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Old 09-07-2004, 04:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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VOTE: Time Warp HOF Ballot 1946

1936 Initial Ballot Results, 1937 Results, 1938 Results, 1939 Results, 1940 Results,
1941 Results, 1942 Results, 1943 Results, 1944 Results, 1945 Results


No players were elected to the RL HOF in 1945 by the BBWAA, but the following players were elected by the VC - Jesse Burkett, Frank Chance, Jack Chesbro, Johnny Evers, Tommy McCarthy, Joe McGinnity, Eddie Plank, Joe Tinker, Rube Waddell and Ed Walsh.


All players who received at least 5% of votes on the last ballot were retained for this ballot. I also added players who became eligible for the ballot in 1946 (retired after 1940 season).

All players not receiving 5% of votes on this ballot will be removed. Also, all players who have been retired for 20 years fall off this ballot if not elected.

Vote for as many or as few as you want. Max votes are 10.

HOF Standard: 50 is considered an average HOF'er. 100 is max.

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Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
AVG: .364
Hits: 4000
HR: 545
RBI: 1847
2B: 665
BB: 1873
R: 2004
SB: 921


Patrick Seifried, 1B, Last Season: 1924, HOF Standard: 51
2720 H, 313 2B, 59 HR, 1195 RBI, 1348 R, 851 K, 1137 BB, 235 SB, .327 AVG, .867 OPS
BOY Award: 3
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 5
Pennants: 2
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: 1
Led League in: OBP 3, SLG 1, OPS 2, RBI 2, Runs 2, BB 3
Career Top 10: NONE


Paris "Frenchie" Fournier, 3B, Last Season: 1924, HOF Standard: 49
2730 H, 465 2B, 24 HR, 980 RBI, 1511 R, 354 K, 541 BB, 802 SB, .296 AVG, .772 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: Hits 2, 2B 1, 3B 2, Runs 4, SB 7
Career Top 10: 3B, Runs, SB


"Ray of Light" Brown, CF, Last Season: 1926, HOF Standard: 49
2526 H, 339 2B, 130 HR, 1155 RBI, 1314 R, 969 K, 828 BB, 167 SB, .300 AVG, .836 OPS
BOY Award: 2
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 11
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 2, Hits 2, 3B 1, HR 2, Runs 1
Career Top 10: 3B


Jerry "Slap" Hertzog, 2B, Last Season: 1937, HOF Standard: 61
2510 H, 395 2B, 122 HR, 1187 RBI, 1491 R, 899 K, 1509 BB, 41 SB, .314 AVG, .872 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1
Gold Gloves: 3
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: OBP 1, BB 7
Career Top 10: BB


Willard Schwarz, C, Last Season: 1937, HOF Standard: 41
2050 H, 359 2B, 340 HR, 1399 RBI, 1106 R, 614 K, 595 BB, 14 SB, .260 AVG, .760 OPS
BOY Award: 1
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 8
Pennants: 6
WS Victories: 5
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 1, HR 3, RBI 1, R 1
Career Top 10: HR


Glendon "Bull" Zegri, LF, Last Season: 1938, HOF Standard: 58
2934 H, 657 2B, 212 HR, 1713 RBI, 1503 R, 454 K, 1560 BB, 25 SB, .304 AVG, .844 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 10: RBI, 2B, BB


Ralph "Thunder" Tumbridge, 1B, Last Season: 1938, HOF Standard: 28
2086 H, 371 2B, 243 HR, 1409 RBI, 1095 R, 443 K, 762 BB, 24 SB, .274 AVG, .778 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 9
Pennants: 6
WS Victories: 4
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: RBI 1
Career Top 10: NONE


Nick Graves, RF, Last Season: 1938, HOF Standard: 52
2356 H, 527 2B, 207 HR, 1408 RBI, 1208 R, 775 K, 784 BB, 110 SB, .312 AVG, .877 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 2B 1
Career Top 10: NONE


Howard "Cookie" Parrish, 1B, Last Season: 1939, HOF Standard: 36
2082 H, 481 2B, 228 HR, 1171 RBI, 1010 R, 423 K, 576 BB, 6 SB, .312 AVG, .860 OPS
BOY Award: 2
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 2
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 1, OPS 1, 2B 1, RBI 1
Career Top 10: NONE


Dale "The Wizard" Reneau, SS, Last Season: 1939, HOF Standard: 63
2784 H, 340 2B, 91 HR, 1057 RBI, 1467 R, 693 K, 919 BB, 557 SB, .317 AVG, .829 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 3
Pennants: 6
WS Victories: 5
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 3B 2, Runs 1, SB 2
Career Top 10: NONE


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Tyrell Chestnut, RF, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 66
2801 H, 514 2B, 267 HR, 1630 RBI, 1720 R, 708 K, 1336 BB, 533 SB, .309 AVG, .895 OPS
BOY Award: 4
ROY Award: 1922
Gold Gloves: 6
Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: OBP 1, SLG 4, OPS 4, 3B 1, HR 2, RBI 3, Runs 1, SB 1
Career Top 10: Runs


Roy "The Natural" Hobbs, CF, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 71
2992 H, 442 2B, 221 HR, 1660 RBI, 1585 R, 717 K, 1209 BB, 206 SB, .315 AVG, .865 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 2
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: OPS 1, RBI 2
Career Top 10: RBI


Jon Minzey, CF, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57
2988 H, 430 2B, 54 HR, 1098 RBI, 1568 R, 600 K, 710 BB, 364 SB, .316 AVG, .801 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 4
Pennants: 5
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 3B 1
Career Top 10: NONE


Troy Kinnear, 3B, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57
2412 H, 602 2B, 332 HR, 1595 RBI, 1423 R, 933 K, 1407 BB, 46 SB, .272 AVG, .858 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 2B 1, HR 1, BB 1
Career Top 10: 2B, HR


Adam Sommer, LF, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 26
1966 H, 321 2B, 83 HR, 893 RBI, 833 R, 232 K, 339 BB, 98 SB, .321 AVG, .793 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 2
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 10: NONE


Levi "Tyke" Walls, SS, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 69
3333 H, 367 2B, 65 HR, 1193 RBI, 1625 R, 738 K, 858 BB, 678 SB, .337 AVG, .835 OPS
BOY Award: 1
ROY Award: 1921
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: 3
Led League in: OBP 1, SLG 1, OPS 1, Hits 2, SB 1
Career Top 10: Hits



Pitchers

Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
ERA: 2.10
W: 400
K: 3231
CG: 601
SHO: 95


"Nasty Ned" Fargo, Last Season: 1933, HOF Standard: 46
322-261, 55.2%, 3.99 ERA, 5502 IP, 1073 BB, 1482 K, 415 CG, 31 SHO, 1.24 WHIP
POY Award: 1
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: Wins 1, Losses 1, IP 5, CG 2
Career Top 10: Wins
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just one pitcher?

Zegri
Chestnut
Hobbs
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Just one pitcher?
Afraid so. Most of them fell off for vet committee consideration. That probably means a guy like Tobe Palmer wouldn't have failed to get 5% if they had dropped of in an earlier season, but over time we'll get some more. There haven't been any quality pitchers eligible for the ballot in recently.
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Patrick Seifreid
"Frenchie" Fournier
"Ray of Light" Brown
"Bull" Zegri
"Cookie" Parrish
"The Natural" Hobbs
Tyrell Chestnut
"Tyke" Walls
Troy Kinnear
Willard Schwarz

So hard bringing it down to just 10.
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Slap Hertzog
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Old 09-07-2004, 08:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 09-08-2004, 12:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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RF Tyrell Chestnut
CF Roy "The Natural" Hobbs
2B Jerry "Slap" Hertzog
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1B Patrick Seifried
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SS Levi "Tyke" Walls
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I will keep the voting open until early Monday morning, so hopefully we'll get a few more votes over the weekend.
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1 - Levi "Tyke" Walls, SS
2 - Tyrell Chestnut, RF
3 - Willard Schwarz, C
4 - Glendon "Bull" Zegri, LF
5 - "Ray of Light" Brown, CF
6 - Paris "Frenchie" Fournier
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Final Results!

This was a very close vote, with two players missing induction by the closest margin I think we've ever seen. Walls & Chestnut are 1st ballot inductees, while Fournier was close once again, but moves on to VC consideration, where he is a likely candidate.

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Levi Walls		93.33%
Tyrell Chestnut		86.67%
Roy Hobbs		73.33%
Bull Zegri		73.33%
Patrick Seifried	66.67%
Ray Brown		66.67%
Dale Reneau		53.33%
Frenchie Fournier	40.00%
Slap Hertzog		33.33%
Jon Minzey		33.33%
Willard Schwarz		33.33%
Ned Fargo		20.00%
Nick Graves		13.33%
Troy Kinnear		13.33%
Howard Parrish		 6.67%
The following players did not receive 5% of the vote & will be dropped from the ballot. The year they become eligible for the VC is listed in parenthesis:

Ralph Tumbridge (1960)
Adam Sommer (1962)

The following players have been retired for over 20 years and move to VC consideration:

Patrick Seifried
Frenchie Fournier


Also, next year will be Ray Brown's last year of eligibility for this ballot .
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Old 09-15-2004, 02:56 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Matt wrote:

> Patrick Seifried 66.67%

> The following players have been retired for
> over 20 years and move to VC consideration:
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> Patrick Seifried

I suspect that Seifried and Dark Horse will long hold the mark for The Best Players That The TWBWAA Didn't Vote In. *sigh*


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