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Old 02-09-2005, 02:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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20th Century Tourney: Round #1/Group #23

Here are the teams for Group #23:

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Seed #	Year	Team	Wins	Losses	Division
1	1909	Cubs	104	49	AL East
2	1931	Cards	101	53	NL East
3	1925	Sens	96	55	NL West
4	1952	Dodgers	96	57	AL West
5	1935	Tigers	93	58	ALWest
6	1927	Pirates	94	60	NL West
7	1932	Sens	93	61	NL East
8	1971	Pirates	97	65	AL East
9	1992	Pirates	96	66	AL East
10	1965	CHA	95	67	NL East
11	1963	CHA	94	68	NL West
12	1966	Giants	93	68	AL West
13	1952	Cards	88	66	AL West
14	1913	Indians	86	66	NL West
15	1981	Orioles	59	46	NL East
16	1932	Pirates	86	68	AL East
17	1992	Twins	90	72	AL East
18	1967	CHA	89	73	NL East
19	1901	Tigers	74	61	NL West
20	1974	Astros	88	74	AL West
21	1923	Tigers	83	71	AL West
22	1989	Orioles	87	75	NL West
23	1943	CHA	82	72	NL East
24	1990	TOR	86	76	AL East
25	1951	CHA	81	73	AL East
26	1921	Sens	80	73	NL East
27	1982	Pirates	84	78	NL West
28	1920	Pirates	79	75	AL West
29	1996	Rockies	83	79	AL West
30	1948	Tigers	78	76	NL West
31	1928	Dodgers	77	76	NL East
32	1985	RedSox	81	81	AL East
A Good Group for White Sox fans....if they advance that is.
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Interesting to have a group of 32 teams with none of them the Yankees.
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Interesting to have a group of 32 teams with none of them the Yankees.
Yeah, it is a real rarity so far Although the last group didn't have any Yankees teams either. Of course that didn't occur to me at first.
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A lot of Pirates in this group too.
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$5 says somehow the 96 Rockies advance. Don't ask my why I note that, I just get a vibe.
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$5 says somehow the 96 Rockies advance. Don't ask my why I note that, I just get a vibe.
They very well could, as a whole this group looks kinda weak. Or in other words wide open
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Come on Rox, let's make it 3 for 3!
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Interesting to have a group of 32 teams with none of them the Yankees.
That's funny because that's the first thing I noticed too.
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That's funny because that's the first thing I noticed too.
Well aren't Yankees teams the first thing you look for?
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Well aren't Yankees teams the first thing you look for?
Well, naturally.
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Key Players for Group #23:

4.5-5.0 Star Catchers: None

4.5-5.0 Star 1B: Hank Greenberg('35 DET)

4.5-5.0 Star 2B: None

4.5-5.0 Star 3B: None

4.5-5.0 Star SS: Arky Vaughan('32 PIT)

4.5-5.0 Star OF: Joe Jackson('13 CLE), Barry Bonds('92 PIT), Babe Herman('28 BRO), Ellis Burks('96 COL), Willie Stargell('71 PIT), HarryHeilmann('23 DET)

4.5-5.0 Star SP: Gaylord Perry('66 SF), Dazzy Vance('28 BRO), Orval Overall('09 Cubs), Mordecai Brown('09 Cubs), Cy Falkenberg('13 CLE), John Candelaria('82 PIT), Doug Drabek('92 PIT), Wilbur Cooper('20 PIT), Juan Pizarro('63 CHA), Willie Mitchell('13 CLE), Roger Clemens('85 BOS), Juan Marichal('66 SF), Gary Peters('67 CHA), Babe Adams('20 PIT)

Not much in the way of monster offensive stars in this group. Should be pitcher dominated, which probably favors those mighty 1909 Cubs even more.
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Thru April:
Best Records:1927 Pirates(23-6), 1935 Tigers(21-8), 1913 Indians(19-10), 1967 White Sox(18-11), 1932 Pirates(18-11)

Biggest Dissapointment:#1 Seed 1909 Cubs(12-17)

Biggest Surprise: #32 Seed 1985 Red Sox(15-14)

HR Leader: Many Tied 6

BA Leader: Joe Jackson('13 CLE) .516

Wins Leader: Lloyd Brown('32 WSH) 7

1996 Rockies: 8-21
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Thru May:
Best Records:1927 Pirates(41-15), 1913 Indians(36-20), 1935 Tigers(34-22), 1931 Cardinals(34-22), 1925 Senators(34-22)

Biggest Dissapointment:#1 Seed 1909 Cubs(26-30)

Biggest Surprise: #26 Seed 1921 Senators(33-23)

HR Leader: Ellis Burks('96 COL) & Willie Stargell('71 PIT) 13

BA Leader: Joe Jackson('13 CLE) .448

Wins Leader: Willie Mitchell('13 CLE) 12

1996 Rockies: 26-30
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Thru June:
Best Records:1927 Pirates(59-22), 1931 Cardinals(52-29), 1913 Indians(50-31), 1923 Tigers(48-33), 1921 Senators(47-34)

Biggest Dissapointment:#1 Seed 1909 Cubs(38-43)

Biggest Surprise: #32 Seed 1985 Red Sox(44-37)

HR Leader: Many Tied 15

BA Leader: Joe Jackson('13 CLE) .458

Wins Leader: Willie Mitchell('13 CLE) 16

1996 Rockies: 38-43
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Best Records:1927 Pirates(73-34), 1913 Indians(65-42), 1921 Senators(62-45), 1931 Cardinals(61-46), 1935 Tigers(61-46)

Biggest Dissapointment:#4 Seed 1952 Dodgers(53-54)

Biggest Surprise: #32 Seed 1985 Red Sox(57-50)

HR Leader: Willie Stargell('71 PIT) 19

BA Leader: Joe Jackson('13 CLE) & Paul Waner('27 PIT) .436

Wins Leader: Willie Mitchell('13 CLE) & Ray Kremer('27 PIT) 19

1996 Rockies: 53-54
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Thru August:
Best Records:1927 Pirates(92-42), 1913 Indians(80-54), 1931 Cardinals(79-55), 1925 Senators(75-59), 1923 Tigers(74-60), 1921 Senators(74-60)

Biggest Dissapointment:#8 Seed 1971 Pirates(66-68)

Biggest Surprise: #32 Seed 1985 Red Sox(72-62)

HR Leader: Willie Stargell('71 PIT) & Ellis Burks('96 COL) 22

BA Leader: Joe Jackson('13 CLE) .432

Wins Leader: Ray Kremer('27 PIT) 24

1996 Rockies: 68-66
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Final Standing for Group #23:
Teams in bold have advanced, all other eliminated.

Code:
American League Standings 
 
East 
 
Team         W  L  PCT   GB   
AL,BOS,1985 91 71 .562    - 
AL,WS1,1921 85 77 .525  6.0  
NL,PIT,1992 79 83 .488 12.0
NL,CHN,1909 78 84 .481 13.0  
NL,PIT,1971 78 84 .481 13.0 
AL,CHA,1967 74 88 .457 17.0  
NL,PIT,1932 74 88 .457 17.0 
AL,TOR,1990 71 91 .438 20.0  
 
West 
 
Team         W  L  PCT   GB   
AL,DET,1923 92 70 .568    -  
AL,DET,1935 90 72 .556  2.0  
NL,SLN,1952 90 72 .556  2.0 
NL,COL,1996 88 74 .543  4.0  
NL,BRO,1952 83 79 .512  9.0   
AL,CHA,1963 81 81 .500 11.0  
NL,HOU,1974 72 90 .444 20.0 
NL,PIT,1920 70 92 .432 22.0  
 
National Standings 
 
East 
 
Team         W   L  PCT   GB   
NL,SLN,1931 98  64 .605    -  
AL,CHA,1965 83  79 .512 15.0  
AL,WS1,1932 79  83 .488 19.0  
AL,MIN,1992 78  84 .481 20.0  
NL,BRO,1928 72  90 .444 26.0  
AL,CHA,1951 71  91 .438 27.0  
AL,BAL,1981 70  92 .432 28.0  
AL,CHA,1943 55 107 .340 43.0  
 
West 
 
Team          W  L  PCT   GB  
NL,PIT,1927 104 58 .642    -  
AL,CLE,1913  94 68 .580 10.0  
NL,SFN,1966  90 72 .556 14.0 
AL,DET,1901  88 74 .543 16.0  
AL,WS1,1925  87 75 .537 17.0
AL,DET,1948  85 77 .525 19.0  
NL,PIT,1982  76 86 .469 28.0 
AL,BAL,1989  66 96 .407 38.0
Top Seed Eliminated: #1 Seed 1909 Cubs

Highest Seed to Advance: #32 1985 Red Sox
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Group #23 Highlights:

Batting Champ: Wade Boggs('85 BOS) .421
HR Champ: Willie Stargell('71 PIT) 28
RBI Champ: Harry Heilmann('23 DET) 119
Run Champ: Hank Greenberg('35 DET) 140
SB Champ: Frank Chance('09 Cubs) 58

ERA Champ: Wilbur Wood('67 CHA) 2.42
Wins Champ: Willie Mitchell('13 CLE) 27
Saves Champ: Bruce Ruffin('96 COL) 37
K Champ: Vinegar Bend Mizell('52 STL) 177

American League Pitcher of the Group:
Hooks Dauss (AL)!
He had a record of 22-13 with an ERA of 3.10.
In 45 games started, he pitched 354.1 innings, fanning 102 and walking 80 batters.

American League Hitter of the Group:
Charlie Gehringer (AL)!
He batted .371 in 653 AB, with 19 homers and 113 RBI.

National Pitcher of the Group:
Willie Mitchell (AL)!
He had a record of 27-7 with an ERA of 2.94 and 1 shutouts.
In 42 games started, he pitched 324.2 innings, fanning 155 and walking 127 batters.

National Hitter of the Group:
Lloyd Waner (NL)!
He batted .392 in 635 AB, with 2 homers and 115 RBI.

American League Gold Glove Winners:
Pitcher: Harry Brecheen (NL)
Catcher: Rich Gedman (AL)
First Base: Lu Blue (AL)
Second Base: Nelson Liriano (AL)
Third Base: Fred Haney (AL)
Shortstop: Billy Rogell (AL)
Leftfield: Tommie Agee (AL)
Centerfield: Alex Cole (NL)
Rightfield: Pete Fox (AL)

National Gold Glove Winners:
Pitcher: Vic Aldridge (NL)
Catcher: Tony Pena (NL)
First Base: Joe Harris (NL)
Second Base: Bucky Harris (AL)
Third Base: Ossie Bluege (AL)
Shortstop: Charlie Gelbert (NL)
Leftfield: Shane Mack (AL)
Centerfield: Thurman Tucker (AL)
Rightfield: Pedro Munoz (AL)
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One last note from the Group:
Here is the player history for Wade Boggs('85 BOS):

Won Player of the Week award on 5/31/2004, hitting .480 with 0 HR, 5 RBI...
Had 29-game hitting streak snapped on 6/12/2004...
Was selected to the 2004 Allstar game...
Had 58-game hitting streak snapped on 9/27/2004...

What an amazing season for Boggs. The previous tourney record was a 39 game streak by Ty Cobb.
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Is that the first #1 seed eliminated?

And what a season for Boggs. Not only carrying that team into round 2, but a 58 game hit streak? That's damn impressive, even for a bunch of 0's and 1's.
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