VOTE: Time Warp HOF Ballot 1948

Matt from TN · 10-18-2004, 02:49 PM

1936 Initial Ballot Results, 1937 Results, 1938 Results, 1939 Results, 1940 Results,
1941 Results, 1942 Results, 1943 Results, 1944 Results, 1945 Results,
1946 Results, 1947 Results

Two players were elected to the RL HOF by the BBWAA in 1948: Herb Pennock and Pie Traynor.

All players who received at least 5% of votes on the last ballot were retained for this ballot. I also added players who became eligible for the ballot in 1948 (retired after 1942 season).

All players not receiving 5% of votes on this ballot will be removed. Also, all players who have been retired for 20 years fall off this ballot if not elected.

Vote for as many or as few as you want. Max votes are 10.

HOF Standard: 50 is considered an average HOF'er. 100 is max.

Batters

Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
AVG: .364
Hits: 4000
HR: 557
RBI: 1906
2B: 665
BB: 1962
R: 2004
SB: 925

Jerry "Slap" Hertzog, 2B, Last Season: 1937, HOF Standard: 61
2510 H, 395 2B, 122 HR, 1187 RBI, 1491 R, 899 K, 1509 BB, 41 SB, .314 AVG, .872 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1
Gold Gloves: 3
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: OBP 1, BB 7
Career Top 10: BB

Willard Schwarz, C, Last Season: 1937, HOF Standard: 41
2050 H, 359 2B, 340 HR, 1399 RBI, 1106 R, 614 K, 595 BB, 14 SB, .260 AVG, .760 OPS
BOY Award: 1
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 8
Pennants: 6
WS Victories: 5
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 1, HR 3, RBI 1, R 1
Career Top 10: HR

Glendon "Bull" Zegri, LF, Last Season: 1938, HOF Standard: 58
2934 H, 657 2B, 212 HR, 1713 RBI, 1503 R, 454 K, 1560 BB, 25 SB, .304 AVG, .844 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 10: RBI, 2B, BB

Nick Graves, RF, Last Season: 1938, HOF Standard: 52
2356 H, 527 2B, 207 HR, 1408 RBI, 1208 R, 775 K, 784 BB, 110 SB, .312 AVG, .877 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 2B 1
Career Top 10: NONE

Howard "Cookie" Parrish, 1B, Last Season: 1939, HOF Standard: 36
2082 H, 481 2B, 228 HR, 1171 RBI, 1010 R, 423 K, 576 BB, 6 SB, .312 AVG, .860 OPS
BOY Award: 2
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 2
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 1, OPS 1, 2B 1, RBI 1
Career Top 10: NONE

Dale "The Wizard" Reneau, SS, Last Season: 1939, HOF Standard: 63
2784 H, 340 2B, 91 HR, 1057 RBI, 1467 R, 693 K, 919 BB, 557 SB, .317 AVG, .829 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 3
Pennants: 6
WS Victories: 5
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 3B 2, Runs 1, SB 2
Career Top 10: NONE

Jon Minzey, CF, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57
2988 H, 430 2B, 54 HR, 1098 RBI, 1568 R, 600 K, 710 BB, 364 SB, .316 AVG, .801 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 4
Pennants: 5
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 3B 1
Career Top 10: NONE

Troy Kinnear, 3B, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57
2412 H, 602 2B, 332 HR, 1595 RBI, 1423 R, 933 K, 1407 BB, 46 SB, .272 AVG, .858 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 2B 1, HR 1, BB 1
Career Top 10: 2B, HR

Quenton Misisca, 1B, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 44
2629 H, 640 2B, 397 HR, 1787 RBI, 1419 R, 464 K, 759 BB, 26 SB, .286 AVG, .836 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 1, 2B 1, HR 4, RBI 3
Career Top 10: HR, RBI

John Schmeider, LF, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 61
2972 H, 462 2B, 239 HR, 1660 RBI, 1615 R, 990 K, 1564 BB, 149 SB, .306 AVG, .857 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
Pennants: 2
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: OBP 1, SLG 1, OPS 2, HR 1, RBI 1, BB 2
Career Top 10: RBI, BB

Bill "The Imp" Sheeder, CF, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 47
2102 H, 333 2B, 47 HR, 789 RBI, 1003 R, 474 K, 475 BB, 463 SB, .338 AVG, .845 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: 1
Led League in: OBP 1, Hits 2, 3B 2
Career Top 10: NONE

Harry Finley, C, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 44
1982 H, 373 2B, 87 HR, 910 RBI, 1139 R, 788 K, 508 BB, 632 SB, .288 AVG, .761 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 10
Pennants: 7
WS Victories: 5
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 3B 2
Career Top 10: NONE

NEW

Moonlight Graham, RF, Last Season: 1942, HOF Standard: 48
2009 H, 292 2B, 129 HR, 1119 RBI, 1339 R, 205 K, 1159 BB, 592 SB, .301 AVG, .847 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
Pennants: 7
WS Victories: 6
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: Runs 2, BB 2, K's 2
Career Top 10: NONE

"Fat Gus" Kahle, 3B, Last Season: 1942, HOF Standard: 67
3424 H, 477 2B, 194 HR, 1501 RBI, 1556 R, 731 K, 974 BB, 114 SB, .323 AVG, .809 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 9
WS Victories: 5
Batting Titles: 1
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 10: Hits

Pitchers

Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
ERA: 2.10
W: 400
K: 3231
CG: 601
SHO: 95

"Nasty Ned" Fargo, Last Season: 1933, HOF Standard: 46
322-261, 55.2%, 3.99 ERA, 5502 IP, 1073 BB, 1482 K, 415 CG, 31 SHO, 1.24 WHIP
POY Award: 1
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: Wins 1, Losses 1, IP 5, CG 2
Career Top 10: NONE

Brett Smith, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 42
264-180, 59.5%, 3.62 ERA, 4271 IP, 1264 BB, 1721 K, 378 CG, 33 SHO, 1.33 WHIP
POY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: Wins 1, IP 2, CG 1, SHO 1
Career Top 10: NONE

NEW

William O'Neill, Last Season: 1942, HOF Standard: 34
242-193, 55.6%, 3.76 ERA, 4253 IP, 1189 BB, 1934 K, 337 CG, 29 SHO, 1.33 WHIP
POY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
No-Hitters: 1 (Perfect Game)
Led League in: Losses 1, K's 3
Career Top 10: NONE

canadiancreed · 10-18-2004, 02:57 PM

hmmm thin crop for pitchers this year

Elendil · 10-18-2004, 03:28 PM

Jerry "Slap" Hertzog
Willard Schwarz
Glendon "Bull" Zegri
Dale "The Wizard" Reneau
Troy Kinnear
Quenton Misisca
John Schmeider
Harry Finley
"Fat Gus" Kahle

No pitchers!

Vris · 10-18-2004, 03:38 PM

Pitchers has been thin for a couple years now. That's kind of disappointing.

Mortals
"Slap" Hertzog
"Cookie" Parrish---still can't believe no one has voted for him....would they do this to Lou Gehrig?
John Schmeider---Hobbs got in last year, now it's Schmeider's turn
Quentin Misisca
Troy Kinnear

Yankees and Phillies
Harry Finley
"Moonlight" Graham
"Fat Gus" Kahle
"The Wizard" Reneau
Willard Schwarz

I wonder how many of those Yankees and Phillies players are gonna be there...those 5-6 WS rings helps!

canadiancreed · 10-18-2004, 03:47 PM

No kidding I'm looking through and its' either the Yanks, teh Phils, and a sprinking of Tigers....were there no other teams?

On a side note, the one pitcher was the guy that we traded to get Skeeter Schaldemose, worked good for us I'd say

Vris · 10-18-2004, 03:49 PM

Were you gonna vote creed or just comment on everyone else? Seems like we get less and less voters each year so the more the merrier!

Carlton · 10-18-2004, 03:54 PM

Hertzog
Reneau
Graham

scprideandms · 10-18-2004, 05:33 PM

Hertzog
Zegri
Reneau
Schmeider
Kahle

BPS · 10-18-2004, 05:54 PM

Zegri
Hertzog
Reneau
Kahle
Schmeider

rogmax11 · 10-18-2004, 06:15 PM

Hertzog
Zegri
Misisca
Kahle
Schmeider
Reneau

jdw · 10-18-2004, 06:30 PM

Hertzog
Reneau

Weakest crop ever. A load of "good" players, but lacking in greats.

Fat Gus was one of my favs, and was one of the many good players on those great Yankees teams. But you have a player with 1500+ runs _and_ RBI, yet when you look at his leader board placements, you see a 7th in RBI, a 9th in RBI... and not *any* other placements in either the RBI or Run leader boards. He's one of those classic Start Young & Play Forever guys we're talking about. That he was at 3B is a plus. "Only" two GG doesn't really stand him out above the crowd. I like him a lot, but... was he really "great"?

John

haggis007 · 10-18-2004, 06:35 PM

Hertzog
Schwarz
Zegri
Parrish
Reneau
Schmeider
Kahle
Kinnear
Misisica

fhomess · 10-18-2004, 07:14 PM

Quentin Misisca
John Schmeider
Glendon "Bull" Zegri
Troy Kinnear
Nick Graves
Jerry "Slap" Hertzog

fhomess · 10-18-2004, 07:20 PM

By the way, why's everyone voting for Reneau this year? He never got more than 45% previously and now seems to be on everyone's ballot. What has changed your minds?

Vris · 10-18-2004, 07:27 PM

Well look at the Hall of Fame, jdw. Does it have all "great"s? What do you want, just a Hall of Fame with 10 people in it that no one can match. There are "greats" that no one can match, but there aren't enough of them to make it very interesting.

metsgeek · 10-18-2004, 07:46 PM

Hertzog
Zegri
Kahle
Reneau
Graves
Parrish
Minzey
Misisca
Graham
Fargo

tward13 · 10-18-2004, 08:21 PM

Hertzog
Zegri
Kinnear
Reneau
Schmeider
Kahle

canadiancreed · 10-19-2004, 12:56 AM

"Nasty Ned" Fargo,
"Fat Gus" Kahle,
Quenton Misisca,
Jon Minzey,
Dale "The Wizard" Reneau,
Glendon "Bull" Zegri,

Damn think crowd though, no-one that really stands out

Matt from TN · 10-19-2004, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

Damn thin crowd though, no-one that really stands out

Yes, a perfect opportunity for some players to sneak in after just missing in previous seasons... Would've been a great time for Seifried & Ray of Light Brown to still be here. And to think it looks like even the VC won't vote them in. Wow.

Matt from TN · 10-19-2004, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vris

Were you gonna vote creed or just comment on everyone else? Seems like we get less and less voters each year so the more the merrier!

Actually that's not true. We had more voters last year (or maybe the yr before) than ever. We usually get 12-18 or so votes. I think it's just that now, everyone jumps on it & it seems to end quicker than ever before. For example, we had 12 votes already within 10 hours of me posting this ballot. That's already enough votes for me to end the vote, wow! Of course, I'll let this ballot stay up all week and I hope we can garner even more votes. There are some TWB GM's that haven't voted yet & I hope they do.

10-18-2004, 02:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	VOTE: Time Warp HOF Ballot 1948 1936 Initial Ballot Results, 1937 Results, 1938 Results, 1939 Results, 1940 Results, 1941 Results, 1942 Results, 1943 Results, 1944 Results, 1945 Results, 1946 Results, 1947 Results Two players were elected to the RL HOF by the BBWAA in 1948: Herb Pennock and Pie Traynor. All players who received at least 5% of votes on the last ballot were retained for this ballot. I also added players who became eligible for the ballot in 1948 (retired after 1942 season). All players not receiving 5% of votes on this ballot will be removed. Also, all players who have been retired for 20 years fall off this ballot if not elected. Vote for as many or as few as you want. Max votes are 10. HOF Standard: 50 is considered an average HOF'er. 100 is max. Batters Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List): AVG: .364 Hits: 4000 HR: 557 RBI: 1906 2B: 665 BB: 1962 R: 2004 SB: 925 Jerry "Slap" Hertzog, 2B, Last Season: 1937, HOF Standard: 61 2510 H, 395 2B, 122 HR, 1187 RBI, 1491 R, 899 K, 1509 BB, 41 SB, .314 AVG, .872 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: 1 Gold Gloves: 3 Pennants: 4 WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: OBP 1, BB 7 Career Top 10: BB Willard Schwarz, C, Last Season: 1937, HOF Standard: 41 2050 H, 359 2B, 340 HR, 1399 RBI, 1106 R, 614 K, 595 BB, 14 SB, .260 AVG, .760 OPS BOY Award: 1 ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 8 Pennants: 6 WS Victories: 5 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: SLG 1, HR 3, RBI 1, R 1 Career Top 10: HR Glendon "Bull" Zegri, LF, Last Season: 1938, HOF Standard: 58 2934 H, 657 2B, 212 HR, 1713 RBI, 1503 R, 454 K, 1560 BB, 25 SB, .304 AVG, .844 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 2 Pennants: 4 WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: NONE Career Top 10: RBI, 2B, BB Nick Graves, RF, Last Season: 1938, HOF Standard: 52 2356 H, 527 2B, 207 HR, 1408 RBI, 1208 R, 775 K, 784 BB, 110 SB, .312 AVG, .877 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: 1 Gold Gloves: 2 Pennants: 1 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 2B 1 Career Top 10: NONE Howard "Cookie" Parrish, 1B, Last Season: 1939, HOF Standard: 36 2082 H, 481 2B, 228 HR, 1171 RBI, 1010 R, 423 K, 576 BB, 6 SB, .312 AVG, .860 OPS BOY Award: 2 ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE Pennants: 2 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: SLG 1, OPS 1, 2B 1, RBI 1 Career Top 10: NONE Dale "The Wizard" Reneau, SS, Last Season: 1939, HOF Standard: 63 2784 H, 340 2B, 91 HR, 1057 RBI, 1467 R, 693 K, 919 BB, 557 SB, .317 AVG, .829 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 3 Pennants: 6 WS Victories: 5 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 3B 2, Runs 1, SB 2 Career Top 10: NONE Jon Minzey, CF, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57 2988 H, 430 2B, 54 HR, 1098 RBI, 1568 R, 600 K, 710 BB, 364 SB, .316 AVG, .801 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 4 Pennants: 5 WS Victories: 2 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 3B 1 Career Top 10: NONE Troy Kinnear, 3B, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57 2412 H, 602 2B, 332 HR, 1595 RBI, 1423 R, 933 K, 1407 BB, 46 SB, .272 AVG, .858 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 2 Pennants: 1 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 2B 1, HR 1, BB 1 Career Top 10: 2B, HR Quenton Misisca, 1B, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 44 2629 H, 640 2B, 397 HR, 1787 RBI, 1419 R, 464 K, 759 BB, 26 SB, .286 AVG, .836 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 1 Pennants: 1 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: SLG 1, 2B 1, HR 4, RBI 3 Career Top 10: HR, RBI John Schmeider, LF, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 61 2972 H, 462 2B, 239 HR, 1660 RBI, 1615 R, 990 K, 1564 BB, 149 SB, .306 AVG, .857 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 1 Pennants: 2 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: OBP 1, SLG 1, OPS 2, HR 1, RBI 1, BB 2 Career Top 10: RBI, BB Bill "The Imp" Sheeder, CF, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 47 2102 H, 333 2B, 47 HR, 789 RBI, 1003 R, 474 K, 475 BB, 463 SB, .338 AVG, .845 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE Pennants: NONE WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: 1 Led League in: OBP 1, Hits 2, 3B 2 Career Top 10: NONE Harry Finley, C, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 44 1982 H, 373 2B, 87 HR, 910 RBI, 1139 R, 788 K, 508 BB, 632 SB, .288 AVG, .761 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 10 Pennants: 7 WS Victories: 5 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 3B 2 Career Top 10: NONE NEW Moonlight Graham, RF, Last Season: 1942, HOF Standard: 48 2009 H, 292 2B, 129 HR, 1119 RBI, 1339 R, 205 K, 1159 BB, 592 SB, .301 AVG, .847 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 1 Pennants: 7 WS Victories: 6 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: Runs 2, BB 2, K's 2 Career Top 10: NONE "Fat Gus" Kahle, 3B, Last Season: 1942, HOF Standard: 67 3424 H, 477 2B, 194 HR, 1501 RBI, 1556 R, 731 K, 974 BB, 114 SB, .323 AVG, .809 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 2 Pennants: 9 WS Victories: 5 Batting Titles: 1 Led League in: NONE Career Top 10: Hits Pitchers Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List): ERA: 2.10 W: 400 K: 3231 CG: 601 SHO: 95 "Nasty Ned" Fargo, Last Season: 1933, HOF Standard: 46 322-261, 55.2%, 3.99 ERA, 5502 IP, 1073 BB, 1482 K, 415 CG, 31 SHO, 1.24 WHIP POY Award: 1 ROY Award: NONE Pennants: 1 WS Victories: 1 No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: Wins 1, Losses 1, IP 5, CG 2 Career Top 10: NONE Brett Smith, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 42 264-180, 59.5%, 3.62 ERA, 4271 IP, 1264 BB, 1721 K, 378 CG, 33 SHO, 1.33 WHIP POY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Pennants: NONE WS Victories: NONE No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: Wins 1, IP 2, CG 1, SHO 1 Career Top 10: NONE NEW William O'Neill, Last Season: 1942, HOF Standard: 34 242-193, 55.6%, 3.76 ERA, 4253 IP, 1189 BB, 1934 K, 337 CG, 29 SHO, 1.33 WHIP POY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Pennants: NONE WS Victories: NONE No-Hitters: 1 (Perfect Game) Led League in: Losses 1, K's 3 Career Top 10: NONE

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10-18-2004, 03:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,228	Pitchers has been thin for a couple years now. That's kind of disappointing. Mortals "Slap" Hertzog "Cookie" Parrish---still can't believe no one has voted for him....would they do this to Lou Gehrig? John Schmeider---Hobbs got in last year, now it's Schmeider's turn Quentin Misisca Troy Kinnear Yankees and Phillies Harry Finley "Moonlight" Graham "Fat Gus" Kahle "The Wizard" Reneau Willard Schwarz I wonder how many of those Yankees and Phillies players are gonna be there...those 5-6 WS rings helps! __________________ None Blog it.

10-18-2004, 03:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,228	Were you gonna vote creed or just comment on everyone else? Seems like we get less and less voters each year so the more the merrier! __________________ None Blog it.

10-18-2004, 03:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
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10-18-2004, 02:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,876	hmmm thin crop for pitchers this year

10-18-2004, 03:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,876	No kidding I'm looking through and its' either the Yanks, teh Phils, and a sprinking of Tigers....were there no other teams? On a side note, the one pitcher was the guy that we traded to get Skeeter Schaldemose, worked good for us I'd say

10-18-2004, 05:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
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10-18-2004, 05:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
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10-18-2004, 06:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
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10-18-2004, 06:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,089	Hertzog Reneau Weakest crop ever. A load of "good" players, but lacking in greats. Fat Gus was one of my favs, and was one of the many good players on those great Yankees teams. But you have a player with 1500+ runs _and_ RBI, yet when you look at his leader board placements, you see a 7th in RBI, a 9th in RBI... and not any other placements in either the RBI or Run leader boards. He's one of those classic Start Young & Play Forever guys we're talking about. That he was at 3B is a plus. "Only" two GG doesn't really stand him out above the crowd. I like him a lot, but... was he really "great"? John

10-18-2004, 06:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
haggis007 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 115	Hertzog Schwarz Zegri Parrish Reneau Schmeider Kahle Kinnear Misisica

10-18-2004, 07:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
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10-18-2004, 07:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
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10-18-2004, 07:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,228	Well look at the Hall of Fame, jdw. Does it have all "great"s? What do you want, just a Hall of Fame with 10 people in it that no one can match. There are "greats" that no one can match, but there aren't enough of them to make it very interesting. __________________ None Blog it.

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10-18-2004, 07:46 PM	#16 (permalink)
metsgeek Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 5,411	Hertzog Zegri Kahle Reneau Graves Parrish Minzey Misisca Graham Fargo __________________ Commissioner - PBRL Time Warp Baseball - Boston Red Sox The Baseball Chronicle - Cleveland Spiders

10-19-2004, 12:56 AM	#18 (permalink)
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,876	"Nasty Ned" Fargo, "Fat Gus" Kahle, Quenton Misisca, Jon Minzey, Dale "The Wizard" Reneau, Glendon "Bull" Zegri, Damn think crowd though, no-one that really stands out