Pee Wee Reese goes crazy.....

H I Mcdonough · 06-11-2002, 04:08 PM

So I'm doing the now "token" replay of baseball history. I'm up to 1946, and Pee Wee Reese was traded to the Yankees at the tail end of 1945.

He finished 1945 with 15 dingers. Not too terribly out of control, even for Pee Wee Reese. However, in 1946 he goes nuts and hits 32 homers. I check his abilities, and he has morphed into a "brilliant" power hitter.

Anyone else seen any out-of-the-blue type developments like this?

Specs · 06-11-2002, 04:38 PM

How about Frankie Frisch going nuts in my little replay:



  YEAR   AVG HR RBI   G  AB   H 2B 3B   R SB CS  BB   K  OBP  SLG   TEAMS

  1921  .301 11  68 138 528 159 26  4  80  9  9  42  22 .353 .428   NY1

  1922  .289 10  76 147 560 162 21 11  87 13  7  40  27 .337 .420   NY1

  1923  .322 28 122 153 618 199 23 15 127 22 10  63  26 .385 .544   NY1,NL

  1924  .319 36 118 153 620 198 24  8 155 22 10  71  26 .389 .558   NY1,NL

  1925  .320 30 121 154 604 193 34 14 131 17  9  99  20 .415 .571   NY1,NL

  1926  .288 22  86 154 615 177 23 15 136 20  9  90  31 .379 .481   NY1

  1927  .357 41 147 154 602 215 21 14 154 23  8  90  22 .441 .643   NY1,NL

  1928  .323 30  97 153 592 191 26 18 136 16  7  95  14 .416 .579   NY1,NL

  1929  .316 37 127 153 594 188 24 14 131 16  6  84  14 .401 .591   NY1,NL

  1930  .277 33 110 153 570 158 32 12 119 10  5 109  16 .393 .549   NY1,BOS

  1931  .305 40 119 151 570 174 24  9 134 15 10 107  31 .415 .589   BOS,AL

  1932  .326 40 116 154 561 183 36 13 138 12  8 106   8 .433 .651   BOS,AL,CLE

  1933  .322 38 119 139 531 171 39 11 123 15  5  92  29 .422 .652   CLE,AL

  1934  .286 33 106 154 588 168 37  7 132 16  6  98  22 .388 .541   CLE,AL

  1935  .330 40 131 154 567 187 47  8 161 31  6 120  34 .447 .653   CLE,AL

  1936  .305 47 133 153 590 180 32  8 158 25  6 104  41 .409 .625   CLE,AL

  1937  .312 42 131 154 590 184 26  8 125  5  4  89  60 .402 .597   CLE,AL

 

  Total AB  : 9951

  Total AVG : .311

  Total Hits: 3099

  Total HR  : 561

  Total RBI : 1935

  Total Runs: 2233

  Total SB  : 289

CaLíKrAzY · 06-11-2002, 10:36 PM

Hey man I got his autograph

.. yes I'm proud !!

JimServo · 06-12-2002, 01:12 PM

Geeze, an incredible player like Frankie Frisch is traded twice! I'm curious, if you have the information, who it was for. My first simulation with Frankie Frisch (reached about 1935ish), he turned into a moderate power hitter. My second time around, he didn't develop that way, and ended becoming just a good but not great player. I would post the numbers, but I don't have them available.

Tiger Fan · 06-12-2002, 02:22 PM

Frisch was traded 3 times in the HOB2 although the first 2 were teams unloading him in his free agent season.

Frankie Frisch
Frisch has developed into a solid hitter but has not become a homerun threat at all. He had two big homer years in 1929 and 1930 but so did half the league as the offensive was so dominant those two seasons.

His biggest claim to fame is the 8 World Series he has played in so far, including 1927 when he was named the Series MVP. His postseason achievements are discussed in this thread:
http://www.400softwarestudios.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000425

Frisch was drafted 11th overall by Brooklyn in 1919 and after a year and a half seasoning with AAA Montreal he was ready for the majors. He played all 6 postseason games for the Dodgers in 1920 and was also a key factor in Brooklyn pennants in 1922,23 and 24. He signed with Cincinnati as a free agent following the 1924 campaign and made his first allstar appearance in 1925. The Reds dealt him to the Cubs for outfielder Eddie Murphy (who hit .308 in his 20 year and counting career) in July of 1926. Frisch helped the Cubs to pennants in 1926 and 1927.

He signed with the White Sox following his MVP performance in the 1927 series but by 1930 he was back in the National League. The White Sox sent him to Pittsburgh in July of 1929 for rookie outfielder Johnny Frederick (who would win rookie of the year that season but has tailed off since a trade to the Red Sox). In 1930, the Pirates moved Frisch to the Phillies in a move that may have cost the Pirates the pennant and certainly won it for the Phillies. See my 1930 thread for more on this
http://www.400softwarestudios.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000404

After helping the Phillies to the 1930 pennant Frisch had a memorable game 6 of the World Series against the White Sox. He set World Series single game records with 3 homers and 8 rbi's in a 13-10 Philadelphia win that tied the series. The Phillies lost game 7 however.

Frisch then moved on to the Yankees as a free agent where he still resides. In 1933, Babe Ruth joined the Yanks as a free agent pickup and the Frisch luck rubbed off on the Bambino, getting Babe his first World Series ring. Frisch is 35 as the 1933 season comes to an end. He has one more year left in his contract with the Yankees.



 CAREER STATS :

 

  YEAR   AVG HR RBI   G  AB   H 2B 3B   R SB CS  BB   K  OBP  SLG   TEAMS

  1920  .248  0   8  40 101  25  2  2  11  6  1   3   2 .269 .307   BRO

  1921  .351  2  47 102 302 106 16  7  67 16  4  15  12 .382 .470   BRO

  1922  .328  3  63 127 536 176 19 24  99 45 10  18   9 .350 .470   BRO

  1923  .315  5  71 141 588 185 27 15 110 46  8  26  11 .344 .437   BRO

  1924  .344  5  88 132 457 157 15  5  84 44  8  48   4 .406 .431   BRO

  1925  .314 11  75 150 582 183 17 19 119 40 14  72  13 .390 .466   CIN,NL

  1926  .336 12  88 144 547 184 26  9 119 39 14  80  17 .421 .483   CIN,NL,CHC

  1927  .319 12  85 150 574 183 28 15 115 30 11  72   9 .395 .483   CHC,NL

  1928  .323  8  81 116 452 146 22  7  83 29  5  67   9 .410 .456   CHW

  1929  .367 31 147 149 592 217 27 14 149 47  7  78  19 .440 .617   CHW,PIT,NL

  1930  .327 24 125 146 562 184 27 15 120 28  9  76  12 .408 .557   PIT,NL,PHI

  1931  .330 11  88 152 566 187 19  8 117 48  4  77  18 .411 .451   NYY

  1932  .277 14  69 148 584 162 19 18  97 34  9  66  22 .351 .443   NYY

  1933  .264 16  74 146 595 157 33  4 100 27  5  49  20 .324 .413   NYY,AL

 

  Total AB  : 7038

  Total AVG : .320

  Total Hits: 2252

  Total HR  : 154

  Total RBI : 1109

  Total Runs: 1390

  Total SB  : 479

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   POST SEASON STATS

   YR AG  TM LG   G  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI  SB CS  BB  K    BA  OBP   SP  TB  

 1920 21 BRO NL   6  25   5   9  2  1  0   2   1  0   0  0  .360 .333 .520  13   

 1922 23 BRO NL   4  18   3   5  1  0  0   2   1  0   2  0  .278 .350 .333   6  

 1923 24 BRO NL   5  21   4   6  2  0  0   2   2  0   2  0  .286 .348 .381   8 

 1924 25 BRO NL   6  21   1   5  1  0  0   5   1  0   3  1  .238 .333 .286   6  

 1926 27 CHC NL   6  23   4   4  0  1  1   2   1  0   3  0  .174 .269 .391   9   

 1927 28 CHC NL   6  24   6   9  0  1  1   6   1  1   7  2  .375 .516 .583  14   

 1930 31 PHI NL   7  29   6  11  1  1  3  11   1  0   3  1  .379 .438 .793  23   

 1933 34 NYY AL   7  29   7   8  2  0  1   3   3  0   5  1  .276 .382 .448  13   

 TOTALS          47 190  36  57  9  4  6  33  11  1  25  5  .300 .378 .484  92 

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Specs · 06-12-2002, 04:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JimServo:
Geeze, an incredible player like Frankie Frisch is traded twice! I'm curious, if you have the information, who it was for. My first simulation with Frankie Frisch (reached about 1935ish), he turned into a moderate power hitter. My second time around, he didn't develop that way, and ended becoming just a good but not great player. I would post the numbers, but I don't have them available.

Actually, it was George Ruth the pitcher once and Babe Ruth the hitter another...

MrAlphabet · 06-14-2002, 09:51 AM

I am simming the BoSox starting from 1916 and Frisch has become the star of my team as well, playing every infield position except 1B. I switch him based on where my weakness is each season but he has played a full position at each position 2B,3B and SS, mostly 2B. I'll try to dig out his stats but he has an incredible career so far. Johnny Frederick was one of my draft picks as well and has turned into a real star.

BoSox Win · 06-16-2002, 10:19 AM

Sam Horn, I traded the bum away from my Red Sox team (using the real life fade he displayed) to Detroit and he has been in the league leaders for HR's ever since. Thru 1994 he has 139 homers (including the partial season with the Red Sox, a year on the DL, and a year in the minors.) If only he had those numbers when he was playing for the Bo Sox.

William4192 · 06-27-2003, 01:44 PM

These stories are great to hear.

WillTheThrill · 06-29-2003, 07:31 PM

A reply more than a year later? How often does THAT happen. But hey, these stories ARE great to hear...

06-11-2002, 04:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
H I Mcdonough Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 289 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Pee Wee Reese goes crazy..... So I'm doing the now "token" replay of baseball history. I'm up to 1946, and Pee Wee Reese was traded to the Yankees at the tail end of 1945. He finished 1945 with 15 dingers. Not too terribly out of control, even for Pee Wee Reese. However, in 1946 he goes nuts and hits 32 homers. I check his abilities, and he has morphed into a "brilliant" power hitter. Anyone else seen any out-of-the-blue type developments like this?

06-12-2002, 01:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
JimServo Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 413 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Geeze, an incredible player like Frankie Frisch is traded twice! I'm curious, if you have the information, who it was for. My first simulation with Frankie Frisch (reached about 1935ish), he turned into a moderate power hitter. My second time around, he didn't develop that way, and ended becoming just a good but not great player. I would post the numbers, but I don't have them available. __________________ "When I was a small boy in Kansas, a friend of mine and I went fishing and as we sat there in the warmth of the summer afternoon on a river bank, we talked about what we wanted to do when we grew up. I told him that I wanted to be a real major league baseball player, a genuine professional like Honus Wagner. My friend said that he'd like to be President of the United States. Neither of us got our wish." -Dwight D. Eisenhower

06-12-2002, 02:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 5,443 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3x in 2 posts	Frisch was traded 3 times in the HOB2 although the first 2 were teams unloading him in his free agent season. Frankie Frisch Frisch has developed into a solid hitter but has not become a homerun threat at all. He had two big homer years in 1929 and 1930 but so did half the league as the offensive was so dominant those two seasons. His biggest claim to fame is the 8 World Series he has played in so far, including 1927 when he was named the Series MVP. His postseason achievements are discussed in this thread: http://www.400softwarestudios.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000425 Frisch was drafted 11th overall by Brooklyn in 1919 and after a year and a half seasoning with AAA Montreal he was ready for the majors. He played all 6 postseason games for the Dodgers in 1920 and was also a key factor in Brooklyn pennants in 1922,23 and 24. He signed with Cincinnati as a free agent following the 1924 campaign and made his first allstar appearance in 1925. The Reds dealt him to the Cubs for outfielder Eddie Murphy (who hit .308 in his 20 year and counting career) in July of 1926. Frisch helped the Cubs to pennants in 1926 and 1927. He signed with the White Sox following his MVP performance in the 1927 series but by 1930 he was back in the National League. The White Sox sent him to Pittsburgh in July of 1929 for rookie outfielder Johnny Frederick (who would win rookie of the year that season but has tailed off since a trade to the Red Sox). In 1930, the Pirates moved Frisch to the Phillies in a move that may have cost the Pirates the pennant and certainly won it for the Phillies. See my 1930 thread for more on this http://www.400softwarestudios.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000404 After helping the Phillies to the 1930 pennant Frisch had a memorable game 6 of the World Series against the White Sox. He set World Series single game records with 3 homers and 8 rbi's in a 13-10 Philadelphia win that tied the series. The Phillies lost game 7 however. Frisch then moved on to the Yankees as a free agent where he still resides. In 1933, Babe Ruth joined the Yanks as a free agent pickup and the Frisch luck rubbed off on the Bambino, getting Babe his first World Series ring. Frisch is 35 as the 1933 season comes to an end. He has one more year left in his contract with the Yankees. CAREER STATS : YEAR AVG HR RBI G AB H 2B 3B R SB CS BB K OBP SLG TEAMS 1920 .248 0 8 40 101 25 2 2 11 6 1 3 2 .269 .307 BRO 1921 .351 2 47 102 302 106 16 7 67 16 4 15 12 .382 .470 BRO 1922 .328 3 63 127 536 176 19 24 99 45 10 18 9 .350 .470 BRO 1923 .315 5 71 141 588 185 27 15 110 46 8 26 11 .344 .437 BRO 1924 .344 5 88 132 457 157 15 5 84 44 8 48 4 .406 .431 BRO 1925 .314 11 75 150 582 183 17 19 119 40 14 72 13 .390 .466 CIN,NL 1926 .336 12 88 144 547 184 26 9 119 39 14 80 17 .421 .483 CIN,NL,CHC 1927 .319 12 85 150 574 183 28 15 115 30 11 72 9 .395 .483 CHC,NL 1928 .323 8 81 116 452 146 22 7 83 29 5 67 9 .410 .456 CHW 1929 .367 31 147 149 592 217 27 14 149 47 7 78 19 .440 .617 CHW,PIT,NL 1930 .327 24 125 146 562 184 27 15 120 28 9 76 12 .408 .557 PIT,NL,PHI 1931 .330 11 88 152 566 187 19 8 117 48 4 77 18 .411 .451 NYY 1932 .277 14 69 148 584 162 19 18 97 34 9 66 22 .351 .443 NYY 1933 .264 16 74 146 595 157 33 4 100 27 5 49 20 .324 .413 NYY,AL Total AB : 7038 Total AVG : .320 Total Hits: 2252 Total HR : 154 Total RBI : 1109 Total Runs: 1390 Total SB : 479 - POST SEASON STATS YR AG TM LG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB K BA OBP SP TB 1920 21 BRO NL 6 25 5 9 2 1 0 2 1 0 0 0 .360 .333 .520 13 1922 23 BRO NL 4 18 3 5 1 0 0 2 1 0 2 0 .278 .350 .333 6 1923 24 BRO NL 5 21 4 6 2 0 0 2 2 0 2 0 .286 .348 .381 8 1924 25 BRO NL 6 21 1 5 1 0 0 5 1 0 3 1 .238 .333 .286 6 1926 27 CHC NL 6 23 4 4 0 1 1 2 1 0 3 0 .174 .269 .391 9 1927 28 CHC NL 6 24 6 9 0 1 1 6 1 1 7 2 .375 .516 .583 14 1930 31 PHI NL 7 29 6 11 1 1 3 11 1 0 3 1 .379 .438 .793 23 1933 34 NYY AL 7 29 7 8 2 0 1 3 3 0 5 1 .276 .382 .448 13 TOTALS 47 190 36 57 9 4 6 33 11 1 25 5 .300 .378 .484 92 - __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles My current dynasty - Fictional Breda Baseball League

06-14-2002, 09:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
MrAlphabet Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I am simming the BoSox starting from 1916 and Frisch has become the star of my team as well, playing every infield position except 1B. I switch him based on where my weakness is each season but he has played a full position at each position 2B,3B and SS, mostly 2B. I'll try to dig out his stats but he has an incredible career so far. Johnny Frederick was one of my draft picks as well and has turned into a real star. __________________ Charles Box San Diego Padres gbc-ORB Sheboygan Shamrocks NML Cincinnati Reds SHIBA

06-27-2003, 01:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
William4192 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,614 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	These stories are great to hear. __________________ I wish all the players took steroids! --- PROUD FOUNDER OF THE CHURCH OF E awaiting the second coming of the Great and Mighty E What is this about Rhode Island? It is neither Road or Island. "Yes, I make a lot of money, but I spend a lot of money"---Some NBA Player with Big Nostrils Come check out the MLML. http://mlml.us Or email at william4192@yahoo.com

06-11-2002, 10:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
CaLíKrAzY All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Costa Mesa, CaLí Posts: 688 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Hey man I got his autograph .. yes I'm proud !!

06-16-2002, 10:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
BoSox Win Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Sam Horn, I traded the bum away from my Red Sox team (using the real life fade he displayed) to Detroit and he has been in the league leaders for HR's ever since. Thru 1994 he has 139 homers (including the partial season with the Red Sox, a year on the DL, and a year in the minors.) If only he had those numbers when he was playing for the Bo Sox.

06-29-2003, 07:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
WillTheThrill Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 207 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	A reply more than a year later? How often does THAT happen. But hey, these stories ARE great to hear... __________________ Decendant of Will Miller of the Time Warp Baseball League. "After 24 years in the majors, Miller retired with one of the most successful careers in history. He set several major league records, including being the all-time leader with 4000 hits, 2004 runs and 921 stolen bases."

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