A Baseball House Divided - Page 5

canadiancreed · 03-17-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by legendsport

No problem - it's great to see that you're enjoying this little jaunt into alternate reality...

indeed. Wonder how Mexico and Canada will get involved if at all

legendsport · 03-17-2006, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

indeed. Wonder how Mexico and Canada will get involved if at all

Well, Mexico has already been peripherally involved by selling Sonora and Chihuahua provinces to the CSA (giving the Confederacy a Pacific coast), and they will figure in the baseball aspect as well.

Canada will get in as well, but I don't want to spoil anything...

canadiancreed · 03-17-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by legendsport

Well, Mexico has already been peripherally involved by selling Sonora and Chihuahua provinces to the CSA (giving the Confederacy a Pacific coast), and they will figure in the baseball aspect as well.

Canada will get in as well, but I don't want to spoil anything...

why am I worried all of a sudden

legendsport · 03-17-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

why am I worried all of a sudden

the next political post will give you a hint...

legendsport · 03-17-2006, 11:10 AM

from the Columbia Patriot, February 22, 1903:

Newly appointed Ambassador to Germany Theodore Roosevelt, en route to Berlin, was quoted on his mission: "The policy of President McKinley is to pursue a close relationship with the Kaiser's government. Germany has ascended to the primary role in continental politics and it would only be wise for the United States to be on a good footing with them."

When a reporter pointed out that this would likely alienate the French, who are the historic enemies of Germany, Roosevelt added, "Well, let's just say that the Frogs are not in dutch, pardon the pun, with our government. Has anyone forgotten their tacit support of the Confederates, both in the War of the Rebellion and during the recent conflict?" As for the British, "They're too busy trying to get a foot in South America..."

canadiancreed · 03-17-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by legendsport

from the Columbia Patriot, February 22, 1903:

Newly appointed Ambassador to Germany Theodore Roosevelt, en route to Berlin, was quoted on his mission: "The policy of President McKinley is to pursue a close relationship with the Kaiser's government. Germany has ascended to the primary role in continental politics and it would only be wise for the United States to be on a good footing with them."

When a reporter pointed out that this would likely alienate the French, who are the historic enemies of Germany, Roosevelt added, "Well, let's just say that the Frogs are not in dutch, pardon the pun, with our government. Has anyone forgotten their tacit support of the Confederates, both in the War of the Rebellion and during the recent conflict?" As for the British, "They're too busy trying to get a foot in South America..."

so basically going for the main power in the continent hmm? Intresting. Wonder if the border will be as transparent and good for business a it was up to a few years ago, or if the anti-British sentiment will spill over?

legendsport · 03-17-2006, 01:59 PM

from the Sporting Way, March 29, 1903:

As teams began to leave training camps in Arizona and California for the start of the 1903 baseball season, the single-most asked question was "So, who's going to win it this year?"

The Giants and Lumberjacks return their pennant-winning starting lineups intact, so the smart money would likely be on those two. But a shrewd prognosticator would look at a few other factors. For example, the San Diego squad, runners-up last year, also return an intact team, plus their new ace - "Tornado" Jake Weimer, a 29-year old from the agricultural league in Ottumwa, Iowa. Star-in-the-making Joe Tinker holds down the shortstop position, and Fred Tenney is a bona fide offensive star. The Conquistadors are fully capable of upsetting Connie Mack's Portland squad.

In the Federal League, the Giants cruised to a relatively easy title. But a pair of 1902 also-rans from Pennsylvania picked up two of the top chuckers to come out of the amateur ranks. Philadelphia, last season's doormat (and embarassment to Ben Shibe), found a gem in home-state prospect "Chief" Bender. The 18-year-old may not be ready, but when he is the City of Brotherly Love's squad will be doormats no more. The other Pennsylvania team, Pittsburgh, inked Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown. Brown lost a pair of digits to a farm accident, but his thus reduced claw can employ miraculous spin on the horsehide, making him a challenge for any swinger of the lumber. Still, the pick's the Giants - Buck Freeman and co. are the class of the East. Columbia, with up-and-comers Frank Chance, Pete Hill and Sam Crawford, might surprise, but the smart money is on the Giants.

legendsport · 03-17-2006, 02:22 PM

from the Confederate Foreign Review, April 19, 1903:

The late crisis in the Caribbean, where the German, British and Italian navies squared off with that of the Confederacy over the former's presence in Venezuelan waters, has been solved without bloodshed.

The new Secretary of State, Thomas F. Bayard, acting under the direction of President Pritchard, coordinated a peaceful settlement between the government of Venezuelan President Cipriano Castro and the European powers. Part of the settlement is the assumption of a portion of the debt by the Confederate government in exchange for a 99-year lease on two naval bases.

The first base is to be built in the Gulf of Paria, which is strategically placed to counterbalance European bases in Trinidad and Tobego and grants access to the Atlantic Ocean. The second would be built at Porto Cabello on the Caribbean coast. These basing rights expand the possible range of the Confederate Navy into the South Atlantic as well as the entire Caribbean basin, and will be used to help protect the construction of the Panamian canal.

canadiancreed · 03-17-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by legendsport

from the Confederate Foreign Review, April 19, 1903:

The late crisis in the Caribbean, where the German, British and Italian navies squared off with that of the Confederacy over the former's presence in Venezuelan waters, has been solved without bloodshed.

The new Secretary of State, Thomas F. Bayard, acting under the direction of President Pritchard, coordinated a peaceful settlement between the government of Venezuelan President Cipriano Castro and the European powers. Part of the settlement is the assumption of a portion of the debt by the Confederate government in exchange for a 99-year lease on two naval bases.

The first base is to be built in the Gulf of Paria, which is strategically placed to counterbalance European bases in Trinidad and Tobego and grants access to the Atlantic Ocean. The second would be built at Porto Cabello on the Caribbean coast. These basing rights expand the possible range of the Confederate Navy into the South Atlantic as well as the entire Caribbean basin, and will be used to help protect the construction of the Panamian canal.

looks like the confederacy is taking the role of the imperialistic US of the late 1800's

legendsport · 03-17-2006, 02:30 PM

from the Sporting Way, June 3, 1903:

Surprising Boston hanging close to New York in pennant chase; San Francisco holds slim edge on Portland & San Diego in Pacific League...

Code:

Tuesday, 6/1/1903
Federal Standings
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt	Diff	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
New York	25	17	.595	-	21-21	4	12-3	13-14	5-0	9-3	110	L1	7-3
Boston		22	20	.524	3.0	24-18	-2	15-9	7-11	1-1	5-6	-	L4	6-4
Chicago		20	22	.476	5.0	21-21	-1	12-8	8-14	1-3	2-5	-	L1	5-5
Philadelphia	20	22	.476	5.0	18-24	2	13-12	7-10	4-1	4-2	-	W2	4-6
Columbia	20	23	.465	5.5	23-20	-3	8-10	12-13	1-4	7-10	-	W1	3-7
Pittsburgh	20	23	.465	5.5	20-23	0	10-15	10-8	1-4	6-7	-	W1	5-5
Pacific Standings
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt	Diff	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
San Francisco	25	18	.581	-	25-18	0	13-12	12-6	2-1	7-6	111	W2	6-4
Portland	23	19	.548	1.5	20-22	3	15-9	8-10	2-2	9-3	-	W1	6-4
San Diego	23	19	.548	1.5	25-17	-2	14-11	9-8	5-2	6-9	-	L2	4-6
Oakland		21	22	.488	4.0	22-21	-1	7-11	14-11	2-2	7-7	-	L1	6-4
Sacramento	20	22	.476	4.5	20-22	0	6-9	14-13	2-2	4-4	-	W2	6-4
Los Angeles	15	27	.357	9.5	16-26	-1	7-13	8-14	1-5	5-9	-	L4	2-8

"Wee" Willie Keeler of Pittsburgh leads the batting race in the Federal League with a .396 mark, while the Pacific is paced by San Diego's Ginger Beaumont, who is hitting at a .355 clip.

legendsport · 03-17-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

looks like the confederacy is taking the role of the imperialistic US of the late 1800's

Yes, Pritchard is going to be an "active" President...

canadiancreed · 03-17-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by legendsport

Yes, Pritchard is going to be an "active" President...

another Theddy. WOnder if programs at home will suffer, or if the Confeds will have the fallout of reputation that presently dogs the US in that section of the world now?

legendsport · 03-17-2006, 02:39 PM

from the Sporting Way, June 3, 1903:

Last fall's championship opponents, the Giants and Lumberjacks, pulled off a swap on May 28 as Portland acquired "Big" Ed Delahanty from the Giants, sending back little-used second baseman Charlie Grant, an integration player with a lot of potential, and bit-player Joe Hughes.

For Portland, the deal makes great sense as Delahanty is a talented outfielder who will fit nicely into the 'Jacks lineup behind Honus Wagner. For New York, Delahanty was considered expendable, and the addition of Grant gives the Giants a second baseman of the future - and that future may be a season or two away.

legendsport · 03-17-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

another Theddy. WOnder if programs at home will suffer, or if the Confeds will have the fallout of reputation that presently dogs the US in that section of the world now?

no comment..... yet

legendsport · 03-17-2006, 03:00 PM

from the Sporting Way, July 4, 1903:

Giants build big lead in Fed race, the Conquistadors open up on the field in the Pacific.

Code:

Federal Standings
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt.	Diff	 	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
New York	45	25	.643	-	43-27	2	 	24-8	21-17	6-0	12-6	75	W1	7-3
Boston		36	35	.507	9.5	38-33	-2	 	19-16	17-19	2-3	10-12	-	W2	5-5
Columbia	35	36	.493	10.5	39-32	-4	 	15-17	20-19	1-7	12-13	-	L1	5-5
Chicago		33	37	.471	12.0	34-36	-1	 	22-16	11-21	1-3	5-9	-	W3	4-6
Pittsburgh	33	37	.471	12.0	31-39	2	 	18-18	15-19	3-4	11-9	-	L2	7-3
Philadelphia	29	41	.414	16.0	27-43	2	 	19-19	10-22	6-2	9-10	-	L2	2-8
Pacific Standings
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt.	Diff	 	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
San Diego	42	28	.600	-	42-28	0	 	23-15	19-13	6-2	16-11	81	L1	7-3
San Francisco	37	32	.536	4.5	38-31	-1	 	16-19	21-13	2-3	8-14	-	L1	5-5
Sacramento	35	35	.500	7.0	39-31	-4	 	15-17	20-18	4-2	7-11	-	W1	5-5
Portland	35	36	.493	7.5	31-40	4	 	18-17	17-19	3-3	15-7	-	W1	4-6
Oakland		33	37	.471	9.0	33-37	0	 	14-18	19-19	2-5	12-13	-	L1	5-5
Los Angeles	28	42	.400	14.0	27-43	1	 	16-22	12-20	3-5	11-13	-	W1	3-7

legendsport · 03-17-2006, 03:01 PM

There may be no updates for awhile. I'm having connectivity problems at home and the cable guy's not coming til Monday, so....

I will update when I can - thanks for reading.

canadiancreed · 03-17-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by legendsport

There may be no updates for awhile. I'm having connectivity problems at home and the cable guy's not coming til Monday, so....

I will update when I can - thanks for reading.

considering the blistering pace it's all good

Sir Lurksalot · 03-17-2006, 06:37 PM

First You pick the team 2.0, then Hurkman now this?! Man, when it rains it pours!

legendsport · 03-20-2006, 01:39 PM

Memorandum, CS President Pritchard to General R.E. Stuart, July 11, 1903:

General,

You are hereby authorized to implement Operation Snowfall. I expect your operatives to be in place by August 15th and the actual operation to have been successfully concluded no later than the 1st of September.

Should you or any of your operatives be captured, you are to disavow all knowledge of this and any other Confederate operations. You are also reminded that capture will result in no support from any official Confederate agency.

- Pritchard

legendsport · 03-20-2006, 01:52 PM

from the Sporting Way, August 2, 1903:

GIANTS, LED BY "HOMERUN" JOHNSON STILL ATOP FEDERAL STANDINGS - Grant "Home Run" Johnson who connected for three circuit clouts in last fall's championship series, has hit 16 long blasts this season, easily the best in all of baseball, and his bat has led the New York Giants to a 57-37 record, best in the Federal League. Meanwhile, the Pacific race is being led by the San Diego Conquistadors, who are balanced in all facets, with Joe Tinker and Ginger Beaumont leading the defense and offense respectively, and a strong pitching staff led by a pair of Bills: "Big" Bill Dineen and "Wild" Bill Donovan.

Code:

Federal Standings
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt.	Diff	 	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
New York	57	37	.606	-	58-36	-1	 	30-15	27-22	6-1	14-9	53	W2	6-4
Columbia	50	45	.526	7.5	53-42	-3	 	22-20	28-25	1-7	17-17	-	W1	4-6
Boston		49	46	.516	8.5	52-43	-3	 	27-22	22-24	4-4	15-17	-	L1	7-3
Chicago		47	48	.495	10.5	48-47	-1	 	29-23	18-25	2-4	12-12	-	L2	6-4
Pittsburgh	44	51	.463	13.5	40-55	4	 	24-23	20-28	3-5	15-15	-	L3	4-6
Philadelphia	37	57	.394	20.0	34-60	3	 	22-27	15-30	7-2	11-14	-	W3	3-7
Pacific Standings
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt.	Diff	 	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
San Diego	60	34	.638	-	59-35	1	 	31-18	29-16	8-2	24-12	51	W2	7-3
San Francisco	50	44	.532	10.0	53-41	-3	 	22-24	28-20	3-4	10-18	-	W1	5-5
Sacramento	46	48	.489	14.0	50-44	-4	 	20-25	26-23	4-2	10-14	-	L1	5-5
Oakland		45	49	.479	15.0	45-49	0	 	20-22	25-27	2-6	17-18	-	W5	7-3
Portland	45	50	.474	15.5	42-53	3	 	25-24	20-26	4-6	18-16	-	L2	3-7
Los Angeles	37	58	.389	23.5	35-60	2	 	20-32	17-26	4-5	14-15	-	L5	3-7

03-17-2006, 11:10 AM	#85 (permalink)
legendsport All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 1,749	Ambassador Roosevelt heads for Berlin from the Columbia Patriot, February 22, 1903: Newly appointed Ambassador to Germany Theodore Roosevelt, en route to Berlin, was quoted on his mission: "The policy of President McKinley is to pursue a close relationship with the Kaiser's government. Germany has ascended to the primary role in continental politics and it would only be wise for the United States to be on a good footing with them." When a reporter pointed out that this would likely alienate the French, who are the historic enemies of Germany, Roosevelt added, "Well, let's just say that the Frogs are not in dutch, pardon the pun, with our government. Has anyone forgotten their tacit support of the Confederates, both in the War of the Rebellion and during the recent conflict?" As for the British, "They're too busy trying to get a foot in South America..." __________________ The Baseball Chronicle - Fake Players, Real Excitement! (Dynasty Thread) - Website Other Leagues: Alternate Universe Football (1983) Blood 'n Guts Football (Retro Fictional) My MLBlog Last edited by legendsport : 03-17-2006 at 11:23 AM.

03-17-2006, 01:59 PM	#87 (permalink)
legendsport All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 1,749	1903 U.S. Baseball Preview from the Sporting Way, March 29, 1903: As teams began to leave training camps in Arizona and California for the start of the 1903 baseball season, the single-most asked question was "So, who's going to win it this year?" The Giants and Lumberjacks return their pennant-winning starting lineups intact, so the smart money would likely be on those two. But a shrewd prognosticator would look at a few other factors. For example, the San Diego squad, runners-up last year, also return an intact team, plus their new ace - "Tornado" Jake Weimer, a 29-year old from the agricultural league in Ottumwa, Iowa. Star-in-the-making Joe Tinker holds down the shortstop position, and Fred Tenney is a bona fide offensive star. The Conquistadors are fully capable of upsetting Connie Mack's Portland squad. In the Federal League, the Giants cruised to a relatively easy title. But a pair of 1902 also-rans from Pennsylvania picked up two of the top chuckers to come out of the amateur ranks. Philadelphia, last season's doormat (and embarassment to Ben Shibe), found a gem in home-state prospect "Chief" Bender. The 18-year-old may not be ready, but when he is the City of Brotherly Love's squad will be doormats no more. The other Pennsylvania team, Pittsburgh, inked Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown. Brown lost a pair of digits to a farm accident, but his thus reduced claw can employ miraculous spin on the horsehide, making him a challenge for any swinger of the lumber. Still, the pick's the Giants - Buck Freeman and co. are the class of the East. Columbia, with up-and-comers Frank Chance, Pete Hill and Sam Crawford, might surprise, but the smart money is on the Giants. __________________ The Baseball Chronicle - Fake Players, Real Excitement! (Dynasty Thread) - Website Other Leagues: Alternate Universe Football (1983) Blood 'n Guts Football (Retro Fictional) My MLBlog

03-17-2006, 02:22 PM	#88 (permalink)
legendsport All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 1,749	Venezuelan Settlement from the Confederate Foreign Review, April 19, 1903: The late crisis in the Caribbean, where the German, British and Italian navies squared off with that of the Confederacy over the former's presence in Venezuelan waters, has been solved without bloodshed. The new Secretary of State, Thomas F. Bayard, acting under the direction of President Pritchard, coordinated a peaceful settlement between the government of Venezuelan President Cipriano Castro and the European powers. Part of the settlement is the assumption of a portion of the debt by the Confederate government in exchange for a 99-year lease on two naval bases. The first base is to be built in the Gulf of Paria, which is strategically placed to counterbalance European bases in Trinidad and Tobego and grants access to the Atlantic Ocean. The second would be built at Porto Cabello on the Caribbean coast. These basing rights expand the possible range of the Confederate Navy into the South Atlantic as well as the entire Caribbean basin, and will be used to help protect the construction of the Panamian canal. __________________ The Baseball Chronicle - Fake Players, Real Excitement! (Dynasty Thread) - Website Other Leagues: Alternate Universe Football (1983) Blood 'n Guts Football (Retro Fictional) My MLBlog

03-17-2006, 02:39 PM	#93 (permalink)
legendsport All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 1,749	Title Combatants Make Swap from the Sporting Way, June 3, 1903: Last fall's championship opponents, the Giants and Lumberjacks, pulled off a swap on May 28 as Portland acquired "Big" Ed Delahanty from the Giants, sending back little-used second baseman Charlie Grant, an integration player with a lot of potential, and bit-player Joe Hughes. For Portland, the deal makes great sense as Delahanty is a talented outfielder who will fit nicely into the 'Jacks lineup behind Honus Wagner. For New York, Delahanty was considered expendable, and the addition of Grant gives the Giants a second baseman of the future - and that future may be a season or two away. __________________ The Baseball Chronicle - Fake Players, Real Excitement! (Dynasty Thread) - Website Other Leagues: Alternate Universe Football (1983) Blood 'n Guts Football (Retro Fictional) My MLBlog

03-17-2006, 03:01 PM	#96 (permalink)
legendsport All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 1,749	There may be no updates for awhile. I'm having connectivity problems at home and the cable guy's not coming til Monday, so.... I will update when I can - thanks for reading. __________________ The Baseball Chronicle - Fake Players, Real Excitement! (Dynasty Thread) - Website Other Leagues: Alternate Universe Football (1983) Blood 'n Guts Football (Retro Fictional) My MLBlog

03-17-2006, 06:37 PM	#98 (permalink)
Sir Lurksalot Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 229	First You pick the team 2.0, then Hurkman now this?! Man, when it rains it pours!

03-20-2006, 01:39 PM	#99 (permalink)
legendsport All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 1,749	Memorandum, CS President Pritchard to General R.E. Stuart, July 11, 1903: General, You are hereby authorized to implement Operation Snowfall. I expect your operatives to be in place by August 15th and the actual operation to have been successfully concluded no later than the 1st of September. Should you or any of your operatives be captured, you are to disavow all knowledge of this and any other Confederate operations. You are also reminded that capture will result in no support from any official Confederate agency. - Pritchard __________________ The Baseball Chronicle - Fake Players, Real Excitement! (Dynasty Thread) - Website Other Leagues: Alternate Universe Football (1983) Blood 'n Guts Football (Retro Fictional) My MLBlog

03-20-2006, 01:52 PM	#100 (permalink)
legendsport All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 1,749	USPBO Standings, August 1, 1903: from the Sporting Way, August 2, 1903: GIANTS, LED BY "HOMERUN" JOHNSON STILL ATOP FEDERAL STANDINGS - Grant "Home Run" Johnson who connected for three circuit clouts in last fall's championship series, has hit 16 long blasts this season, easily the best in all of baseball, and his bat has led the New York Giants to a 57-37 record, best in the Federal League. Meanwhile, the Pacific race is being led by the San Diego Conquistadors, who are balanced in all facets, with Joe Tinker and Ginger Beaumont leading the defense and offense respectively, and a strong pitching staff led by a pair of Bills: "Big" Bill Dineen and "Wild" Bill Donovan. Code: Federal Standings Team W L PCT GB Pyt. Diff Home Away XInn 1Run M# Streak Last10 New York 57 37 .606 - 58-36 -1 30-15 27-22 6-1 14-9 53 W2 6-4 Columbia 50 45 .526 7.5 53-42 -3 22-20 28-25 1-7 17-17 - W1 4-6 Boston 49 46 .516 8.5 52-43 -3 27-22 22-24 4-4 15-17 - L1 7-3 Chicago 47 48 .495 10.5 48-47 -1 29-23 18-25 2-4 12-12 - L2 6-4 Pittsburgh 44 51 .463 13.5 40-55 4 24-23 20-28 3-5 15-15 - L3 4-6 Philadelphia 37 57 .394 20.0 34-60 3 22-27 15-30 7-2 11-14 - W3 3-7 Pacific Standings Team W L PCT GB Pyt. Diff Home Away XInn 1Run M# Streak Last10 San Diego 60 34 .638 - 59-35 1 31-18 29-16 8-2 24-12 51 W2 7-3 San Francisco 50 44 .532 10.0 53-41 -3 22-24 28-20 3-4 10-18 - W1 5-5 Sacramento 46 48 .489 14.0 50-44 -4 20-25 26-23 4-2 10-14 - L1 5-5 Oakland 45 49 .479 15.0 45-49 0 20-22 25-27 2-6 17-18 - W5 7-3 Portland 45 50 .474 15.5 42-53 3 25-24 20-26 4-6 18-16 - L2 3-7 Los Angeles 37 58 .389 23.5 35-60 2 20-32 17-26 4-5 14-15 - L5 3-7 __________________ The Baseball Chronicle - Fake Players, Real Excitement! (Dynasty Thread) - Website Other Leagues: Alternate Universe Football (1983) Blood 'n Guts Football (Retro Fictional) My MLBlog

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