RBI 2B Harry Niles - .207, 50 RBI, 23 SB 3B Bill Friel - .207, 25 RBI SS George McBride - .261, 57 RBI LF Tom O'Brien - .274, 31 RBI CF Davy Jones - .285, 50 RBI, 35 SB RF Irv Waldron - .307, 62 RBI Top Bench: 3B Wid Conroy - .291, 17 RBI RF Al Schweitzer - .286, 15 RBI (R) Pitchers: Bill Grahame - 15-23, 2.84 Barney Pelty - 20-17, 2.78 Cy Morgan - 20-19, 2.79 Bill Bailey - 11-9, 3.08 (R) Detroit Tigers Lineup: C Fred Payne - .178, 34 RBI 1B Charlie Carr - .296, 90 RBI 2B Red Downs - .245, 51 RBI 3B Kid Elberfeld - .257, 43 RBI SS Simon Nicholls - .274, 52 RBI LF Ty Cobb - .326, 87 RBI, 56 SB CF Roy Thomas - .312, 44 RBI, 28 SB RF Davey Crockett - .324, 61 RBI Key Bench: C Boss Schmidt - .254, 29 RBI 1B Chris Lindsay - .308, 12 RBI Pitchers: George Mullin - 17-21, 3.24 Ed Willett - 17-20, 3.40 (R) Ed Summers - 11-23, 3.88 (R) Eddie Cicotte - 13-7, 3.53 (R) Chicago White Sox Lineup: C Hub Hart - .201, 30 RBI 1B Harry Davis - .269, 39 RBI, 28 SB 2B Billy Purtell - .127, 30 RBI 3B Pep Clark - .249, 54 RBI SS Dave Brain - .252, 53 RBI LF George Flynn - .215, 32 RBI, 57 SB CF Mike Welday - .200, 52 RBI RF John Shearon - .195, 32 RBI Top Bench: CF Jack McAleese - .297, 14 RBI Pitchers: Ed Walsh - 23-17, 2.05 Frank Smith - 11-26, 2.99 Elmer Stricklett - 17-19, 2.62 Nick Altrock - 6-8, 2.87 New York Highlanders Lineup: C Roger Bresnahan - .244, 33 RBI 1B Hal Chase - .271, 57 RBI, 30 SB 2B Gene DeMontreville - .262, 42 RBI, 29 SB 3B George Rohe - .241, 42 RBI SS Neal Ball - .224, 43 RBI (R) LF Billy Lush - .255, 30 RBI CF Cy Seymour - .297, 43 RBI RF Bob Unglaub - .313, 75 RBI Key Bench: RF Frank LaPorte - .286, 38 RBI Pitchers: Bill Hogg - 16-21, 2.55 Joe Lake - 13-25, 2.76 (R) Joe Doyle - 14-18, 3.06 Bobby Keefe - 12-12, 3.97 Lew Brockett - 3-10, 4.44 Batting AVG .350 George Stone, BOS .348 Charlie Hemphill, BOS .334 Claude Rossman, CLE .326 Ty Cobb, DET .324 Davey Crockett, DET HOMERUNS 12 Nig Clarke, CLE 11 Bris Lord, PHA 8 Pep Clark, CHW RBI 90 Charlie Carr, DET 87 Ty Cobb, DET 79 Bris Lord, PHA 75 Bob Unglaub, NYY 75 George Stovall, CLE OPS .799 George Stone, BOS .779 Charlie Hemphill, BOS .776 Roy Thomas, DET .758 Claude Rossman, CLE .744 Ty Cobb, DET .739 Eddie Collins, PHA STEALS 70 Dave Fultz, PHA (70-29, 70.71%) 60 Sam Mertes, CLE (60-16, 78.95%) 59 Eddie Collins, PHA (59-31, 65.56%) 57 George Flynn, CHW (57-25, 69.51%) 56 Ty Cobb, DET (56-31, 64.37%) ERA 1.80 Norwood Gibson, BOS 1.82 Ralph Glaze, BOS 1.91 Chief Bender, PHA 1.98 Biff Schlitzer, PHA 2.05 Ed Walsh, CHW WINS 31 Norwood Gibson, BOS 29 Chief Bender, PHA 27 Weldon Henley, PHA 24 Ralph Glaze, BOS 23 Ed Walsh, CHW 23 Walter Johnson, WSH STRIKEOUTS 203 Biff Schlitzer, PHA 199 Norwood Gibson, BOS 194 Frank Smith, CHW 194 Bill Hogg, NYY 189 Ed Walsh, CHW 189 Charlie Smith, CLE 178 Walter Johnson, WSH POY: Norwood Gibson, BOS, 31, 31-10, 1.80 ERA, 77 BB, 199 K, .203 OAVG, 0.95 WHIP BOY: LF Ty Cobb, DET, 21, .326, 87 RBI, 56 SB, .744 OPS ROY: Biff Schlitzer, PHA, 23, 20-15, 1.98 ERA, 80 BB, 203 K, .222 OAVG, 1.04 WHIP Gold Gloves: Pitcher: Ed Summers, DET Catcher: Billy Maloney, SLB First Base: Jake Stahl, BOS Second Base: Billy Purtell, CHW Third Base: John Knight, PHA Shortstop: Terry Turner, CLE Leftfield: Bris Lord, PHA Centerfield: Davy Jones, SLB Rightfield: Matty McIntyre, PHA __________________ Set in Stone... 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12-24-2005, 10:29 AM	#118 (permalink)
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	1908 World Series BOX SCORES After playing the Red Sox for the pennant, the A's ace pitcher, Chief Bender, could not pitch until Game 2. In Game 1, they had Wledon Henley, who was nearly equally as devastating to opponents this season. However, Henley allowed a 1st inning run when Bill Keister walked and Bobby Wallace doubled. The Keister scored on a sac fly by Homer Smoot. Both Henley and St. Louis' Ed Karger were excellent the rest of the game. After 8 innings, the score was still 1-0. In the top of the 9th, Cardinals Ed Konetchy and Lee DeMontreville hit 1-out singles. A wild pitch by Henley advanced the runners to 2nd and 3rd. Then Konetchy scored on a sac fly. In the bottom of the inning, Slim Sallee came in to pitch after Karger was pinch hit for and nailed down the A's with a 1-2-3 9th. The Cardinals came right out in Game 2 and scored three 1st inning runs off Bender. Meanwhile, Mordecai Brown allowed only 1 run through 8 innings. In the bottom of the 9th, St. Louis had a 5-1 lead. Then with one out, Eddie Collins reached base when Bender's throw to first pulled 1B Dave Fultz off the bag. Bris Lord followed with a double that scored Collins. Lord moved to third on the throw home, and he scored when Danny Hoffman hit a sac fly. Harry Armbruster hit a 2-out pinch hit single to keep the inning alive, but Jack Barry grounded out to end the game. The Cardinals traveled home with a 2-0 series lead. In Game 3 rookie Irv Higginbotham faced off against fellow rookie Biff Schlitzer. The Cardinals scored the first run in the 2nd, but Philly tied the game 1-1 in the 5th. With two runners on base and one out in the bottom of the 7th, Lee DeMontreville hit a 2-run double and then scored on a Ed McFarland double. The Cardinals went on to win 4-1. In Game 4, Henley and Karger locked horns in an impressive pitching duel that left both teams with a total of just 13 hits and no runs after 8 innings. Karger enduced three ground outs in the top of the 9th, and in the bottom of the 9th Karger struck out Konetchy and got DeMontreville to fly out. The game appeared to be entering extra innings. Then catcher Art Hoelskoetter stepped to the plate. He had not had a single at-bat in the World Series but entered this game in the 8th after McFarland was pinch hit for in the 7th. On a 1-1 pitch from Henley, Hoelskoetter made his one chance at the plate count by hitting a homerun than ended the game and won St. Louis their first World Series. Winner, 4-0: St. Louis Cardinals, 1st Championship __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise Last edited by Matt from TN; 12-24-2005 at 10:31 AM.

12-24-2005, 12:34 PM	#119 (permalink)
metsgeek Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 5,449 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Art Hoelsketter. Now that's a name I've never heard. __________________ Commissioner - PBRL Time Warp Baseball - Boston Red Sox The Baseball Chronicle - Cleveland Spiders

12-24-2005, 03:53 PM	#120 (permalink)
Sir Lurksalot All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 966 Thanks: 56 Thanked 172x in 100 posts	Art Hoelsketter. Legend. Last edited by Sir Lurksalot; 12-24-2005 at 03:54 PM.

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