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1910 Retirees
The following players turned in their equipment for the last time as Arizona League players. Some notable pitchers hanging it up this season, including the league's only pitcher to throw a perfect game. Some notes on some of the guys below (one of my favorite parts of this dynasty is checking the retired players after each season and seeing what interesting stories I'll find): Kitty Bransfield retires ... Pete Childs retires ... Wid Conroy retires ... Fred Crolius retires ... Harry Davis retires ... Charlie Dexter retires ... Bill Dinneen retires ... Joe Dolan retires ... Bill Duggleby retires ... Frank Foutz retires ... Ned Garvin retires ... Phil Geier retires ... Burt Hart retires ... Charlie Hemphill retires ... Bert Husting retires ... Frank Isbell retires ... Jim Jones retires ... Willie Keeler retires ... Cliff Blankenship retires ... Tacks Latimer retires ... Harry Lochhead retires ... Pat Moran retires ... Ed Murphy retires ... Jerry Nops retires ... Al Orth retires ... Heinie Peitz retires ... George Prentiss retires ... Tully Sparks retires ... Chick Stahl retires ... Dummy Taylor retires ... Jack Taylor retires ... Jake Volz retires ... Ernie Courtney retires ... Pep Deininger retires ... Patsy Dougherty retires ... Wiley Dunham retires ... Peaches Graham retires ... Alex Hardy retires ... Ham Iburg retires ... Henry Krug retires ... Jack Lundbom retires ... Dusty Miller retires ... Homer Smoot retires ... Art Williams retires ... Joe Marshall retires ... Jimmy Wiggs retires ... Joe Yeager retires ... Tom Doran retires ... Bob Hall retires ... Ike Rockenfield retires ... Bob Ganley retires ... Frank Oberlin retires ... Tom Mccarthy retires ... GCA: Jack Chesbro retires ... PRE: Gene Demontreville retires ... PRE: Chappie Mcfarland retires ... PRE: Joe Martin retires ... PRE: Kaiser Wilhelm retires ... SED: John Anderson retires ... SED: Harry Wolverton retires ... SED: Doc Reisling retires ... NOG: Ed Doheny retires ... TEM: Sam Leever retires ... TEM: Harvey Cushman retires ... TEM: Jim Mchale retires ... TOM: War Sanders retires ... TUC: Jesse Tannehill retires ... • Jack Taylor, the only player in the history of the Arizona League to pitch a perfect game, stepped out of the game with a career record of 139-140. His career ERA was 3.02. Interestingly, Mr. Perfect Game bounced around among four different teams. He threw his perfecto in 1901 with Nogales, then moved around to Lake Havasu/Carefree, Sedona and Yuma. He was 1-2 in the post-season. His best season record was 21-17 with Yuma in 1903. In 1906, he was 6-17 with Sedona and Lake Havasu. His 1.98 ERA in 1905 led the league... • Gene Demontreville was a starting shortstop on four AZL championship teams in Prescott. He finished with 1,400 career hits and batted .262 in the post-season with 54 hits in 206 plate appearances. He was named to two All-Star games. In 1902, he led the Southern League with 109 RBIs. • Chappie McFarland was reliable reserve pitcher/releiver for three Prescott championship teams, finishing with an 18-11 record with six saves. • Frank Foutz had a six RBI game for Tucson back in 1903... • Ned Garvin was traded six times after pitching for the Cactus Champion Payson Longhorns in 1901. He finished with 135 wins... • Frank Isbel spent his entire career with Jerome, winning three Field General awards. He had seven RBIs in a game in 1908 ... • "Wee Willie" Keeler had five hits in four different games with Cottonwood from 1902-04... • Catcher Heinie Peitz of Kayenta had six hits against Cottonwood in 1902. He only had one RBI, though, for his effort... • RF Chick Stahl finished with 1,357 career hits, playing his entire career in Yuma. He batted .302 in the postseason, with five doubles, three homers and two triples in 85 post-season ABs. He also won three Field General awards... • LF Homer Smoot won three Field General awards with Kayenta and Yuma... • Pitcher Jack Chesbro threw a no-hitter for Grand Canyon in 1901, the first year of the league. He was a four-time All-Star. His career record 128-94... • John Anderson once had a six-hit game for Sedona... • Pitcher Ed Doheny of Nogales pitched a no-hitter against Tombstone in 1907... • Pitcher Sam "Deacon" Leever is hanging it up after earning 182 wins for Tombstone and Tempe. He led the league with 400.1 innings pitched in 1901 and also had a league high six shutouts that season... • CF Jim McHale had a true cup-of-coffee experience in the AZL. He was drafted in 1908 and played four games with Tempe that season (never coming to bat). Injuries sidelined him the next two seasons and he stepped out of the game at age 34 before the 1911 campaign... • Pitcher Jesse Tannehill was the fourth overall player selected in the initial AZL draft in 1901. He won the 1902 Cactus Cup with Nogales then spent the rest of his career in Tucson, compiling a career record of 164-149...
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1911 Season Recap: Northern League
  Plenty of snow fell in the spring of 1911 in Northern Arizona, and two of the coldest cold-weather teams didn't mind one bit. Prescott and Flagstaff played very well at home, each winning 50+ games in their friendly confines, to win the top two spots in the NL. The Antelopes had the top pitching ERA in the NL (3.76) in what was a big season for offense, and the second-best home run numbers (87 total). 3B Germany Schaeffer roped 27 long balls. 1B Tim Jordan hit 21 and RF Danny Green mashed 18. Green also had a whopping 154 RBIs while batting .385. Green had a 31-game hitting streak going at one point. While the 34-year-old, who has been with Prescott since the dawn of the AZL, set a NL mark for RBIs, his average wasn't a new standard. Someone else broke that record in 1911. More on him below. Will Green and the 'Lopes get to hoist a fifth Cactus Champions Cup? Not if Flagstaff (which unveiled a new alternate logo this season) has anything to say about it. The Lumberjacks, fueled by their star hitter, OF Sam Crawford, should make for a great opponent in the NL Division Championship. Crawford had another banner season — .329 average, 17 homers and 101 RBIs. Probably not good enough to fend off Green for Big Stick honors but solid nonetheless. These "old guys" can still play, eh? Pitcher Fred Bebee had 25 wins for the 'Jacks. 2B Steve Yerks had 117 RBIs. Here are the complete standings: Code:
Team W L PCT GB Pyt.Rec Diff Home Away XInn 1Run M# Streak Last10 Prescott 92 70 .568 - 98-64 -6 50-31 42-39 14-6 28-21 * L2 4-6 Flagstaff 88 74 .543 4.0 94-68 -6 52-29 36-45 7-11 22-26 - W2 4-6 Grand Canyon 83 79 .512 9.0 79-83 4 46-35 37-44 11-6 25-22 - W4 6-4 Cottonwood 82 80 .506 10.0 79-83 3 43-38 39-42 5-7 27-21 - W1 3-7 Kayenta 79 83 .488 13.0 76-86 3 42-39 37-44 5-12 14-26 - L5 5-5 Payson 79 83 .488 13.0 80-82 -1 43-38 36-45 9-9 29-23 - L1 8-2 Jerome 78 84 .481 14.0 79-83 -1 38-43 40-41 5-5 23-25 - L1 5-5 Sedona 67 95 .414 25.0 62-100 5 35-46 32-49 8-8 21-25 - W1 5-5
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1911 Season Recap - Southern League
  After years of being among the cellar dwellers in the Arizona League, Tucson is on to something special. For the second straight year, the Saguaros have made the playoffs, and for the first time the team from the Old Pueblo won a regular season championship. This one was really no contest, as Tucson breezed through the final week. The addition of CF Ty Cobb six years back is really starting to reap dividends now for Tucson. He batted .360 this season (fourth year out of six as the SL batting champ) with 106 RBIs and 57 stolen bases. Cobb had a six-hit game against Yuma in July. Tucson had two other guys in the top 10 for average, 2B Heinie Zimmerman (.322) and SS Art Fletcher (.319). 3B Frank Baker batted .307 with 117 RBIs. Can you say firepower at the plate? George McQuillan led the pitchers with a 27-10 record. Bisbee will be a tough out in the playoffs for sure. The Prospectors had an even more potent offense at times, hitting a league best 108 homers. Five guys — 2B Harry Arndt, 3B Sammy Strang, SS Kid Elberfeld, CF Vin Campbell and RF Walt McCredie— had 101 or more RBIs. Can you say more fireworks at the plate? This playoff series should be a blast (pun attended), though there are some solid pitchers as well. Bisbee's Harry Gaspar led the SL with 29 wins. This will be Bisbee's sixth trip to the AZL playoffs in 11 seasons. The Prospectors have only been to the championship series once, though, beating Flagstaff in 1905... Here are the full SL standings for 1911: Code:
Team W L PCT GB Pyt.Rec Diff Home Away XInn 1Run M# Streak Last10 Tucson 95 67 .586 - 97-65 -2 52-29 43-38 8-7 19-16 * W1 5-5 Bisbee 90 72 .556 5.0 94-68 -4 48-33 42-39 10-4 25-21 - L1 5-5 Nogales 84 78 .519 11.0 83-79 1 48-33 36-45 8-2 21-22 - W1 3-7 Yuma 82 80 .506 13.0 76-86 6 42-39 40-41 8-5 28-17 - L1 7-3 Phoenix 77 85 .475 18.0 76-86 1 34-47 43-38 8-8 21-20 - W2 6-4 Carefree 74 88 .457 21.0 72-90 2 34-47 40-41 2-7 22-26 - L4 4-6 Tempe 74 88 .457 21.0 77-85 -3 36-45 38-43 1-9 20-27 - L1 5-5 Tombstone 72 90 .444 23.0 73-89 -1 40-41 32-49 4-7 18-25 - W1 5-5 |
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1911 Division Playoffs
The Northern League Prescott Antelopes beat Flagstaff Lumberjacks, 4-1 On paper, this looks like a blowout of a series. But three of Prescott's four wins came by one run. The Antelopes needed 15 innings to get past the Lumberjacks in the opener, 3-2. Flag led 2-1 after five innings, then Prescott tied it in the bottom of the eighth. Finally, in the 15th inning Prescott won the marathon game on one of the most boring plays in baseball -- the sac fly. Danny Green had the honors, completing a nice day for him (3-for-5 at the plate). Pitcher Russ Ford got game MVP honors but didn't get the win, even though he pitched 14.2 innings. Reliever Mike O'Neill got the "W" by throwing just two pitches in relief for the final out in the top of the 15th. Ford had thrown 196 pitches but coaches didn't think had 197 in him. That's baseball! Prescott also won Games Two and Three (10-6 and 6-5). Flagstaff exploded for a 12-3 win in Game Four, but the 'Lopes closed things out with a 7-6 decision in Game Five. Flag led 6-5 going into the ninth inning, but the Antelopes scored twice to close out the series. Leftfielder George "Hickory" Jackson notched the clutch hit of the night — a two-out triple with two men on in the top of the ninth. It was definitely a series for the offensive-minded. Flagstaff OF Sam Crawford batted .333 in the five games (8 of 24). 3B Harry Steinfeldt and RF Harry "Deer Foot" Bay both batted .409 for the 'Jacks. Hickory Jackson was hot the entire series, finishing with a .455 average and nine RBIs. A nice line for a leadoff hitter. He had four hits in Game Two. Wow! Prescott, making its fifth appearance in the Cactus Champions Cup, has never lost once reaching the AZL's pinnacle series... The Southern League Bisbee outlasts Tucson, 4-3 Of course, Bisbee has never lost in the Cactus Champions Cup series either. The Prospectors have made only one trip to the AZL finals but won it all in 1905. The 1911 SL Division championship was a back-and-forth slugfest. Bisbee finally won Game Seven by a 3-2 score, plating the clinching run in the top of the 10th on an RBI single by catcher Bill "Rough" Carrigan. Ty Cobb kept Tucson in contention with three hits, but in the end it wasn't enough. Cobb had a great series, though, batting .536 with seven RBIs. He was Mr. Smooth at the plate -- and clutch. Of his 15 hits, six were doubles. His last hit of the series set a new Southern League record for hits in a season at 229. Vin Campbell, a 23-year-old centerfielder, was Bisbee's top offensive player. He batted .393 in the seven-game set, with 10 RBIs and two home runs. Doc Hoblitzel, a 22-year-old first baseman, was another young gun -- batting .370 with seven RBIs. The future looks bright for the Prospectors. Other scores from the series: Bisbee wins Game One (3-0), Game Four (9-2) and Game Five (6-5 — rallying from 5-3 deficit in the bottom of the ninth). Tucson took Games Two (5-4), Three (14-10 — four runs in the top of the ninth) and Six (8-5). The stage is set for the 1911 Cactus Champions Cup. Prescott vs. Bisbee. |
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1911 Cactus Champions Cup
 Fans stream in by the thousands to see Game Five of the Cactus Champions Cup in Bisbee. Bisbee beats defending champion Antelopes The mountain mining town of Bisbee hoisted the Cactus Champions Cup for the second time in its history, fending off perennial power Prescott four games to one. Three of the Prospectors' wins came by one run, including the decisive fifth game, where Bisbee scored in the bottom of the ninth to break a 7-7 tie. Second baseman Harry Arndt drove home what would be the clinching score with an RBI double, scoring The Tabasco Kid (36-year-old SS Kid Elberfeld), who had reached a few batters earlier. Eberfeld just barely beat the throw to the plate, knocking over Prescott's catcher and touching one of the wildest celebrations Bisbee has ever seen (fireworks, alcohol, an all-night party, etc.) This was the first time in five tries that Prescott failed to bring home the ultimate league prize. Bisbee improved to 2-0 in the Cactus Champions Cup series. Bisbee set the tone for the series with a 6-5 win in Game One. RF Walt McCredie had a 4-for-4 game, including an early home run, two doubles and four RBIs. Prescott won Game Two 7-4, but the rest of the series belonged to the mining boys from the South. Harry Gasper threw a two-hitter in Game Three, helping Bisbee win 7-2. The Prospectors prevailed in Game Four 1-0, getting another gem of a pitching performance, this time from Smokey Joe Wood (he gave up six hits). The Prospectors' lone run was another walk-off hit in the bottom of the ninth, a solid base hit by McCredie. Prescott had a 6-0 lead after its at-bats in the top of the sixth in Game Five. But Bisbee battled back with four runs in the bottom of the sixth, two in the seventh and one each in the eighth and ninth. What a finish!! Hail to the Prospectors, the AZL's 11th champion!! Past Champions 1901: Payson beat Nogales 4 to 2 1902: Nogales beat Grand Canyon 4 to 1 1903: Prescott beat Jerome 4 to 2 1904: Prescott beat Grand Canyon 4 to 2 1905: Bisbee beat Flagstaff 4 to 3 1906: Prescott beat Grand Canyon 4 to 3 1907: Flagstaff beat Tombstone 4 to 3 1908: Cottonwood beat Yuma 4 to 1 1909: Grand Canyon beat Yuma 4 to 3 1910: Prescott beat Nogales 4 to 1 1911: Bisbee beat Prescott 4 to 1
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Awesome pic! Where'd you dig that up at?
The dynasty continues to be one of my favorites, btw. I look forward to when Yuma actually wins the whole ball of wax. Maybe they'll be the lucky ones to get Babe Ruth when he shows up in a few years. |
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1911 Player Awards
 Payson's Tris Speaker, shunned for the Big Stick Award in the Northern League, promises greater things in 1912. (see below) Top Hurler Awards It's fitting that pitchers from the two best teams in the AZL win this year's honors. Jack "Chief" Warhop was named the Northern's Top Hurler. While he wasn't much of a factor in the post-season (1-1 in two starts, 6+ ERA), he put up fabulous numbers during the regular season. Warhop compiled an ERA of 3.14, going 29-11 in 40 starts. He fanned 136 while giving up 330 hits in 355.2 innings. He ended up 3rd in the Northern in ERA and 1st in wins. (Chief was pretty decent at the plate as well. He had 33 hits and six doubles this season, batting around .235.) The Southern Top Hurler Award winner went to Bisbee right-hander Harry Gaspar. After two sub-.500 seasons to start his career, he certainly earned it, striking fear into hitters all year long. His ERA of 3.01 helped him to a 29-11 record this year. He struck out 135 and walked 94 in 362.1 innings. Harry pitched 3 shutouts and 37 complete games. He was 1st in the Southern in ERA and also 1st in wins. Gaspar may have been Bisbee's post-season MVP as well, going 4-0 with a 1.23 ERA for the champion Prospectors. He allowed five runs in 36+ innings. He was 6-1 in August and 6-1 in September/October. Nice Big Stick Awards There was outrage in Payson when the NL Big Stick voting was announced. If there Internet message boards back in the early 1900s, they certainly would have been jammed with trash talking. The Longhorns didn't make the post-season but believed their star, Tris Speaker, was a shoe-in to win his first Big Stick honor. The 23-year-old CF batted an amazing .398 (setting a new NL record) and led the league in doubles (59), on-base percentage (.465), slugging percentage (.577), OPS (1.042), runs created (171.4) and runs/27 outs (11.6). He was second in total hits (241), second in runs (133) and 10th in RBIs (100). Yet Speaker finished second in the Big Stick balloting to Prescott's Danny Green. (This voting further fueled the Antelopes evolving into the Yankees of the league in terms of fan support. You either love 'em or hate 'em.) Now, Green's season was pretty stellar. He hit a robust .385 with 244 hits in 634 at bats. He drove in 154 runs and had a slugging percentage of .544. He was 2nd in the Northern in batting, 4th in homeruns and 1st in RBI. But Green was second in the minds of many fans of the Arizona League in terms of Big Stick status. Maybe winning more games played in Green's favor? Prescott won the NL and Payson was way back. The Southern League balloting was a little easier. Ty Cobb's great season convinced the voters that he was the worthy. Cobb went 229 for 636 (.360) this season, hitting 7 longballs and driving in 106 runs. He scored 114 runs on his own. He was 1st in the Southern in batting and 8th in RBI. After six seasons, Cobb has a career average of .315 with 1,099 total hits ... Best of all, for Saguaros' fans anyway, Tucson has been on the upswing since his arrival in the Old Pueblo... Rookie of the Year Awards Prescott certainly cleaned up on big honors this season. The Northern Rookie of the Year winner went to Antelope leftfielder George Jackson. This year Jackson drove in 79 and scored 144 runs while batting .323 with 6 longballs. The 1911 Southern Rookie of the Year winner hails from Nogales. Shoeless Joe Jackson (!!) put together impressive numbers for a rookie en route to winning the first major award of his career. Jackson, age 22, hit 12 longballs this year while batting .349. He added 46 doubles, along with 124 runs scored. He was 2nd in the Southern in batting and 8th in RBI! Field General Awards Northern Field General Award Winners: Pitcher: Lefty Leifield (PAY) Catcher: Ted Easterly (PAY) First Base: Jake Daubert (FLG) Second Base: Larry Doyle (CTW) Third Base: Germany Schaefer (PRE) Shortstop: Otis Johnson (FLG) Leftfield: Bert Daniels (GCA) Centerfield: Tris Speaker (PAY) - hey, he got an award! Rightfield: Danny Green (PRE) - but so did he... Southern Field General Award Winners: Pitcher: Doc White (CAR) Catcher: Bill Carrigan (BIS) First Base: Dick Hoblitzel (BIS) Second Base: Amby Mcconnell (NOG) Third Base: Frank Baker (TUC) Shortstop: Freddy Parent (YUM) Leftfield: Bob Bescher (TUC) Centerfield: George Browne (TEM) Rightfield: Walt Mccredie (BIS) |
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1911 News & Notes
Editing the Record Book • Big Stick winner Danny Green of Prescott set new NL records with 154 RBIs, 244 hits and a 31-game hitting streak. Tris Speaker's 59 doubles also was a new NL best. Other NL records to fall in 1911 included runs (144, George Jackson of Prescott), strikeouts (132 Max Carey of Grand Canyon), stolen bases (81 by Hans Lobert of Cottonwood), rookie hits (203, George Jackson of Prescott) and rookie RBI (116, Steve Yerkes of Cottonwood). On the pitching front, three new NL records were broken: strike outs in a game (15, Orval Overall of Grand Canyon), walks (14 - yikes - by Frank Lange of Jerome) and season strikeouts (321 by Overall). The Southern League's top average remains .380, set by Prescott's Jesse Burkett in 1901 (back when the 'Lopes were an SL team). Sammy Strang of Bisbee set a new RBI mark with 118. Ty Cobb's 229 hits was a new SL best. Bert Conn's 60 doubles for Tombstone killed the old SL record (sorry, bad verb choice). Harry Arndt of Bisbee set a new mark with 127 runs scored. Vean Gregg of Carefree walked 198 batters this season, a new SL record (he was too carefree with his pitches -- sorry, bad again). Christy Mathewson of Phoenix struck out a record 301 people this season. What's My Address Again? Pitcher Vic Willis got traded three times in a single day in mid-July. He went from Sedona to Payson, from Payson to Yuma and from Yuma to Phoenix. He kept getting nervous every time a horse and rider would pull up to his cabin in Oak Creek Canyon with official papers in hand. Willis finished 16-18 on the season with a 4.24 ERA. Willis had a no-hitter in 1909 but may best be known for being traded seven times in his career (seven and counting?). Season Over Early Joe Tinker, Nogales shortstop, missed half the season after tearing a rotator cuff. He was having a great year, batting .290. Top Performances Flagstaff's Ed Walsh earns this year's Iron Pitcher Award for going 15.2 innings against Cottonwood. He threw 202 pitches, but lost the game, 2-1. Big Ed had 11 Ks and gave up 10 hits. The score was 1-1 after four innings and stayed that way until the 16th... Prescott 1B Tim Jordan had eight RBIs, four hits and two homers in a game against Kayenta in late May. Final Season Leaders At a Glance TOP 5 in BATTING AVG : .398 Tris Speaker(PAY,NL) .385 Danny Green(PRE,NL) .360 Ty Cobb(TUC,SL) .349 Joe Jackson( NOG,SL) .347 Harry Wolter(CTW) TOP 5 in HOMERUNS : 27 Germany Schaefer(PRE,NL) 24 Jim Jackson(CTW,NL) 23 Gavvy Cravath(CAR,SL) 21 Tim Jordan(PRE,NL) 21 Harry Arndt(BIS,SL) TOP 5 in RBI : 154 Danny Green(PRE,NL) 137 Tim Jordan(PRE,NL) 123 Jim Jackson(CTW,NL) 120 Art Hoelskoetter(PAY) 118 Sammy Strang(BIS,SL) TOP 5 in ERA : 2.99 Bill Burns(TUC,SL CAR PAY) 3.01 Harry Gaspar(BIS,SL) 3.10 Howie Camnitz(JER SED) 3.13 George Mcquillan(TUC,SL) 3.14 Jack Warhop(PRE,NL) TOP 5 in WINS : 29 Jack Warhop(PRE,NL) 29 Harry Gaspar(BIS,SL) 29 Jack Coombs(CTW,NL) 27 George Mcquillan(TUC,SL) 26 Howie Camnitz(JER SED) TOP 5 in SAVES : 8 Alex Malloy(CAR) 8 Jack Ryan(GCA,NL) 7 George Disch(BIS,SL) 6 Harley Young(FLG,NL) 6 Mike Lynch(CAR) |
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Since he has been mentioned, I will go ahead and ask the standard Babe Ruth questions (and sorry if you covered this already, I was lazy and decided not to do any research). Assuming that you want to share this information with us right now. How are you going to handle Babe Ruth? Are you going to have two players or just one?
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I'm playing an older version of OOTP and am using one of Ankit's DBs. I remember reading when I downloaded it that the DB had split Ruth into two players - George Ruth the pitcher and Babe Ruth the right fielder. I decided early on that I would go ahead and let it be two players and call them twin brothers or something in my storyline. So when it came time to draft in 1915, there was George Ruth the pitcher ready to go. I figured Ruth didn't have enough major league at-bats at that point for his alter ego to come aboard yet. But in 1916, I went to do my draft and no Babe Ruth the RF. I wondered then if maybe I goofed in some way or if maybe this database didn't really have him split into two players. I panicked a bit as I hadn't really backed things up for a few seasons. I really wanted Babe Ruth as a hitter, so I created my own Babe, using his career numbers as my basis. He was drafted in 1916, ending up in the same league but not with the same team as his "bro." So then 1917 comes and goes, and 1918 rolls around and I get ready for my draft, and there among the players ready to be picked is Babe Ruth from the database! I guess he still didn't have enough at-bats, so his entry year was 1918 instead. So now what? Three Babes in the Arizona League? The Ruth Triplets? I pondered leaving this third Babe in my league and naming him "Gabe Ruth," and seeing how the dueling Babes would end up in the history books. But that got a bit ridiculous. So I did edit his ratings way down and in 1918 will introduce my first fictional player into the game. I'll leave that story line as a mystery for now ... Anyways, hope that all makes sense. Do the newer versions of OOTP solve this problem of pitchers also being position players? Another reason to upgrade if it does... Az
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1911-12 Winter Meetings
 Thousands of people from across Arizona — players, fans, coaches and team officials — streamed into Bisbee by the thousands for the mining town's second hosting of the Winter Meetings. Bisbee, champs of the AZL in 1911, proved to be a great host, though things got off to an ominous start when sirens wailed on the first day throughout the town. An accident had happened at the Queen Mine. It was a good thing many of the strong men from the league were around. They worked well into the night to extract people who had been trapped after one shaft suffered a partial collapse deep inside the Mule Mountains. Fortunately, there were no major injuries. The scene brought back horrid memories for commissioner Doc Victory, who lost his leg in such an incident many years ago. Once that commotion died down, the league turned to official business. Actually, the two biggest items this year weren't exactly baseball related but would affect the league greatly. First, Arizona was set to officially join the United States on Feb. 14, 1912 (the 48th state). Also, there was talk of the state going dry in 1912. Dubbed the "Noble Experiment", legislation was set to be passed that would ban the sale of all liquor throughout Arizona (setting the stage for a constitutional amendment to make prohibition nationwide in 1920). League officials wondered what this would do for business on game days, especially in places like Whiskey Row in Prescott and in the more lively locales like Jerome that prided themselves on having plenty of "spirit." Owners publicly talked of having to fold their franchises if tickets sales dropped too much because people weren't interested in attending "dry" games. Victory put on a positive face and reminded people that ultimately the game would continue to sell itself, just like in the past 11 years. Secretly, he too worried about the impact of the statewide prohibition... |
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1911 Retirees
The following players put away their bats and gloves following the 1911 season. Some notes on some of the notable retirees follows below: Jimmy Barrett retires ... Erve Beck retires ... Bill Bergen retires ... Curt Bernard retires ... Ed Bruyette retires ... Charlie Buelow retires ... Bill Cristall retires ... Pop Dillon retires ... Cozy Dolan retires ... Bill Donovan retires ... Hobe Ferris retires ... Bill Friel retires ... Dave Fultz retires ... Charlie Hickman retires ... Sam Brown retires ... Harry Howell retires ... Jay Hughes retires ... Cowboy Jones retires ... Joe Kelley retires ... Fred Ketchum retires ... Billy Maloney retires ... Jack Mcaleese retires ... Roscoe Miller retires ... Doc Nance retires ... Jack Powell retires ... Joe Rickert retires ... Claude Ritchey retires ... George Barclay retires ... Jimmy Slagle retires ... Jack Slattery retires ... Len Swormstedt retires ... Gene Wright retires ... Bob Blewett retires ... Jack Calhoun retires ... Ed Hughes retires ... Rube Kisinger retires ... Fred Abbott retires ... Charlie Carr retires ... Charlie Moran retires ... Champ Osteen retires ... Grant Thatcher retires ... Gus Thompson retires ... Jiggs Donahue retires ... Charlie Jaeger retires ... Admiral Schlei retires ... Sam Woodruff retires ... John Godwin retires ... Homer Hillebrand retires ... Del Howard retires ... Ben Koehler retires ... Charlie Starr retires ... Charlie Graham retires ... Roy Hartzell retires ... Irish Mcilveen retires ... FLG: Irv Young retires ... GCA: Cy Seymour retires ... GCA: Myron Grimshaw retires ... GCA: Johnny Siegle retires ... PAY: Jack O'brien retires ... CAR: Lew Drill retires ... TOM: Bob Spade retires ... TUC: Bob Wicker retires ... TUC: Ed Killian retires ... • Curt Bernard, a right fielder, had just 11 major league at-bats and two hits after getting drafted by Prescott in the 20th round in 1901. He spent the next six seasons in the minors, then the next two out of the game because no one was willing to take him. Finally, he saw the light and hung it up following the 1911 campaign (for some reason, I'm intrigued by guys like this...) • Pitcher "Wild Bill' Donovan won 173 games with Prescott, Phoenix and Tempe. The four-time all-star won two Cactus Cups with the Antelopes... • Pitcher Cowboy "Bronco" Jones threw a no-hitter in 1907 while with Kayenta. A few weeks later he had a 15-strikeout game for the Turquoise Warriors against Jerome. After an 18-11 start in 1901, Cowboy faded a bit and finished with a career record of 59-44 with two saves... • CF Joe Kelley finished with 1,553 hits, playing his entire career in Phoenix. He led the SL with 37 doubles in 1907 and led the league in runs with 95 in 1905... • Pitcher Roscoe "Roxy" Miller only spent three years in the AZL's major leagues after getting drafted by Flagstaff in 1901. He threw a no-hitter for the Lumberjacks in '02, but then spent most of the rest of his oft-injured career in the minors, trying to recapture the magic of his no-no feat against Payson early in his career. His final line: 32-49 with a 3.66 ERA... • LF George "Deer Foot" Barclay was a part of all four of Prescott's Cactus Champions Cup seasons... • Reliever Bob Blewett (who has a terrible name for a pitcher) retired with a 3-9 career record and four saves. There is no record of how many saves Blewett blew in his time on the hill... • SS Champ Osteen never won a championship, playing his entire career in Tempe, who never made the AZL's championship series... • Of 2B Sam Woodruff's six career hits at the big league level, two were triples and one was a double ... • Pitcher Irv "Young Cy" Young finished his career 91-70, playing for Tucson, Flagstaff, Phoenix and then Flagstaff again. Young was Tucson's first pick in the 1905 draft and won Rookie of the Year honors that season with a 23-16 record. Though he won a championship with Flagstaff, injuries plagued his career. He was 1-5 in post-season appearances in 1906-07 with a 5.88 ERA. • RF Cy Seymour had a nice career with the Grand Canyon River Runners. He finished with 1,524 career hits, a .268 lifetime average and hitting streaks of 20, 21 and 22 games. He won an AZL title with the 'Runners in 1909... |
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02-26-2007, 01:03 PM
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1912 Player Draft
Pitching again was at a premium as teams restocked their rosters for the 1912 campaign. Hats off to Bill Steen, this year's No. 1 pick. Steen is off to Sedona. The first 20 picks were all pitchers. A player named Heinie brings up the rear in the seventh round, appropriately enough... Round 1: Sedona pick: P Bill Steen Tombstone pick: P Hugh Bedient Carefree pick: P Hank Robinson Tempe pick: P George Baumgardner Phoenix pick: P Tom Seaton Jerome pick: P Marty O'toole Payson pick: P Earl Yingling Kayenta pick: P Larry Cheney Yuma pick: P Dan Griner Cottonwood pick: P Rube Benton Grand Canyon pick: P Byron Houck Nogales pick: P Jeff Tesreau Flagstaff pick: P Boardwalk Brown Bisbee pick: P Harry Moran Prescott pick: P Gene Dale Tucson pick: P Joe Engel Round 2 : Sedona pick: P Frank Allen Tombstone pick: P Jimmy Lavender Carefree pick: P George Davis Tempe pick: P Eppa Rixey Phoenix pick: 2B Del Pratt Jerome pick: 2B Baldy Louden Payson pick: 3B Del Paddock Kayenta pick: 3B John Kelleher Yuma pick: P Ed Warner Cottonwood pick: RF Gus Williams Grand Canyon pick: CF Tex Mcdonald Nogales pick: 2B Ray Morgan Flagstaff pick: 2B Lee Magee Bisbee pick: CF Amos Strunk Prescott pick: 1B Babe Borton Tucson pick: 2B Bill Kenworthy Round 3 : Sedona pick: P Frank Harter Tombstone pick: P Lefty James Carefree pick: 2B Morrie Rath Tempe pick: P Bert Humphries Phoenix pick: CF Ed Mensor Jerome pick: RF Danny Moeller Payson pick: 3B Marty Krug Kayenta pick: RF Eddie Murphy Yuma pick: P Wheezer Dell Cottonwood pick: 1B Joe Agler Grand Canyon pick: 2B George Cutshaw Nogales pick: LF Ward Miller Flagstaff pick: 3B Frank O'rourke Bisbee pick: 3B Eddie Foster Prescott pick: C Otto Miller Tucson pick: P Willie Adams Round 4 : Sedona pick: CF Buddy Ryan Tombstone pick: C Earl Blackburn Carefree pick: 3B Red Smith Tempe pick: LF Ted Cather Phoenix pick: SS Buck Weaver Jerome pick: P Buddy Napier Payson pick: P Charlie Wheatley Kayenta pick: 3B Enos Kirkpatrick Yuma pick: 2B Joe Mathes Cottonwood pick: P Rube Peters Grand Canyon pick: C Ivey Wingo Nogales pick: LF Howie Shanks Flagstaff pick: 1B Doc Johnston Bisbee pick: SS Bob Fisher Prescott pick: 1B Bunny Brief Tucson pick: 3B Charlie Deal Round 5 : Sedona pick: SS Ken Nash Tombstone pick: RF Herbie Moran Carefree pick: 3B Howard Baker Tempe pick: 3B Ossie Vitt Phoenix pick: CF Pete Knisely Jerome pick: CF Jimmie Savage Payson pick: P Tommy Thompson Kayenta pick: RF Wally Rehg Yuma pick: P Roy Walker Cottonwood pick: P Rube Marshall Grand Canyon pick: CF Dutch Sterrett Nogales pick: CF Wally Mattick Flagstaff pick: C Harry Chapman Bisbee pick: C Walt Kuhn Prescott pick: 3B John Dodge Tucson pick: P Maury Kent Round 6 : Sedona pick: C Ed Burns Tombstone pick: CF Gil Whitehouse Carefree pick: C Pinch Thomas Tempe pick: SS Jack Martin Phoenix pick: CF Pat Maloney Jerome pick: P George Mcconnell Payson pick: 1B Ed Miller Kayenta pick: LF La rue Kirby Yuma pick: P Walt Dickson Cottonwood pick: P Rudy Sommers Grand Canyon pick: C Hick Cady Nogales pick: C Jack Onslow Flagstaff pick: P George Boehler Bisbee pick: P Phil Redding Prescott pick: C Frank Crossin Tucson pick: P Jerry Akers Round 7 : Sedona pick: P Lore Bader Tombstone pick: SS Bill Stumpf Carefree pick: 1B Eddie Onslow Tempe pick: P Walt Johnson Phoenix pick: P Paul Musser Jerome pick: P Hank Ritter Payson pick: C Walt Alexander Kayenta pick: C Brad Kocher Yuma pick: P Willie Jensen Cottonwood pick: P Roy Crabb Grand Canyon pick: P Fred Lamline Nogales pick: RF Heinie Jantzen |
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