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The Base Ball Life of Patrick O'Farrell: Hall of Fame Thread
This thread has been created to allow you to help me create a Hall of Fame for the universe featured in The Base Ball Life of Patrick O'Farrell.
The Hall of Fame will be located in Cooperstown, New York, and will be opening in the summer of 1926. (It's currently 1925 in Pat's world.) You, my fellow members of the OOTP forum, are being given a chance to participate in the Hall of Fame voting. I haven't established any criteria for acquiring credentials as a Hall of Fame voter. In other words, you don't have to have posted in the Pat O'Farrell forum. I have read plenty of threads on the forum from first post to last, without ever adding my worth, so I can't say that those who "lurk" in Pat's world are less qualified to play along than those who have decided to post there.Many of the rules for elections to this Hall of Fame are similar to those created for the "real" HOF. In order to be eligible for election to the Hall, a player must have spent all or part of ten seasons in the major leagues. Years accumulated before Pat's universe began in 1904 count toward this total, and stats carried over from the import count as well. Therefore, a player like Cy Young, who was close to retirement before Pat's day, will be eligible. Qualified players will appear on the ballot for the first time three years after their retirements as active players. In the original balloting, all ten-year men who retired in 1923 or earlier will be eligible. This rule will almost certainly be changed eventually, as more players who played their entire careers during the period of the simulation and, therefore, did not "inherit" any stats from the "real" majors retire. Hall of Fame voters may list up to TEN players on each year's ballot. This will undoubtedly produce a glut of well-qualified candidates in the first few years of balloting, but that's just fine. The inaugural class will contain the immortals, and then the lesser stars might be enshrined in the years to come. Notice of the opening of each year's Hall of Fame balloting will appear in this forum, and in the Base Ball Life of Patrick O'Farrell forum. Voters will have at least a week from the opening of the election to submit their ballots before the voting closes. I want to give everyone who'd like to participate a chance to do so, but since the results of each year's Hall of Fame election will be part of the Base Ball Life story, I don't want to hold things up too long for the sake of the HOF alone. (I like to play OOTP too much to force myself to stop playing in Pat's world for too long.) Of course, as Pat's fans know, sometimes real life keeps me away from OOTP for long periods of time. If that happens, then let's just say that y'all will have a lot of time to contemplate your HOF selections. ![]() HOF voters will cast their ballots by sending them via private message to me, Big Six. This will allow any of you who wish to keep your ballots secret to do so. Of course, if you want to publicize your ballot in the spirit of generating some discussion, feel free to do so in this forum. Any player who is named on at least 75% of the ballots cast in a single year will be elected to the Hall of Fame. I am going to vote, so that means if three others of you decide to join in, then it'll take three votes to make the Hall. Man, I hope more than three of you play along...although it might be fun to control 25% of the votes in a Hall of Fame election... ![]() In order to remain on the ballot for the next year, a player must recieve at least 5% of the ballots cast the year before. As the supreme base ball deity of Pat's universe, I reserve the right to suspend this rule if I determine that too few ballots were cast in a year to make this rule meaningful. So, if only five people vote, and they all choose the same 10 guys, the process won't grind to a heartbreaking halt. Players will appear on the ballot for a maximum of twelve (12) years, until they are elected to membership in the Hall or until they fail to receive 5% of the vote in an election. This rule was instituted in 1936, in an effort to clear the ballot somewhat. Players who appear on the 1926, 1927, and 1928 ballots will remain on the ballot for three years (through 1929) regardless of their support. Thanks to William4192 and John P. Yuda for suggesting this amendment. The first few years, as we've started to see, the ballot is absolutely stacked. A player could fail to hang with this bunch and still be a legit HoFer. If, after three years are up, a member of these first classes fails to reach the 5% threshhold, he's out. That gives members of the Class of '26 three years to reach the 5% total and the guys from the Class of '27 two years. Otherwise, they'll be dropped, and beginning with the Class of '28, the "regular" rule will apply. The results of each year's balloting will be posted here, and if it is a story of enough interest, it will also be worked into the Base Ball Life thread. Again, I think the results might generate some enjoyable discussion and debate. Furthermore, because I am a benevolent deity, I want to make this process as transparent as possible so none of you think I'm rigging the results to suit myself. ![]() I'll make more rules if, and when, I need to, and if you want to suggest a rule change, please feel free to do so. At this point, I'm not instituting a rule limiting a player to only fifteen years on the ballot. I figure if a guy keeps getting some support, I'll leave him on the ballot. I'm not going to put EVERY guy with ten years' experience on the ballot, either. If I don't think a guy has a chance to make the Hall, or even get significant support, I won't list him. This is a reflection of the fact that as a husband, teacher, and coach, I have a real life, and can't spend endless hours combing the annals of Pat's universe to find EVERY dude who got in 10 years and summarizing his credentials for you. If you wonder about someone's absence, please ask, and I'll look at him; if he's got 10 years I'll add him. Very soon I'll have the first ballot ready for posting here in this thread. Thanks in advance for participating, and I hope we'll all have a lot of fun with this!!
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Off and on the ballot: fun facts
A few "real" baseball stars crashed and burned bigtime in Pat's world. Eddie Cicotte, who won all of three games in his career, is the first name who comes to mind. Another Hall of Famer, Red Faber only got in eight years in Pat's universe. Among the position players, Joe Tinker was never a regular shortstop, although he stuck around as a benchwarmer for ages.
Some active players who SHOULD be good are not quite what they should be. Goose Goslin is currently only 24, but he should be taking flight by now. Instead, this Goose is still very much a Goslin(g), spending all his time in the barnyard. During Goslin's first pro season, The Senators decided they'd rather have Del Gainer, and traded him to the Athletics. Goose has amassed exactly 14 major league at-bats, and has never started a game. Instead, he has been terrorizing AAA pitching while waiting for Shoeless Joe Jackson to retire. To be fair, Goslin's development has been stalled while he recovers from Torn Calf Muscle, Bruised Cheekbone, and Scratched Cornea Eye. I'm seriously tempted to play Supreme Deity, free the Goose from his prison in the A's organization, and give him to a team who'll give the poor guy a chance. The Braves have sucked for so long that they could use a boost... Perhaps the saddest tale of all, however, is that of Pie Traynor. If he doesn't stop putzing around in the minor leagues, he's never going to make it to the Show at all. Pie remained on the menu in Single A for FOUR years, until the Pirates gave up on him and traded him to the Phillies for Braggo Roth. In his new organization, Traynor has finally moved up to AA at age 26. He's raking, but agemates like George Grantham and Jim Bottomley are All-Stars already, younger players like Bill Terry are becoming solid major leaguers, and even slow starters like Kiki Cuyler have turned the corner. Short of a major turnaround, this will turn out to be one very unpalatable Pie. On the other hand, Dave Brain ripped over 2,000 hits in his career, and Simon Nicholls retired at the end of the 1924 season with almost 2,700 base knocks and a lifetime average of .296. George Moriarty hit .308 lifetime, with almost 2800 hits and over 800 stolen bases. The exploits of Roy Hitt and Del Mason are well-known to any fan of Pat's universe, too.
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Inaugural Baseball Hall of Fame Ballot
Here are the players who will be on the ballot for the inaugural Hall of Fame class, to be inducted in 1926. I have listed them in two groups: pitchers and position players. In each group, the players are listed alphabetically.
I have eliminated some players who "inherited" most of their statistics from their imports when I began the Pat O'Farrell universe. All stats recorded in 1904 or after were recorded in OOTP play. Voters: Send your ballot, containing up to 10 players from this list, in a private message to Big Six by Tuesday, March 22. If you would like to publicize your choices and discuss them, please feel free to do so in this forum. Thanks, and have fun! PITCHERS MORDECAI BROWN: 1903-1914 229-133, 2.43. All-time career leader in ERA. MOP, 1907 and 1908. Five-time All-Star. 48 shutouts. Six consecutive 20-win seasons. Blew out his elbow while he was still pitching effectively. BILL BURNS: 1908-1920 245-179, 2.82. MOP, 1909 and 1912. Seven-time All-Star. Won 27 games in a season twice; at least 20 six times. 49 shutouts. Like Brown, suffered career-ending arm injury while he still had something left. JACK CHESBRO: 1899-1912 240-158, 2.84. Five 20-win seasons, three after simulation began. JACK COOMBS: 1906-1921 236-163, 3.21. Won 20 or more games five times; Fractured Skull and Ruptured Disc Back cost him that milestone in 2 other seasons. Eight All-Star appearances. MOP, 1911 (26-12, 2.99). JEAN DUBUC: 1908-1922 255-194, 3.19. Won at least 20 games seven times. One of Cincinnati’s “Big Three” with Roy Hitt and Del Mason; won 2 Series and six pennants. MOP, 1913 (21-10, 2.03) ADDIE JOSS: 1902-1919 325-260, 2.84. Third all-time in wins. MOP, 1907 (27-11, 1.98). Nine times a 20-game winner (all in the simulation). Seven All-Star appearances. Nine Slick Fielder awards. LEFTY LEIFIELD: 1905-1919 227-172, 2,95. Four-time 20-game winner, with a then-NL record 29 wins in 1911. Four-time All-Star. Won two WS rings with Pirates. DEL MASON: 1904-1922 305-182, 2.95. 2757 strikeouts, fifth all-time. 48 shutouts, tied for 5th all-time. Nine All-Star appearances. Four-time MOP: 1910, 1911, 1915, 1916. Won at least 20 games ten times, nine consecutively, including seasons of 29, 28, and 27 victories. Five ERA titles; four strikeout crowns; two league leads in victories. Won two World Series and five pennants with Reds 1910-1914 juggernaut. CHRISTY MATHEWSON: 1900-1918 340-191, 2.64. Second all-time in wins; leads all retired pitchers with 2769 Ks. Nine 20-win seasons (7 after OOTP simulation began). Six-time All-Star. Won two World Series with Red Sox and one with Giants. GEORGE MULLIN: 1902-1921 277-237, 3.18. Won at least 20 games five times as ace of outstanding Detroit teams of the teens. One World Series ring. JACK POWELL: 1897-1911 261-230, 3.18. Pitched for subpar Browns teams most of his career. Won 20 or more games six times, three in the simulation. CY YOUNG: 1890-1908 441-264, 2.73. Career leader in wins, losses, complete games, and shutouts, although all but five seasons came pre-simulation. Three 20-win seasons with Red Sox in OOTP. Bone Chips Shoulder struck in 1907, and he tried unsuccessful 2-game comeback in ’08. IRV YOUNG: 1905-1918 230-201, 3.15. Won 20 or more games five times as ace of lousy Braves teams. MOP, 1909 (25-10, 2.57). Four All-Star appearances. POSITION PLAYERS FRANK BAKER: 1908-1923 .283-63-1011. 2084 hits. Four-time All-Star. Won 11 Slick Fielder awards at 3B, a total unmatched by any other player at any position. Home run champion in 1911 with 14. GINGER BEAUMONT: 1899-1916 .325-49-1034. 2849 hits. MOB, 1914 (.377-1-87). Five All-Star appearances. Holds NL record for hits in a season with 222. Won World Series with Pirates in 1905. DAVE BRAIN: 1901, 1903-1917 .279-55-989. 2155 hits. Five Slick Fielder awards at 3B. Four-time All-Star. ROGER BRESNAHAN: 1897, 1900-1917 .301-63-922. Leads all catchers with 2052 hits. 1196 runs scored, 1030 walks. Eight-time All-Star. Three Slick Fielder awards at C. BILL CARRIGAN: 1908-1922 .276-11-545. 1070 hits. Three-time All-Star. Leads all catchers with five Slick Fielder awards. Key member of Red Sox teams that won eight pennants and seven World Series. SAM CRAWFORD: 1899-1920 .305-108-1551. 3077 hits. Ranks near top in many offensive categories, including 2nd all time in RBI. MOB 1908 (.326-15-115). Six-time All-Star. Two WS championships with Tigers. TED EASTERLY: 1909-1922 .321-9-643. Lifetime average is best among catchers. 1411 hits. Four All-Star selections. Won 3 World Series with Giants of late 10s/early 20s. CHARLIE HICKMAN: 1897-1914 .295-81-1081. 2122 hits. Two-time All-Star. One Slick Fielder award at 1B. One WS championship and several pennants with Reds teams of the teens. CHARLIE “HOME RUN” JOHNSON: 1908-1923 .311-53-915. 2072 hits. A broken knee ended his career prematurely; he had hit over .320 for four consecutive seasons. Six All-Star appearances, and a Slick Fielder award in CF. WILLIE KEELER: 1892-1911 .350-42-933. 3115 hits, over 1700 runs scored. Most of his career came pre-simulation. NAP LAJOIE: 1896-1913 .335-75-1430. 2789 hits, 566 doubles. Three-time All-Star. Six Slick Fielder Awards. TOMMY LEACH: 1898-1916 .295-63-1160. 2684 hits, 1428 runs scored. Six All-Star appearances. Won WS rings with Pirates in 1905 and 1907. CLYDE MILAN: 1907-1923 .282-62-942. 2161 hits, 1197 runs scored, 540 steals. Three All-Star appearances. Two Slick Fielder awards in CF. MIKE MITCHELL: 1907-1919 .308-27-821. 2029 hits, 982 runs scored, 458 steals. Key member of six NL pennant winning Reds teams; won two WS rings. Four All-Star selections. Two Slick Fielder awards in RF. GEORGE MORIARTY: 1903-1923. .308-57-1042. 2798 hits, 1431 runs scored, 814 steals. MOB, 1911 (.368-7-123). Ten-time All-Star. RED MURRAY: 1906-1923 .294-75-1007. 2299 hits, 1119 runs scored. Three All-Star appearances. JIM NEALON: 1906-1923 .289-150-1460. 2662 hits. Third all-time in home runs; 6th in RBI. Seven-time All-Star. Won three home run titles and 2 RBI crowns. SIMON NICHOLLS: 1903, 1906-1923 .296-118-1127. 2674 hits. 1270 runs scored. Seventh all-time in home runs, in top ten in homers seven times. Four-time All-Star. One Slick Fielder award at SS. CLAUDE RITCHEY: 1897-1913 .295-31-1061. 2436 hits, 1127 runs scored. Three-time All-Star, with one Slick Fielder award at 2B. FRANK SCHULTE: 1904-1918 .292-94-1010. 2036 hits. Five-time All-Star. Five Slick Fielder awards. SYD SMITH: 1908-1923 .301-45-707. 1541 hits. Four-time All-Star catcher. HONUS WAGNER: 1897-1913 .343-85-1421. 2877 hits, 529 2B, 658 steals. Eight-time All-Star. Four-time MOB winner: 1905, 1907-1909. World Series winner with Pirates in 1905 and 1907.
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Maybe there should be a 2 or 3 year min. on being on the voting list. They may not stack up against this list (b/c it covers so many players), but might be worthy and better than other selections.
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This list was very hard to come up with. There were some guys I felt deserved to be in the Hall, but just missed out. 3 Finger Brown was perhaps the toughest cut.
PITCHERS ADDIE JOSS: 1902-1919 Joss' 300 wins was an outstanding amount, but his losses mounted. 9 time 20 game winner was important. DEL MASON: 1904-1922 Almost automatic to me. A legend in this universe. CHRISTY MATHEWSON: 1900-1918 300 wins and an Hall worthy career. CY YOUNG: 1890-1908 Leader in wins. Great ERA. Injuries mounted. I don't mind that most of his sucess was pre-storyline. POSITION PLAYERS GINGER BEAUMONT: 1899-1916 Great average, nearly 3,000 hits. ROGER BRESNAHAN: 1897, 1900-1917 One of best at his position (C). SAM CRAWFORD: 1899-1920 Perhaps the best hitter up to this point in history. Easy selection. WILLIE KEELER: 1892-1911 3,000 hits and did everything (except great power by today's standards). NAP LAJOIE: 1896-1913 Great offense and great defense. Easy pick. HONUS WAGNER: 1897-1913 Did everything, had plenty of All-Stars. Lacked a MVP, but great for a SS.
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I am going to amend the rule about players remaining on the ballot for this first induction class. The players on this first ballot who are not voted in will all remain on the ballot for three years, regardless of how many votes they receive. Thanks, William!
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Three Finger was hard to leave off my ballot and deserves a place in the Hall. You might even want to mention first ballot HOF's or maybe have a veteran committe vote for guys that don't make the 5%. Just an idea ![]()
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first off, I have been reading about Pat since the first week you started it. I have posted once I think, but I am an original and get the changes e-mailed to me at once. I am not a message board person, but I talk about yours to friends, and think that You are a very clever writer. You have talent, and a little luck about how this turned out for Pat and for the Red Sox. Kudos.
Now Onto the ballot. Pitchers: Addie Joss Mathewson Cy Young 3 Fingers Brown Del Mason Position Players: Sam Crawford Willie Keller Nap Lajoie Honus Wagner (I hope first player in history to get 100% of vote) and my surprise pick... Jim Nealon (hard to leave of the first REAL home run Champ) Thanks again for a real great story, and making me check the Boston Post everyday to find out how my favorite team did last night. I hope that my son can meet and get an autograph of Pat someday. He is 5 and Pat's biggest fan. He has all his favorite baseball cards, a waste of money his mother says, but maybe someday it could be a commodity.
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My ballot:
1. Honus Wagner 2. Mike Mitchell 3. Sam Crawford 4. Frank Baker 5. Ginger Beaumont 6. Mordecai Brown 7. Addie Joss 8. Christy Mathewson 9. Cy Young 10. Roger Bresnahan The only one I wasn't real certain on was Mitchell, but I give him credit for his career taking place entirely during the simulation, unlike a lot of these other guys. Ginger Beaumont=Best.Name.Ever.
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I think what happens in a player's career after the simulation begins counts for something, too. I'm using it as a sort of tiebreaking factor--if I'm looking at two guys as candidates for a spot on my ballot, I'll take into consideration how each of them did after they imported.
I would never have guessed that the retired players who have recorded the most hits in the simulation would be George Moriarty and Jim Nealon!! Ty Cobb, who is still active and whose entire career has been simulated, is the all time leader in hits. Del Mason leads all HoF-eligible pitchers in "OOTP wins," with 305. Addie Joss is right behind him with 290. So far, seven ballots have been turned in, and mine will make eight. I hope more will appear in the next few days. Otherwise, six votes will be needed for induction.
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Mordecai Brown
Addie Joss Cy Young Christy Mathewson Del Mason Sam Crawford Willie Keeler Honus Wagner Roger Breshnahan Nap Lajoie Beuamont and Nealon get my votes next year!
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1926 balloting ends tomorrow
Anyone who is still interested in submitting a ballot for the inaugural Hall of Fame class may still do so! The balloting ends tomorrow.
The more, the merrier...and the better the process will work. Thanks!
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The inaugural Hall of Fame class
The balloting has been completed for the inaugural class of Hall of Famers, the Class of 1926!
Ten voters cast ballots, so a minimum of eight votes were required for induction. Here are the complete results: Sam Crawford: 10 Addie Joss: 10 Christy Mathewson: 10 Honus Wagner: 10 Cy Young: 10 Del Mason: 9 Ginger Beaumont: 6 Roger Bresnahan: 6 Willie Keeler: 6 Nap Lajoie: 6 Mordecai Brown: 5 George Moriarty: 4 Frank Baker: 2 Jim Nealon: 2 Ted Easterly: 1 Mike Mitchell: 1 Sixteen players received at least one vote. All the players who appeared on the 1926 ballot and were not elected to the Hall will be carried over to the 1927 ballot. They'll be joined by several strong candidates who retired after the 1924 season. The induction news will be reported in the main Pat O'Farrell thread tonight or tomorrow, and I'll start the 1927 election process tomorrow, too. Thanks to all of you who cast a ballot!
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No problem, Cheena. The next year's balloting will begin today, so you'll have a chance to join in right away.
In one way, I'm not surprised the voting came out the way it did this time. The players end up sorted into several groups. First, there are the biggest stars, who were consensus choices. After them, there is a group of major stars who all got several votes, and who look like good bets for induction soon. Then, there are a handful of players who also have strong credentials, but who didn't draw much support this time because the legends were still on the ballot. They got a vote or two, or weren't listed on a ballot, but might draw strong support in later elections when the field isn't so packed. Nobody seemed to have any problems choosing ten players to list on the ballot; I had a hard time limiting my ballot to ten. The enshrinees retired in 1908 (Young), 1913 (Wagner), 1918 (Mathewson), 1919 (Joss), 1920 (Crawford), and 1922 (Mason). Naturally, we'll never see a group like that again. We enshrined six players in our first class; the "real" Hall chose five. Pretty cool, I think. I'll now post the ballot for the 1927 election, and while I continue the story of the 1926 season in TBBLOPF, I'll prepare the Hall of Fame plaques for our first six members. Thanks again for your participation!
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Awesome Big Six! Side note, I'll be out of town till Monday, so don't close balloting too soon please
I want my vote to count!PS It was hard not to vote for Bill, just to give him a vote. If he was on next year's ballot, you never know Trading Babe brought him down a snitch though ![]()
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1927 Hall of Fame Balloting begins!
Here is the Hall of Fame ballot for 1927. Voters have until Thursday, March 31 to cast their ballots. Newly eligible players are listed in red, and their achievements have been summarized for you. PITCHERS MORDECAI BROWN: 1903-1914 229-133, 2.43. All-time career leader in ERA. MOP, 1907 and 1908. Five-time All-Star. 48 shutouts. Six consecutive 20-win seasons. Blew out his elbow while he was still pitching effectively. BILL BURNS: 1908-1920 245-179, 2.82. MOP, 1909 and 1912. Seven-time All-Star. Won 27 games in a season twice; at least 20 six times. 49 shutouts. Like Brown, suffered career-ending arm injury while he still had something left. ROY CASTLETON: 1907-1924 247-200, 3.48. Castleton toiled for Yankees and Dodgers teams that were usually mediocre, but ran off a string of nine consecutive seasons with at least 18 victories, including five 20-win campaigns. American League MOP, 1917 (23-12, 2.98). Five All-Star selections. JACK CHESBRO: 1899-1912 240-158, 2.84. Five 20-win seasons, three after simulation began. JACK COOMBS: 1906-1921 236-163, 3.21. Won 20 or more games five times; Fractured Skull and Ruptured Disc Back cost him that milestone in 2 other seasons. Eight All-Star appearances. MOP, 1911 (26-12, 2.99). JEAN DUBUC: 1908-1922 255-194, 3.19. Won at least 20 games seven times. One of Cincinnati’s “Big Three” with Roy Hitt and Del Mason; won 2 Series and six pennants. MOP, 1913 (21-10, 2.03) LEFTY LEIFIELD: 1905-1919 227-172, 2,95. Four-time 20-game winner, with a then-NL record 29 wins in 1911. Four-time All-Star. Won two WS rings with Pirates. GEORGE MULLIN: 1902-1921 277-237, 3.18. Won at least 20 games five times as ace of outstanding Detroit teams of the teens. One World Series ring. BILL OTEY: 1907-1924 198-143, 3.55. "Steamboat Bill" holds the National League record for strikeouts in a season (362, 1915). He whiffed at least 300 batters in three consecutive seasons, 1913-1915, and barely missed making it five straight--he rang up 298 Ks in 1912 and 299 in 1916. Fourth all-time in strikeouts, with 2,421. NL MOP, 1918 (25-14, 3.28). Won a WS ring with the '07 Pirates. Six All-Star appearances. Three 20-win seasons, but he also won 19 games four times; his Pirates teams were usually not big winners. JACK POWELL: 1897-1911 261-230, 3.18. Pitched for subpar Browns teams most of his career. Won 20 or more games six times, three in the simulation. IRV YOUNG: 1905-1918 230-201, 3.15. Won 20 or more games five times as ace of lousy Braves teams. MOP, 1909 (25-10, 2.57). Four All-Star appearances. POSITION PLAYERS: FRANK BAKER: 1908-1923 .283-63-1011. 2084 hits. Four-time All-Star. Won 11 Slick Fielder awards at 3B, a total unmatched by any other player at any position. Home run champion in 1911 with 14. GINGER BEAUMONT: 1899-1916 .325-49-1034. 2849 hits. MOB, 1914 (.377-1-87). Five All-Star appearances. Holds NL record for hits in a season with 222. Won World Series with Pirates in 1905. DAVE BRAIN: 1901, 1903-1917 .279-55-989. 2155 hits. Five Slick Fielder awards at 3B. Four-time All-Star. ROGER BRESNAHAN: 1897, 1900-1917 .301-63-922. Leads all catchers with 2052 hits. 1196 runs scored, 1030 walks. Eight-time All-Star. Three Slick Fielder awards at C. BILL CARRIGAN: 1908-1922 .276-11-545. 1070 hits. Three-time All-Star. Leads all catchers with five Slick Fielder awards. Key member of Red Sox teams that won eight pennants and seven World Series. DONIE BUSH: 1908-1924 .301-45-953. 2161 runs, 1215 runs scored, 1124 walks. Six-time All-Star on strong Tigers teams. Three Slick Fielder awards at short TED EASTERLY: 1909-1922 .321-9-643. Lifetime average is best among catchers. 1411 hits. Four All-Star selections. Won 3 World Series with Giants of late 10s/early 20s. RUBE ELLIS: 1909-1924 .314-24-820. 2037 hits, 1054 runs scored, 530 stolen bases. NL MOB, 1917 (.338-5-79; led league in BA, SLG). Four All-Star selections and two Slick Fielder Awards in the outfield. Spent entire career with Cardinals; won two pennants and 1923 WS with them. BUCK HERZOG: 1908-1924 .314-34-1260. 2538 hits, 1576 runs scored, 1106 walks, 834 steals. NL MOB, 1918 (.370-3-117). 1918 NL batting champ; led league in OBP four times, OPS twice. Eleven All-Star appearances and three Slick Fielder awards at 2B. Played on Giants teams that won 5 World Series and 7 pennants. CHARLIE HICKMAN: 1897-1914 .295-81-1081. 2122 hits. Two-time All-Star. One Slick Fielder award at 1B. One WS championship and several pennants with Reds teams of the teens. CHARLIE “HOME RUN” JOHNSON: 1908-1923 .311-53-915. 2072 hits. A broken knee ended his career prematurely; he had hit over .320 for four consecutive seasons. Six All-Star appearances, and a Slick Fielder award in CF. WILLIE KEELER: 1892-1911 .350-42-933. 3115 hits, over 1700 runs scored. Most of his career came pre-simulation. NAP LAJOIE: 1896-1913 .335-75-1430. 2789 hits, 566 doubles. Three-time All-Star. Six Slick Fielder Awards. TOMMY LEACH: 1898-1916 .295-63-1160. 2684 hits, 1428 runs scored. Six All-Star appearances. Won WS rings with Pirates in 1905 and 1907. TOMMY McMILLAN: 1908-1924 .294-20-743. 2344 hits, 1306 runs scored, 647 steals. Excellent glove man--won 5 NL Slick Fielder awards at short during his career with the Dodgers and Reds. 3 All-Star appearances. Starred on 1915 Reds NL championship team. CLYDE MILAN: 1907-1923 .282-62-942. 2161 hits, 1197 runs scored, 540 steals. Three All-Star appearances. Two Slick Fielder awards in CF. MIKE MITCHELL: 1907-1919 .308-27-821. 2029 hits, 982 runs scored, 458 steals. Key member of six NL pennant winning Reds teams; won two WS rings. Four All-Star selections. Two Slick Fielder awards in RF. GEORGE MORIARTY: 1903-1923. .308-57-1042. 2798 hits, 1431 runs scored, 814 steals. MOB, 1911 (.368-7-123). Ten-time All-Star. RED MURRAY: 1906-1923 .294-75-1007. 2299 hits, 1119 runs scored. Thre |