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Old 05-16-2010, 01:35 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Wow, talk about a major road trip to play the Japanese clubs. Good stuff.
Yeah, I never really like to do it because it's not really realistic. But...the Tokyo Comets just sounded like too good a name to resist. And moving the Creamers to become the Braves was kind of funny to me.

As was the storyline of bringing them back, since I really enjoy the name.
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SCENARIO TWO: THE EXPANSION YEAR

The Milwaukee Creamers and Mendocino Kingfishers (Ukiah, CA) will be joining the Federal League.

My task will be to steer them through the first season, by setting them up with the best players I can in the expansion draft.

Then, my task will be to manage one of the two expansion teams for the year as their GM and attempt to get them a winning record. I will be restricted to making a maximum of five trades during the off-season, which if you've read me is no easy feat.

I'm going to take over the Milwaukee Creamers, mostly because the storyline of having the new Creamers coming back to town sounds like a fun idea to me, because the fans are going to demand a winner from the start since the old Creamers were good when they left.

So that's where we are next. If you have any ideas, feel free to post them. Should the new Creamers attempt to see if they can pry Tommy Barton out of Japan? Or should the new team try to establish itself out of shadow of the old Creamers?

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Old 05-17-2010, 04:53 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I made the cardinal sin of having the game crash on me when I was deleting this strange ghost player in the retired player section after I'd run the season, but before it could save or backup anything good. So now I think my league is officially farked. I could go backwards to my older iterations of the league (like the ones I've posted on the web) but that'd be sacrificing quite a bit of history and I'm not sure I want to do that.

So I'm considering starting over with the same amount of teams or a more perfect setup, starting with OOTP11 and trying to see if I can import the same players into this new league if I set it up exactly the same way at least to start. Because if I could salvage my current generation of guys, that'd be awesome.

If not, well...I guess I'll be starting over to generate another set of history. Which probably isn't the worse thing in the world, especially now that I know to do it. But it's sort of sad, because I had a really good run going there.

I'll let you know what I figure out.
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:30 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Ok, it's official. My league is toast. What happens is, since the season didn't officially end, the stats from that year are still there and won't clear. When that happens, they'll just keep cycling and the year never turns over. It's sort of ridiculous, but it's a perpetual OOTP problem that you can't really fix. And I didn't backup because well...I had the need for speed.

Sooooo...that means, I'm going to have to start over with a completely new universe, which means I'll need to decide what year I want to start it. Or go back to my quickstart so I don't lose all of my history entirely. I'm leaning towards that, because at least that way I could keep the continuity of the history over the past several hundred years. It'll suck to lose guys like Tommy Barton and others to the annals of history, but I guess I could go recreate them if I was feeling like it.

It'll be interesting to see what direction I take things now that I essentially get a second chance at the history though, because I made some missteps over the past few years with moving too many teams and stuff, so I guess there is that.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:31 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I went back to 2012 and restarted from the beginning of the quickstart that I uploaded and released to everyone else. A smart decision in retrospect, huh?

I'm still sort of figuring out how I want to play, but what I've done so far is replace a few of the franchises with ones I liked from my recent sims (Milwaukee Creamers come to mind, as well as the two Japanese franchises, adding to them two Aussie teams too...) and have first off simmed a few years into the future.

I'm about to sim the 2019 season and my tentative idea (as I type this) is to start with the 2020 season and do something. What, I have no idea. There are 36 teams, I haven't expanded from the initial setup and I don't know if I will yet.

The two leagues are the Nationwide League (NL) and the Allied League (AL).


Here are your league champs since 2012:

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2012: Cleveland Broncs def. Colorado Gold Sox
2013: Philadelphia Quakers def. Detroit Robins
2014: Rio Grande Roadrunners def. San Francisco Peanuts
2015: Colorado Gold Sox def. Detroit Robins
2016: San Francisco Peanuts def. Pittsburgh Yellowjackets
2017: Kansas City Scouts def. Jersey City Mammoths
2018: New York Knights def. Colorado Gold Sox
Which means we haven't had a team repeat as champions since the 1994-1996 Kansas City Blue Sox (now Scouts) who won three in a row en route to six straight AL pennants (and four titles overall during that stretch.)

I also do regular backups now.

I'll probably start a new thread for the next iteration of the dynasty because it might be confusing for someone to start at the beginning and then pick up the league when we go back in time.
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:03 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Here's the 2019 regular season standings:

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Nationwide League Standings
Eastern Division	W	L	PCT	GB
Wooster Wrens		96	66	.593	-
Buffalo Brothers	91	71	.562	5.0
Jersey City Mammoths	85	77	.525	11.0
Hartford Gothams	75	87	.463	21.0
Boston Yanks		72	90	.444	24.0
Philadelphia Quakers	70	92	.432	26.0

Central Division	W	L	PCT	GB
Minneapolis Millers	90	72	.556	-
Chicago Redbirds	88	74	.543	2.0
Eau Claire Paws		80	82	.494	10.0
Milwaukee Creamers	77	85	.475	13.0
Indianapolis Terriers	71	91	.438	19.0
Charlotte Hornets	63	99	.389	27.0

Western Division	W	L	PCT	GB
Colorado Gold Sox	99	63	.611	-
Los Angeles Aztecs	97	65	.599	2.0
Nevada Silverhawks	89	73	.549	10.0
San Francisco Peanuts	79	83	.488	20.0
Salt Lake City Elders	70	92	.432	29.0
Seattle Pilots		66	96	.407	33.0

Allied League Standings
Eastern Division	W	L	PCT	GB
Toronto Blueshirts	98	64	.605	-
New York Knights	95	67	.586	3.0
Miami Amigos		88	74	.543	10.0
Cleveland Broncs	86	76	.531	12.0
Brooklyn Originals	82	80	.506	16.0
Montreal Maroons	72	90	.444	26.0

Central Division	W	L	PCT	GB
Kansas City Scouts	89	73	.549	-
Detroit Robins		87	75	.537	2.0
Pittsburgh Yellowjackets86	76	.531	3.0
Rio Grande Roadrunners	75	87	.463	14.0
Dallas Haymakers	64	98	.395	25.0
Tupelo Moonshiners	64	98	.395	25.0

Western Division	W	L	PCT	GB
Tokyo Comets		95	67	.586	-
Hollywood Stars		84	78	.519	11.0
Victoria Cougars	84	78	.519	11.0
Osaka Braves		81	81	.500	14.0
Brisbane Wonder Workers	75	87	.463	20.0
Arizona Firecrackers	53	109	.327	42.0

As far as the team name changes, all of these moves occurred before I started the 2012 season, so basically these are the teams that deviate from the original quickstart file. No team was folded:


Baltimore Wrens became Wooster (OH) Wrens
Compton Brothers became Buffalo (NY) Brothers
New York Gothams became Hartford (CT) Gothams
St. Louis Terriers became Indianapolis (IN) Terriers
Washington Maroons became Montreal (QC) Maroons
Chicago Comets became Tokyo (JP) Comets
Atlanta Firecrackers became Arizona (Glendale, AZ) Firecrackers
El Paso Incredibles became Milwaukee (WI) Creamers
Portland Sockeyes became Osaka (JP) Braves
Hamilton Tigers became Jersey City (NJ) Mammoths
Monterrey Orioles became Brisbane (AUS) Wonder Workers
Victoria Cougars moved from Victoria, B.C., Canada to Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Here are the 2019 Playoffs in review:

NL DIVISION SERIES (BEST OF SEVEN)
Colorado def. Minneapolis 4-1
Wooster def. Los Angeles 4-1

AL DIVISION SERIES
Toronto def. Kansas City 4-3
Tokyo def. New York 4-3

NL CHAMPIONSHIP (BEST OF NINE)
Colorado def. Wooster 5-3

AL CHAMPIONSHIP
Toronto def. Tokyo 5-2

2019 FALL CLASSIC (BEST OF NINE)
Colorado def. Toronto 5-1

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The Gold Sox win their 2nd title in five years and second straight NL pennant. This was Wooster's first playoff appearance since 1992 when they still played in (South) Carolina, the franchise never played the playoffs while in Baltimore.
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As far as the cities are concerned, there are some cities that in my mind have a long fast-sim legacy because of my time with FOOL. So I try to move teams in my fictional leagues away from those places. Not always, but I tend to like to have balance between franchises/cities that I have a mental affinity for versus those that have cultivated an online league legacy to me.

That's why I sometimes will move teams, because part of why I play is the immersion of having connections to certain franchises and if it doesn't feel right, I have a hard time playing with those teams around. Which I know is a little weird, but it's always how I've played dating back to my super old dynasties (mostly over at OOTP rather than here...) with teams I cultivate over a period of time.

My plan is to retire the Colorado Gold Sox franchise, which I know seems weird given their recent titles, but for all intent and purposes the team is moving and the league left the Gold Sox name and colors and titles in Denver/Colorado Springs where the team has always been a la the Baltimore Ravens/Cleveland Browns.

Names we recognize, like Billy Chapel are still around and dominant, while there are other names that we don't who have picked up where their predecessors left off.

I've still got to figure out where to put the new team, but I'll come up with something eventually and go from there.
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NOVEMBER 13, 2019

Billionaire tycoon and software magnate Oliver Esmonde finalized his purchase of the Colorado Gold Sox. The franchise, in existence since 1812, has won 9 championships in their franchise history. But according to Nationwide League officials, Esmonde will not be permitted to take the Gold Sox name, colors or history with him when he moves the franchise to Twin Falls, Idaho for the 2020 season.

Esmonde has turned the sleepy Magic Valley outpost into his own personal playground afte founding his internet startup Verve there in 2008 and after an IPO, it made him one of the richest men in the world. He believed that baseball needed to be located in the state and was looking for a team to acquire and with the Gold Sox -- despite their success -- one of the cash poorest teams in baseball, they've always been vulernable to a move.

But at least NL officials have ensured the history will remain in Colorado, even if the players move elsewhere.

The new Twin Falls Magicians will begin play at Verve Stadium of Twin Falls next year.
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As far as the cities are concerned, there are some cities that in my mind have a long fast-sim legacy because of my time with FOOL. So I try to move teams in my fictional leagues away from those places. Not always, but I tend to like to have balance between franchises/cities that I have a mental affinity for versus those that have cultivated an online league legacy to me.

That's why I sometimes will move teams, because part of why I play is the immersion of having connections to certain franchises and if it doesn't feel right, I have a hard time playing with those teams around. Which I know is a little weird, but it's always how I've played dating back to my super old dynasties (mostly over at OOTP rather than here...) with teams I cultivate over a period of time.

My plan is to retire the Colorado Gold Sox franchise, which I know seems weird given their recent titles, but for all intent and purposes the team is moving and the league left the Gold Sox name and colors and titles in Denver/Colorado Springs where the team has always been a la the Baltimore Ravens/Cleveland Browns.

Names we recognize, like Billy Chapel are still around and dominant, while there are other names that we don't who have picked up where their predecessors left off.

I've still got to figure out where to put the new team, but I'll come up with something eventually and go from there.
I totally get it.

I have to say my least favorite team of your franchises which I know is one of your favorites it the Compton Brothers...now Buffalo Brothers.

Also, I think it was a hard sell on the Santa Maria Winemakers.

But I love the Chicago Comets now Tokyo Comets, the Colorado Gold Sox, the Green Bay Truckers, and most of the others.

Anyway, keep it up , I love reading about your dynasties.
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I totally get it.

I have to say my least favorite team of your franchises which I know is one of your favorites it the Compton Brothers...now Buffalo Brothers.

Also, I think it was a hard sell on the Santa Maria Winemakers.

But I love the Chicago Comets now Tokyo Comets, the Colorado Gold Sox, the Green Bay Truckers, and most of the others.

Anyway, keep it up , I love reading about your dynasties.
Thanks! You've always been a great fan and I appreciate you always reminding me of the older franchises, especially the ol' Green Bay Truckers! Way to blast back to the past with the original Winemakers. I actually gave that franchise to someone in FOOL when I was running the league, though they run them as the Napa Valley Winemakers and so I've never used it as a major league team ever again since then.

Glad you're digging the new Comets, the Tokyo moniker just fits so well with that, so I'm glad I did it.

Now I'm trying to come up with a new team, there'll be a twist with the story of the Magicians because I'm rethinking the whole deal to Twin Falls after all.

Thanks again for the support.
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I think after 200+ years of the same history, I might have a bit of fatigue with this particular universe. I like the premise, I just have been trying to get back into it and I'm sure that being busy isn't helping but....ultimately, it's not working for me right now.

I came up with an idea in the meantime. I went back to OOTP9 and ran across the original version of this. As it turned out, I only played 2 years in there before moving it to OOTP10 and so, I had this league when it first first started before things had evolved at all. Even before I created minors. There were 8 teams and one league and that was it.

So I brought that version into 10 and then into 11 and I'm going to delete the original league with just 3 years of history (1800-1802) and create an alternate universe, so the original players will be the same from the 1st three years and whoever might be on the reserve rosters but then the other 217 years or so will yield us an entirely different crop of players, along with their own histories and so forth. My thought?

Getting to 2020 like I am with the original league and then merging them into one league if possible. Could be interesting. The franchises in the new league will be entirely different than in the other league, with different histories, existing in different cities and everything. It's likely to be a smaller city league, because that'd make for a better eventual story.

We'll see.
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I think after 200+ years of the same history, I might have a bit of fatigue with this particular universe. I like the premise, I just have been trying to get back into it and I'm sure that being busy isn't helping but....ultimately, it's not working for me right now.

I came up with an idea in the meantime. I went back to OOTP9 and ran across the original version of this. As it turned out, I only played 2 years in there before moving it to OOTP10 and so, I had this league when it first first started before things had evolved at all. Even before I created minors. There were 8 teams and one league and that was it.

So I brought that version into 10 and then into 11 and I'm going to delete the original league with just 3 years of history (1800-1802) and create an alternate universe, so the original players will be the same from the 1st three years and whoever might be on the reserve rosters but then the other 217 years or so will yield us an entirely different crop of players, along with their own histories and so forth. My thought?

Getting to 2020 like I am with the original league and then merging them into one league if possible. Could be interesting. The franchises in the new league will be entirely different than in the other league, with different histories, existing in different cities and everything. It's likely to be a smaller city league, because that'd make for a better eventual story.

We'll see.
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