VOTE: Time Warp HOF Ballot 1955

Matt from TN · 04-19-2005, 12:42 PM

1936 Initial Ballot Results, 1937 Results, 1938 Results, 1939 Results, 1940 Results,
1941 Results, 1942 Results, 1943 Results, 1944 Results, 1945 Results,
1946 Results, 1947 Results, 1948 Results, 1949 Results, 1950 Results
1951 Results, 1952 Results, 1953 Results, 1954 Results

Six players were elected to the RL HOF in 1954. Four players by the baseball writers: Joe DiMaggio, Ted Lyons, Dazzy Vance and Gabby Hartnett. Two players by the VC: Frank "Home Run" Baker and Ray Schalk.

All players who received at least 5% of votes on the last ballot were retained for this ballot. I also added players who became eligible for the ballot in 1955 (retired after 1949 season).

All players not receiving 5% of votes on this ballot will be removed. Also, all players who have been retired for 20 years fall off this ballot if not elected.

Vote for as many or as few as you want. Max votes are 10.

HOF Standard: 50 is considered an average HOF'er. 100 is max.

Batters

Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
AVG: .364
Hits: 4000
HR: 557
RBI: 1906
2B: 665
BB: 1962
R: 2004
SB: 1290

Willard Schwarz, C, Last Season: 1937, HOF Standard: 41
2050 H, 359 2B, 340 HR, 1399 RBI, 1106 R, 614 K, 595 BB, 14 SB, .260 AVG, .760 OPS
BOY Award: 1932
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 8
Pennants: 6
WS Victories: 5
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 1, HR 3, RBI 1, R 1
Career Top 25: HR (4)

Jon Minzey, CF, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57
2988 H, 430 2B, 54 HR, 1098 RBI, 1568 R, 600 K, 710 BB, 364 SB, .316 AVG, .801 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 4
Pennants: 5
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 3B 1
Career Top 25: Runs (23), Hits (23)

Troy Kinnear, 3B, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57
2412 H, 602 2B, 332 HR, 1595 RBI, 1423 R, 933 K, 1407 BB, 46 SB, .272 AVG, .858 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 2B 1, HR 1, BB 1
Career Top 25: 2B (6), HR (6), RBI (14), BB (15)

Quenton Misisca, 1B, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 44
2629 H, 640 2B, 397 HR, 1787 RBI, 1419 R, 464 K, 759 BB, 26 SB, .286 AVG, .836 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 1, 2B 1, HR 4, RBI 3
Career Top 25: HR (2), RBI (4), 2B (5)

Harry Finley, C, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 44
1982 H, 373 2B, 87 HR, 910 RBI, 1139 R, 788 K, 508 BB, 632 SB, .288 AVG, .761 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 10
Pennants: 7
WS Victories: 5
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 3B 2
Career Top 25: SB (14)

Dave "Red Fox" Arkless, CF, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 55
2439 H, 401 2B, 285 HR, 1292 RBI, 1418 R, 453 K, 1036 BB, 140 SB, .297 AVG, .855 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 7
Pennants: 2
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: 1
Led League in: Hits 2, Runs 1
Career Top 25: HR (13)

Ricardo "Tiny" Bowden, SS, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 57
2510 H, 541 2B, 68 HR, 888 RBI, 1352 R, 648 K, 514 BB, 657 SB, .318 AVG, .816 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1928
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: 2
Led League in: Hits 1, 2B 2, 3B 1, Runs 3
Career Top 25: 2B (14), SB (12)

Adolf "The Human Torch" Greisbach, SS, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 60
2847 H, 384 2B, 53 HR, 898 RBI, 1311 R, 573 K, 1026 BB, 221 SB, .346 AVG, .853 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: 2
Led League in: OBP 1, Hits 4
Career Top 25: AVG (7)

David "Pops" McAuliffe, 3B, Last Season: 1945, HOF Standard: 55
3525 H, 596 2B, 177 HR, 1570 RBI, 1522 R, 797 K, 846 BB, 155 SB, .300 AVG, .769 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1923
Gold Gloves: 3
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: Hits (3), 2B (7), RBI (15)

Alan Liao, 3B, Last Season: 1946, HOF Standard: 65
3065 H, 527 2B, 144 HR, 1349 RBI, 1616 R, 476 K, 1482 BB, 270 SB, .301 AVG, .805 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 2B 1, Runs 1, BB 1
Career Top 25: Hits (19), 2B (21), Runs (17), BB (11)

Bobby Martin, 2B, Last Season: 1946, HOF Standard: 59
2623 H, 548 2B, 124 HR, 1151 RBI, 1349 R, 621 K, 1007 BB, 21 SB, .319 AVG, .858 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1931
Gold Gloves: 1
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: 1
Led League in: OBP 1, OPS 1, Hits 1, 2B 2, 3B 1
Career Top 25: 2B (11)

Leonard "Sunny" Davie, C, Last Season: 1948, HOF Standard: 64
2639 H, 533 2B, 254 HR, 1368 RBI, 1592 R, 887 K, 1534 BB, 285 SB, .285 AVG, .832 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: OBP 1, SLG 1, OPS 2, Runs 1, BB 2
Career Top 25: HR (20), 2B (18), BB (7), R (21)

Swervin' Ervin Skjerly, 2B/CF, Last Season: 1948, HOF Standard: 57
2819 H, 388 2B, 85 HR, 1199 RBI, 1402 R, 895 K, 1203 BB, 284 SB, .308 AVG, .795 OPS
BOY Award: 1935
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 10
WS Victories: 6
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: RBI 1, BB 1
Career Top 25: NONE

Ted Stuart, SS, Last Season: 1948, HOF Standard: 31
1800 H, 258 2B, 45 HR, 757 RBI, 797 R, 631 K, 547 BB, 31 SB, .296 AVG, .749 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 9
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE

NEW

Dale Lamberty, 3B, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 58
2521 H, 349 2B, 362 HR, 1494 RBI, 1636 R, 1190 K, 1770 BB, 31 SB, .279 AVG, .868 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1930
Gold Gloves: 8
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: OBP 1, SLG 2, OPS 2, HR 1, BB 7
Career Top 25: HR (3), RBI (18), BB (2), R (14)

Dewey Mickelsen, LF, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 50
2560 H, 329 2B, 335 HR, 1322 RBI, 1431 R, 589 K, 1138 BB, 17 SB, .294 AVG, .857 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 3
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 2, OPS 1, HR 1, BB 1
Career Top 25: HR (6)

Ping Hung, CF, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 50
2552 H, 306 2B, 55 HR, 933 RBI, 1360 R, 549 K, 729 BB, 828 SB, .338 AVG, .830 OPS
BOY Award: 1942
ROY Award: 1930
Gold Gloves: 3
Pennants: 7
WS Victories: 5
Batting Titles: 1
Led League in: OBP 1, Hits 2, Runs 1, SB 7
Career Top 25: AVG (14), SB (4)

Rudy Young, RF, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 39
2356 H, 299 2B, 105 HR, 1059 RBI, 1174 R, 702 K, 1231 BB, 52 SB, .299 AVG, .797 OPS
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1
Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: 1
Led League in: OBP 1
Career Top 25: NONE

Bud Breckenridge, CF, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 61
2434 H, 304 2B, 180 HR, 1232 RBI, 1580 R, 792 K, 1437 BB, 759 SB, .303 AVG, .857 OPS
BOY Award: 1942
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: 1
Led League in: OBP 4, OPS 1, 3B 2, Runs 4, BB 2
Career Top 25: Runs (23), BB (14), SB (7)

Pitchers

Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
ERA: 2.10
W: 446
K: 3407
CG: 601
SHO: 95

Luke Riley, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 53
272-138, 66.3%, 3.34 ERA, 3746.2 IP, 967 BB, 1611 K, 350 CG, 39 SHO, 1.24 WHIP
POY Award: 1934, 1935
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: 6
WS Victories: 5
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: ERA 1, WHIP 1, Wins 3, IP 1, K's 1, CG 4, SHO 2
Career Top 25: NONE

Terry Schukraft, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 51
332-255, 56.6%, 3.73 ERA, 5516.2 IP, 1764 BB, 2056 K, 428 CG, 39 SHO, 1.27 WHIP
POY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: 5
WS Victories: 4
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: IP 1, CG 2, SHO 1
Career Top 25: Wins (10), K (21), CG (14)

Art Booth, Last Season: 1944, HOF Standard: 48
284-165, 63.3%, 3.64 ERA, 4262.1 IP, 1402 BB, 1758 K, 339 CG, 30 SHO, 1.34 WHIP
POY Award: 1938, 1942
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: 6
WS Victories: 4
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: ERA 2, Wins 1, IP 1, CG 1, SHO 2
Career Top 25: Wins (19)

Mark Ponfick, Last Season: 1945, HOF Standard: 55
334-252, 57.0%, 3.82 ERA, 5596 IP, 1184 BB, 2505 K, 463 CG, 41 SHO, 1.22 WHIP
POY Award: 1944
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 2
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: WHIP 2, Wins 1
Career Top 25: Wins (9), K's (5), CG (5), SHO (25)

NEW

Bob Guilderson, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 55
239-217, 52.4%, 3.84 ERA, 4336.2 IP, 2298 BB, 2036 K, 304 CG, 31 SHO, 1.45 WHIP
POY Award: 1940
ROY Award: 1935
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: NONE
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: ERA 1, Losses 1, IP 2, K's 1, BB 4, CG 1
Career Top 25: K's (22)

ifspuds · 04-19-2005, 12:53 PM

Kinnear
Misisca
Greisbach
McAuliffe
Davie
Lamberty
Breckenridge
Riley
Ponfick

Oops... just realized I'd only voted for 9.

Please add Mickelsen to my ballot.

Vris · 04-19-2005, 01:14 PM

Arrrgh....

The Easy Ones:
Riley
Schukraft
Ponfick
Booth

Not So Easy:
Kinnear
Finley
Skjerly
Misisca
McAuliffe
Ping Hung (only because Lamberty is getting in either way)

ifspuds · 04-19-2005, 01:24 PM

It's time to break out the Bud Breckenridge campaign, with a bio written by Jack McKinley, longtime Pirates beat writer from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Bud Breckenridge
Center Field, Pittsburgh Pirates (1929-1949)

Career Numbers:
2434 Hits
304 Doubles
164 Triples
180 Home Runs
1232 RBI
1580 R (21st All-Time)
792 K
1437 BB (14th All-Time)
759 SB (7th All-Time)
.303 Average
.408 On-base Percentage
.449 Slugging Percentage

8-time All-Star
1942 Batter of the Year
5-time Batter of the Month
Top 10s: AVG (5), OBP (11, 4 1sts), SLG (6), OPS (10, 1 1st), H (5), 2B (1), 3B (9, 2 1sts), HR (3), RBI (3), R (10, 4 1sts), BB (13, 2 1sts), SB (14)

Coming into the league at a time when home runs were becoming more a part of the offensive game, Bud Breckenridge was a throw-back to an earlier time in Time Warp Baseball. His game was about speed. Stolen bases, triples, diving catches in the outfield, even the way he took first on a walk, it seemed like he was a coiled spring just waiting for a chance to zip from place to place. He stole 40 or more bases 12 straight seasons (50+ in 5 of those seasons, 60+ in 2) and hit double figures in triples 8 times in an era when triples all but disappeared from the offensive landscape. Every time he hit the ball, you wanted to cheer for him to stretch it. He never hit a lot of doubles, but he was such a smart and daring baserunner that he often stretched doubles into three-baggers, diving into third base in a cloud of dirt and legs and flying caps and popping to his feet grinning like a kid who'd just found the key to the candy store. But he could pop the ball over the fence too, going for double figures in home runs 11 times, hitting 19, 18 and 18 from 1938-1940. His 1942 Batter of the Year wasn't his best season, but when you were a contemporary of Oscar "The Kid" Vancini, Batter of the Year awards were a rarity. Consider some of these seasons that ranked among his best (and better than 1942), only to have Vancini steal the limelight with his prodigious power numbers:

1936: .321/.414/.512, 31 2B, 18 3B, 12 HR, 79 RBI, 101 runs, 55 SB
1938: .325/.444/.541, 33 2B, 10 3B, 19 HR, 89 RBI, 135 runs, 57 SB
1940: .321/.432/.507, 16 2B, 13 3B, 18 HR, 92 RBI, 101 runs, 47 SB
1945: .345/.457/.479, 18 2B, 15 3B, 7 HR, 101 RBI, 107 runs, 49 SB

As I wrote of Breckenridge in 1936, "He never had the power that Sam (Kass, Pirates' Hall of Fame center fielder) did, but he was one of the most exciting players to watch that the Pirates had fielded in years. When he got on the basepaths, a buzz started rising in the stands. He would dance around first base, back and forth, doing everything he could to throw the pitcher off his game, and the whole while he’d be grinning like he knew something everyone else didn’t. And more times than not, he’d be off for second base like a shot from a gun. Could he hit? You bet he could. 31 doubles, 18 triples, 12 homers, a .321 average. He was a show waiting to happen all by himself."

For a team that finished above 4th place just twice in his career and had a winning record only 6 of his 20 seasons, Bud Breckenridge often was the only attraction bringing fans to the ballpark. He was something like a god in Pittsburgh, with his trademark grin endorsing everything from car dealerships to breakfast cereal to grocery stores. He scored over 100 runs 8 times, a notable achievement for a player on such a bedraggled team. Consider also that his career didn't really begin until 1934, when Sam Kass was traded to the Washington Senators. The Pirates had an embarrassment of riches at center field, but couldn't find a way to get both Breckenridge and Kass in the lineup at the same time. Still, in part time duty from 1929 to 1933, Breckenridge shone. In 1932, in 153 at-bats, Breckenridge hit .373/.503/.582 with 14 steals. He followed that up in 1933 with a .353/.438/.424 line, stealing 22 bases and getting caught just a single time, an indication of the seasons that would await him when he was handed the full-time job at the age of 24.

metsgeek · 04-19-2005, 02:09 PM

Jeez, rough again this year. I don't see how anyone can vote for less than 10. And the people who just vote for 1 are either spiteful or deluded. High standards, my ass.

Kinnear
Minzey
Greisbach
Misisca
Liao
Mcauliffe
Lamberty
Hung
Breckenridge
Riley

ifspuds · 04-19-2005, 02:12 PM

Agreed, metsgeek. There's a huge backlog of batters that are HoF-worthy.

Dagrims · 04-19-2005, 02:26 PM

Sure are a ton of batters that I consider to be in the same tier. My ballot:

Kinnear
McAuliffe
Misisca
Schwarz
Lamberty
Breckenridge
Hung
Riley
Schukraft
Ponfick

Matt from TN · 04-19-2005, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ifspuds

Agreed, metsgeek. There's a huge backlog of batters that are HoF-worthy.

IMO, I would be happy if everyone one this list that's heldover from previous seasons got in.

rogmax11 · 04-19-2005, 03:28 PM

This gets tougher every year:

Lamberty
Hung
Greisbach
Breckenridge ( nice PR job, there )
Riley
Ponfick
Booth
Arkless
Liao
Misisca

Ankhiel · 04-19-2005, 05:19 PM

Schwarz
Minzey
Greishbach
Liao

pat · 04-19-2005, 06:58 PM

Minzey
Kinnear
Bowden
Greisbach
Liao
Martin
Davie
Lamberty
Breckenridge
Ponfick

cknox0723 · 04-19-2005, 07:13 PM

schwarz
misisca
greisbach
breckenridge
riley
booth
ponfick

Dagrims · 04-19-2005, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vris

Arrrgh....

(only because Lamberty is getting in either way)

You may end up being surprised.

Vris · 04-19-2005, 09:21 PM

Well, maybe. I know there is a big following behind him on our boards. I think he'll make it. If we get around 18-22 voters, I can't see that many people leaving him off.

Ankhiel · 04-19-2005, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsgeek

Jeez, rough again this year. I don't see how anyone can vote for less than 10. And the people who just vote for 1 are either spiteful or deluded. High standards, my ass.

i voted for 4 :P

metsgeek · 04-19-2005, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankhiel

i voted for 4 :P

So, which one are you?

bigjas · 04-20-2005, 12:32 AM

Where's the love for Sunny Davie? He was only the best catcher of his generation.

Alan Liao
Leonard Davie
Bud Breckenridge
Adolf Greisbach
Bobby Martin
Dale Lamberty
Jon Minzey
Troy Kinnear
Ricardo Bowden
Ervin Skjerly

BPS · 04-20-2005, 02:01 AM

Stuart
Hung
Misisca
Riley
Kinnear
Greisbach
Lamberty
Liao
Mcauliffe
Minzey

tward13 · 04-20-2005, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankhiel

i voted for 4 :P

Why?

I can see disagreements with people's choices (my 10 vs. someone else's 10) since people favor different stats or accomplishments.

But so you really think only 4 guys on this list are worthy? Will you never vote for the guys you've left off? Or is this some other point you're trying to make?

tward13 · 04-20-2005, 10:31 AM

McAullife
Misisca
Liao
Martin
Riley
Schukraft
Booth
Lamberty
Greisbach
Ponfick

04-19-2005, 12:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	VOTE: Time Warp HOF Ballot 1955 1936 Initial Ballot Results, 1937 Results, 1938 Results, 1939 Results, 1940 Results, 1941 Results, 1942 Results, 1943 Results, 1944 Results, 1945 Results, 1946 Results, 1947 Results, 1948 Results, 1949 Results, 1950 Results 1951 Results, 1952 Results, 1953 Results, 1954 Results Six players were elected to the RL HOF in 1954. Four players by the baseball writers: Joe DiMaggio, Ted Lyons, Dazzy Vance and Gabby Hartnett. Two players by the VC: Frank "Home Run" Baker and Ray Schalk. All players who received at least 5% of votes on the last ballot were retained for this ballot. I also added players who became eligible for the ballot in 1955 (retired after 1949 season). All players not receiving 5% of votes on this ballot will be removed. Also, all players who have been retired for 20 years fall off this ballot if not elected. Vote for as many or as few as you want. Max votes are 10. HOF Standard: 50 is considered an average HOF'er. 100 is max. Batters Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List): AVG: .364 Hits: 4000 HR: 557 RBI: 1906 2B: 665 BB: 1962 R: 2004 SB: 1290 Willard Schwarz, C, Last Season: 1937, HOF Standard: 41 2050 H, 359 2B, 340 HR, 1399 RBI, 1106 R, 614 K, 595 BB, 14 SB, .260 AVG, .760 OPS BOY Award: 1932 ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 8 Pennants: 6 WS Victories: 5 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: SLG 1, HR 3, RBI 1, R 1 Career Top 25: HR (4) Jon Minzey, CF, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57 2988 H, 430 2B, 54 HR, 1098 RBI, 1568 R, 600 K, 710 BB, 364 SB, .316 AVG, .801 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 4 Pennants: 5 WS Victories: 2 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 3B 1 Career Top 25: Runs (23), Hits (23) Troy Kinnear, 3B, Last Season: 1940, HOF Standard: 57 2412 H, 602 2B, 332 HR, 1595 RBI, 1423 R, 933 K, 1407 BB, 46 SB, .272 AVG, .858 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 2 Pennants: 1 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 2B 1, HR 1, BB 1 Career Top 25: 2B (6), HR (6), RBI (14), BB (15) Quenton Misisca, 1B, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 44 2629 H, 640 2B, 397 HR, 1787 RBI, 1419 R, 464 K, 759 BB, 26 SB, .286 AVG, .836 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 1 Pennants: 1 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: SLG 1, 2B 1, HR 4, RBI 3 Career Top 25: HR (2), RBI (4), 2B (5) Harry Finley, C, Last Season: 1941, HOF Standard: 44 1982 H, 373 2B, 87 HR, 910 RBI, 1139 R, 788 K, 508 BB, 632 SB, .288 AVG, .761 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 10 Pennants: 7 WS Victories: 5 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 3B 2 Career Top 25: SB (14) Dave "Red Fox" Arkless, CF, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 55 2439 H, 401 2B, 285 HR, 1292 RBI, 1418 R, 453 K, 1036 BB, 140 SB, .297 AVG, .855 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 7 Pennants: 2 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: 1 Led League in: Hits 2, Runs 1 Career Top 25: HR (13) Ricardo "Tiny" Bowden, SS, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 57 2510 H, 541 2B, 68 HR, 888 RBI, 1352 R, 648 K, 514 BB, 657 SB, .318 AVG, .816 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: 1928 Gold Gloves: NONE Pennants: NONE WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: 2 Led League in: Hits 1, 2B 2, 3B 1, Runs 3 Career Top 25: 2B (14), SB (12) Adolf "The Human Torch" Greisbach, SS, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 60 2847 H, 384 2B, 53 HR, 898 RBI, 1311 R, 573 K, 1026 BB, 221 SB, .346 AVG, .853 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 1 Pennants: 1 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: 2 Led League in: OBP 1, Hits 4 Career Top 25: AVG (7) David "Pops" McAuliffe, 3B, Last Season: 1945, HOF Standard: 55 3525 H, 596 2B, 177 HR, 1570 RBI, 1522 R, 797 K, 846 BB, 155 SB, .300 AVG, .769 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: 1923 Gold Gloves: 3 Pennants: 3 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: NONE Career Top 25: Hits (3), 2B (7), RBI (15) Alan Liao, 3B, Last Season: 1946, HOF Standard: 65 3065 H, 527 2B, 144 HR, 1349 RBI, 1616 R, 476 K, 1482 BB, 270 SB, .301 AVG, .805 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE Pennants: NONE WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: 2B 1, Runs 1, BB 1 Career Top 25: Hits (19), 2B (21), Runs (17), BB (11) Bobby Martin, 2B, Last Season: 1946, HOF Standard: 59 2623 H, 548 2B, 124 HR, 1151 RBI, 1349 R, 621 K, 1007 BB, 21 SB, .319 AVG, .858 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: 1931 Gold Gloves: 1 Pennants: 3 WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: 1 Led League in: OBP 1, OPS 1, Hits 1, 2B 2, 3B 1 Career Top 25: 2B (11) Leonard "Sunny" Davie, C, Last Season: 1948, HOF Standard: 64 2639 H, 533 2B, 254 HR, 1368 RBI, 1592 R, 887 K, 1534 BB, 285 SB, .285 AVG, .832 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE Pennants: 1 WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: OBP 1, SLG 1, OPS 2, Runs 1, BB 2 Career Top 25: HR (20), 2B (18), BB (7), R (21) Swervin' Ervin Skjerly, 2B/CF, Last Season: 1948, HOF Standard: 57 2819 H, 388 2B, 85 HR, 1199 RBI, 1402 R, 895 K, 1203 BB, 284 SB, .308 AVG, .795 OPS BOY Award: 1935 ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE Pennants: 10 WS Victories: 6 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: RBI 1, BB 1 Career Top 25: NONE Ted Stuart, SS, Last Season: 1948, HOF Standard: 31 1800 H, 258 2B, 45 HR, 757 RBI, 797 R, 631 K, 547 BB, 31 SB, .296 AVG, .749 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 9 Pennants: 4 WS Victories: 2 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: NONE Career Top 25: NONE NEW Dale Lamberty, 3B, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 58 2521 H, 349 2B, 362 HR, 1494 RBI, 1636 R, 1190 K, 1770 BB, 31 SB, .279 AVG, .868 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: 1930 Gold Gloves: 8 Pennants: 3 WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: OBP 1, SLG 2, OPS 2, HR 1, BB 7 Career Top 25: HR (3), RBI (18), BB (2), R (14) Dewey Mickelsen, LF, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 50 2560 H, 329 2B, 335 HR, 1322 RBI, 1431 R, 589 K, 1138 BB, 17 SB, .294 AVG, .857 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 3 Pennants: 3 WS Victories: 1 Batting Titles: NONE Led League in: SLG 2, OPS 1, HR 1, BB 1 Career Top 25: HR (6) Ping Hung, CF, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 50 2552 H, 306 2B, 55 HR, 933 RBI, 1360 R, 549 K, 729 BB, 828 SB, .338 AVG, .830 OPS BOY Award: 1942 ROY Award: 1930 Gold Gloves: 3 Pennants: 7 WS Victories: 5 Batting Titles: 1 Led League in: OBP 1, Hits 2, Runs 1, SB 7 Career Top 25: AVG (14), SB (4) Rudy Young, RF, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 39 2356 H, 299 2B, 105 HR, 1059 RBI, 1174 R, 702 K, 1231 BB, 52 SB, .299 AVG, .797 OPS BOY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: 1 Pennants: NONE WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: 1 Led League in: OBP 1 Career Top 25: NONE Bud Breckenridge, CF, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 61 2434 H, 304 2B, 180 HR, 1232 RBI, 1580 R, 792 K, 1437 BB, 759 SB, .303 AVG, .857 OPS BOY Award: 1942 ROY Award: NONE Gold Gloves: NONE Pennants: NONE WS Victories: NONE Batting Titles: 1 Led League in: OBP 4, OPS 1, 3B 2, Runs 4, BB 2 Career Top 25: Runs (23), BB (14), SB (7) Pitchers Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List): ERA: 2.10 W: 446 K: 3407 CG: 601 SHO: 95 Luke Riley, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 53 272-138, 66.3%, 3.34 ERA, 3746.2 IP, 967 BB, 1611 K, 350 CG, 39 SHO, 1.24 WHIP POY Award: 1934, 1935 ROY Award: NONE Pennants: 6 WS Victories: 5 No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: ERA 1, WHIP 1, Wins 3, IP 1, K's 1, CG 4, SHO 2 Career Top 25: NONE Terry Schukraft, Last Season: 1943, HOF Standard: 51 332-255, 56.6%, 3.73 ERA, 5516.2 IP, 1764 BB, 2056 K, 428 CG, 39 SHO, 1.27 WHIP POY Award: NONE ROY Award: NONE Pennants: 5 WS Victories: 4 No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: IP 1, CG 2, SHO 1 Career Top 25: Wins (10), K (21), CG (14) Art Booth, Last Season: 1944, HOF Standard: 48 284-165, 63.3%, 3.64 ERA, 4262.1 IP, 1402 BB, 1758 K, 339 CG, 30 SHO, 1.34 WHIP POY Award: 1938, 1942 ROY Award: NONE Pennants: 6 WS Victories: 4 No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: ERA 2, Wins 1, IP 1, CG 1, SHO 2 Career Top 25: Wins (19) Mark Ponfick, Last Season: 1945, HOF Standard: 55 334-252, 57.0%, 3.82 ERA, 5596 IP, 1184 BB, 2505 K, 463 CG, 41 SHO, 1.22 WHIP POY Award: 1944 ROY Award: NONE Pennants: 3 WS Victories: 2 No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: WHIP 2, Wins 1 Career Top 25: Wins (9), K's (5), CG (5), SHO (25) NEW Bob Guilderson, Last Season: 1949, HOF Standard: 55 239-217, 52.4%, 3.84 ERA, 4336.2 IP, 2298 BB, 2036 K, 304 CG, 31 SHO, 1.45 WHIP POY Award: 1940 ROY Award: 1935 Pennants: 1 WS Victories: NONE No-Hitters: NONE Led League in: ERA 1, Losses 1, IP 2, K's 1, BB 4, CG 1 Career Top 25: K's (22) __________________ List of Ancestors in Excel APLB Chicago Cubs: 1877, 1880, 1885, 1886 Champs Pro-Circuit Buffalo Merchants: 1895 Champs Set in Stone... 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04-19-2005, 12:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
ifspuds Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 2,092	Kinnear Misisca Greisbach McAuliffe Davie Lamberty Breckenridge Riley Ponfick Oops... just realized I'd only voted for 9. Please add Mickelsen to my ballot. __________________ Jeff Watson TWB (co-commissioner): Pittsburgh Pirates GM (team dynasty here, #5 Dynasty of 2005!) (TWB Champs 1966, 1967, 1973, NL Champs 1968, NL East Champs 1969, NL Champs 1970, 1971 NPBL: Illinois Jethawks GM Outpost League: A Fictional World Dynasty (#9 (tie) Dynasty of 2005!) Last edited by ifspuds : 04-19-2005 at 07:24 PM. Reason: Forgot one...

04-19-2005, 01:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,228	Arrrgh.... The Easy Ones: Riley Schukraft Ponfick Booth Not So Easy: Kinnear Finley Skjerly Misisca McAuliffe Ping Hung (only because Lamberty is getting in either way) __________________ None Blog it.

04-19-2005, 01:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
ifspuds Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 2,092	It's time to break out the Bud Breckenridge campaign, with a bio written by Jack McKinley, longtime Pirates beat writer from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Bud Breckenridge Center Field, Pittsburgh Pirates (1929-1949) Career Numbers: 2434 Hits 304 Doubles 164 Triples 180 Home Runs 1232 RBI 1580 R (21st All-Time) 792 K 1437 BB (14th All-Time) 759 SB (7th All-Time) .303 Average .408 On-base Percentage .449 Slugging Percentage 8-time All-Star 1942 Batter of the Year 5-time Batter of the Month Top 10s: AVG (5), OBP (11, 4 1sts), SLG (6), OPS (10, 1 1st), H (5), 2B (1), 3B (9, 2 1sts), HR (3), RBI (3), R (10, 4 1sts), BB (13, 2 1sts), SB (14) Coming into the league at a time when home runs were becoming more a part of the offensive game, Bud Breckenridge was a throw-back to an earlier time in Time Warp Baseball. His game was about speed. Stolen bases, triples, diving catches in the outfield, even the way he took first on a walk, it seemed like he was a coiled spring just waiting for a chance to zip from place to place. He stole 40 or more bases 12 straight seasons (50+ in 5 of those seasons, 60+ in 2) and hit double figures in triples 8 times in an era when triples all but disappeared from the offensive landscape. Every time he hit the ball, you wanted to cheer for him to stretch it. He never hit a lot of doubles, but he was such a smart and daring baserunner that he often stretched doubles into three-baggers, diving into third base in a cloud of dirt and legs and flying caps and popping to his feet grinning like a kid who'd just found the key to the candy store. But he could pop the ball over the fence too, going for double figures in home runs 11 times, hitting 19, 18 and 18 from 1938-1940. His 1942 Batter of the Year wasn't his best season, but when you were a contemporary of Oscar "The Kid" Vancini, Batter of the Year awards were a rarity. Consider some of these seasons that ranked among his best (and better than 1942), only to have Vancini steal the limelight with his prodigious power numbers: 1936: .321/.414/.512, 31 2B, 18 3B, 12 HR, 79 RBI, 101 runs, 55 SB 1938: .325/.444/.541, 33 2B, 10 3B, 19 HR, 89 RBI, 135 runs, 57 SB 1940: .321/.432/.507, 16 2B, 13 3B, 18 HR, 92 RBI, 101 runs, 47 SB 1945: .345/.457/.479, 18 2B, 15 3B, 7 HR, 101 RBI, 107 runs, 49 SB As I wrote of Breckenridge in 1936, "He never had the power that Sam (Kass, Pirates' Hall of Fame center fielder) did, but he was one of the most exciting players to watch that the Pirates had fielded in years. When he got on the basepaths, a buzz started rising in the stands. He would dance around first base, back and forth, doing everything he could to throw the pitcher off his game, and the whole while he’d be grinning like he knew something everyone else didn’t. And more times than not, he’d be off for second base like a shot from a gun. Could he hit? You bet he could. 31 doubles, 18 triples, 12 homers, a .321 average. He was a show waiting to happen all by himself." For a team that finished above 4th place just twice in his career and had a winning record only 6 of his 20 seasons, Bud Breckenridge often was the only attraction bringing fans to the ballpark. He was something like a god in Pittsburgh, with his trademark grin endorsing everything from car dealerships to breakfast cereal to grocery stores. He scored over 100 runs 8 times, a notable achievement for a player on such a bedraggled team. Consider also that his career didn't really begin until 1934, when Sam Kass was traded to the Washington Senators. The Pirates had an embarrassment of riches at center field, but couldn't find a way to get both Breckenridge and Kass in the lineup at the same time. Still, in part time duty from 1929 to 1933, Breckenridge shone. In 1932, in 153 at-bats, Breckenridge hit .373/.503/.582 with 14 steals. He followed that up in 1933 with a .353/.438/.424 line, stealing 22 bases and getting caught just a single time, an indication of the seasons that would await him when he was handed the full-time job at the age of 24. __________________ Jeff Watson TWB (co-commissioner): Pittsburgh Pirates GM (team dynasty here, #5 Dynasty of 2005!) (TWB Champs 1966, 1967, 1973, NL Champs 1968, NL East Champs 1969, NL Champs 1970, 1971 NPBL: Illinois Jethawks GM Outpost League: A Fictional World Dynasty (#9 (tie) Dynasty of 2005!)

04-19-2005, 02:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
metsgeek Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 5,411	Jeez, rough again this year. I don't see how anyone can vote for less than 10. And the people who just vote for 1 are either spiteful or deluded. High standards, my ass. Kinnear Minzey Greisbach Misisca Liao Mcauliffe Lamberty Hung Breckenridge Riley __________________ Commissioner - PBRL Time Warp Baseball - Boston Red Sox The Baseball Chronicle - Cleveland Spiders Last edited by metsgeek : 04-19-2005 at 02:10 PM.

04-19-2005, 02:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
ifspuds Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 2,092	Agreed, metsgeek. There's a huge backlog of batters that are HoF-worthy. __________________ Jeff Watson TWB (co-commissioner): Pittsburgh Pirates GM (team dynasty here, #5 Dynasty of 2005!) (TWB Champs 1966, 1967, 1973, NL Champs 1968, NL East Champs 1969, NL Champs 1970, 1971 NPBL: Illinois Jethawks GM Outpost League: A Fictional World Dynasty (#9 (tie) Dynasty of 2005!)

04-19-2005, 02:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dagrims Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,827	Sure are a ton of batters that I consider to be in the same tier. My ballot: Kinnear McAuliffe Misisca Schwarz Lamberty Breckenridge Hung Riley Schukraft Ponfick __________________ "Read books, get brain."

04-19-2005, 03:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,202	This gets tougher every year: Lamberty Hung Greisbach Breckenridge ( nice PR job, there ) Riley Ponfick Booth Arkless Liao Misisca

04-19-2005, 05:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ankhiel Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 466	Schwarz Minzey Greishbach Liao __________________ GM - TWB Expos

04-19-2005, 06:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
pat Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 2,635	Minzey Kinnear Bowden Greisbach Liao Martin Davie Lamberty Breckenridge Ponfick __________________ TWB -- (1950-) Baltimore Orioles 1960 Champs, 1970 Champs IFB -- (2001-) China Citizens 2001 Champs Pirates of Pennsylvania - My OOTP Dynasty My Blog

04-19-2005, 09:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,228	Well, maybe. I know there is a big following behind him on our boards. I think he'll make it. If we get around 18-22 voters, I can't see that many people leaving him off. __________________ None Blog it.

04-20-2005, 12:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
bigjas Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Olive Hill, KY Posts: 265	Where's the love for Sunny Davie? He was only the best catcher of his generation. Alan Liao Leonard Davie Bud Breckenridge Adolf Greisbach Bobby Martin Dale Lamberty Jon Minzey Troy Kinnear Ricardo Bowden Ervin Skjerly

04-20-2005, 02:01 AM	#18 (permalink)
BPS Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2004 Location: 1968 Cat Olympics Posts: 296	Stuart Hung Misisca Riley Kinnear Greisbach Lamberty Liao Mcauliffe Minzey

04-20-2005, 10:31 AM	#20 (permalink)
tward13 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 892	McAullife Misisca Liao Martin Riley Schukraft Booth Lamberty Greisbach Ponfick __________________ Time Warp - NY Giants (1946-57) NL Champs 1951, 1952; NY Mets (1962- ) Asahi2 - NY Mets 1977 Champs PBRL - Bkn Dodgers 1922 Champs NTBL - Clev. Indians - 1921, 1922 Champs (League closed) GDBA - Phil. Athletics - 1946 Champs (League closed) MLB Replay - Det. Tigers - 1914 Champs (League closed)

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