The XML File Suggestion Thread

battists · 05-30-2006, 10:27 AM

This thread is for suggestions, corrections, or constructive criticism related to in-game text in OOTPB. The XML file that contains play-by-play and in-game text for OOTPB is being updated and polished on an ongoing basis, based on feedback from the community.

A few rules for submitting feedback:

1. Be nice. If you can't post a suggestion without resorting to inflammatory phrasing like "This sucks" or "This sounds pathetic" then don't bother.

2. Please be as specific as possible about where you saw the text. For example, "This was in a player of the week news article for a starting pitcher" or "This was when my runner was advancing to third..." If possible, provide a screenshot. In the case of play-by-play, try to include the full play in question, not just the one erroneous line.

3. If possible, provide an alternative. Rephrase it, correct the spelling, etc.

4. Please try to stay away from feature suggestions in this thread. This thread is not intended to discuss ways that Markus could change how in-game text works. It's more to address incorrect or unnatural text items in the game.

5. Be nice.

We're very open to feedback, as long as it's constructive and polite.

Thanks very much!

battists · 05-30-2006, 10:29 AM

Sample Suggestion

What I saw: "Wilson hit 45 hmruns this year"
Where I saw it: This was in an MVP announcement
What I think was wrong with it: "hmruns" is misspelled
Suggestion: Correct the spelling!

RBLwebguy · 05-30-2006, 10:49 AM

Positive feedback also welcomed

, the text team worked a lot of man hours!

Eugene Church · 05-31-2006, 08:41 PM

I saw it while playing out a game.

"hit sharply to right"...

"texas leaguer"...

A "texas leaguer" is not a sharply hit ball...it a looping flyball...a flare...it has an arc...more of a soft popfly just over the infield...not a line drive.

Solution: don't let "texas leaguer" follow "hit sharply"...it should follow "popfly to right"..."soft fly to right"..."looper to right"..."soft flare to right"..."popped up to shallow right"..."popup to short right".

tysok · 06-01-2006, 12:25 AM

"Fans are lining up at the turnstyles and getting ready for another great year. Welcome to another exciting baseball season! Everyone is ready to get sit back, munch on a hot brotwurst and get this thing started."

"get sit back" isn't right, should just be "sit back".
Any other errors in that text is my fault.

It was in an Opening Day news announcement.

tysok · 06-01-2006, 12:32 AM

The big buzz in the baseball world is about Don Hoffman's performance last night against Kansas City. Hoffman has 4 en route to hitting for the cycle.

Has 4 what? Guess it's supposed to be 4 hits, but shouldn't it be past tense then... had 4 hits?

It's in a hit for the cycle announcement.

tysok · 06-01-2006, 12:50 AM

I have 2 announcements that the postseason is starting. Both on 10/3:

First: The Major League playoffs start today! Only a handful of teams remain to battle for the ultimate prize. Today is the start of the Division Series, and most of the teams will be trying to put their best foot forward in these matchups: (but nothing listed)

Second: The "second season" begins today in Major League as the playoffs get underway. The clubs vying for postseason supremacy in the Division Series are paired together in the following matchups: (this time it lists the matchups)

In the second one it should say "today in the Major League"

tysok · 06-01-2006, 01:02 AM

Last post for tonight at least...... not an error in a news article but the fact that there was no news article.....

No news article for the end of the World Series and who won?

tysok · 06-01-2006, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBLwebguy

Positive feedback also welcomed

, the text team worked a lot of man hours!

Very good job to the text team. I only got bored because I kept reading about shutouts and great hitting games, but the variation was very good. And not many mistakes it would appear, I went through 291 news reports for my inaugural season and those are the only things I found.

tysok · 06-01-2006, 01:29 AM

Oooooooh... I liked this one. On 11/25 I get a news report of rumors that the Swarm and Ramirez are talking about 37.8 million contract, both denying the rumors.... and on 11/27 I get a news report that he signed with the Hunchbacks for 37.6 million.

That's a beautiful thing.

pstrickert · 06-01-2006, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysok

"Fans are lining up at the turnstyles and getting ready for another great year. Welcome to another exciting baseball season! Everyone is ready to get sit back, munch on a hot brotwurst and get this thing started."

"get sit back" isn't right, should just be "sit back".
Any other errors in that text is my fault.

It was in an Opening Day news announcement.

correct spelling: bratwurst

RBLwebguy · 06-01-2006, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysok

Oooooooh... I liked this one. On 11/25 I get a news report of rumors that the Swarm and Ramirez are talking about 37.8 million contract, both denying the rumors.... and on 11/27 I get a news report that he signed with the Hunchbacks for 37.6 million.

That's a beautiful thing.

draven085 · 06-01-2006, 09:19 AM

What I saw: A 3-1 putout on a groundball to the firstbaseman was described as a "roller to the left side"
Where I saw it: In-game PbP
What I think was wrong with it: Firstbase is located on the right side of the infield.
Suggestion: Update the text to correctly describe the location of the ground ball.

punchdrunk · 06-01-2006, 04:23 PM

I had a game where the catcher threw the ball into centerfield on a steal attempt, but the announcer said that my firstbaseman was charged with an error. I checked the box score, and it showed that an error was charged correctly to my catcher, so it was just the PbP apparently grabbing the wrong player's name.

Sorry I can't be more specific about this, but I can't remember the exact wording of the commentary, but I know the firstbaseman was mentioned by name as the guy who made the error.

punchdrunk · 06-01-2006, 06:13 PM

What I saw: "Davis picks it with the backhand..."

Where I saw it: Pbp during a spring training game

What I think was wrong with it: Nobody on the field is named Davis... (first or last name)

Suggestion: Don't let ghosts play shortstop, cause they can't throw worth a crap...

Here's a screen shot:

battists · 06-01-2006, 09:57 PM

Now that's a helpful post.

Seriously, the full text, a screenshot. Nice work!

RBLwebguy · 06-02-2006, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysok

I have 2 announcements that the postseason is starting. Both on 10/3:

First: The Major League playoffs start today! Only a handful of teams remain to battle for the ultimate prize. Today is the start of the Division Series, and most of the teams will be trying to put their best foot forward in these matchups: (but nothing listed)

Second: The "second season" begins today in Major League as the playoffs get underway. The clubs vying for postseason supremacy in the Division Series are paired together in the following matchups: (this time it lists the matchups)

In the second one it should say "today in the Major League"

The second one was an easy fix, the first should be working. Let me know if you see anymore without the matchups.

markprior22 · 06-02-2006, 12:57 PM

I saw a PBP last night like this...Webber comes in for the ball...Webber also has a bead on it but Webber waves him off. There was only one Webber in the field.

AliG · 06-02-2006, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punchdrunk

What I saw: "Davis picks it with the backhand..."

Where I saw it: Pbp during a spring training game

What I think was wrong with it: Nobody on the field is named Davis... (first or last name)

Suggestion: Don't let ghosts play shortstop, cause they can't throw worth a crap...

Here's a screen shot:

Surely that should also say 'picks it up with the backhand...' ?

Raidergoo · 06-02-2006, 01:33 PM

It looks like catagory 241, objects 14685,14686, 14687 use Davis instead of a variable.

It looks like catagory 179, object 8026 also.

To the best of my knowledge, 179 is back handed catches, 241 is balls hit in air.

05-30-2006, 10:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
battists OOTP Developments Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 17,024 Blog Entries: 7 Thanks: 30 Thanked 703x in 194 posts	The XML File Suggestion Thread This thread is for suggestions, corrections, or constructive criticism related to in-game text in OOTPB. The XML file that contains play-by-play and in-game text for OOTPB is being updated and polished on an ongoing basis, based on feedback from the community. A few rules for submitting feedback: 1. Be nice. If you can't post a suggestion without resorting to inflammatory phrasing like "This sucks" or "This sounds pathetic" then don't bother. 2. Please be as specific as possible about where you saw the text. For example, "This was in a player of the week news article for a starting pitcher" or "This was when my runner was advancing to third..." If possible, provide a screenshot. In the case of play-by-play, try to include the full play in question, not just the one erroneous line. 3. If possible, provide an alternative. Rephrase it, correct the spelling, etc. 4. Please try to stay away from feature suggestions in this thread. This thread is not intended to discuss ways that Markus could change how in-game text works. It's more to address incorrect or unnatural text items in the game. 5. Be nice. We're very open to feedback, as long as it's constructive and polite. Thanks very much! Last edited by battists; 05-30-2006 at 10:30 AM.

05-30-2006, 10:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 4,240 Thanks: 28 Thanked 60x in 33 posts	Positive feedback also welcomed , the text team worked a lot of man hours! __________________ On Adrian Gonzalez playing RF and David Ortiz playing 1B against the Phillies --- "It'll be good offensively, but damn, I've gotta play second, first and right. That's a lot of ground to cover, man. I've got small legs." -- Dustin Pedroia

05-31-2006, 08:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,947 Thanks: 92 Thanked 96x in 50 posts	I saw it while playing out a game. "hit sharply to right"... "texas leaguer"... A "texas leaguer" is not a sharply hit ball...it a looping flyball...a flare...it has an arc...more of a soft popfly just over the infield...not a line drive. Solution: don't let "texas leaguer" follow "hit sharply"...it should follow "popfly to right"..."soft fly to right"..."looper to right"..."soft flare to right"..."popped up to shallow right"..."popup to short right". Last edited by Eugene Church; 05-31-2006 at 08:48 PM.

06-01-2006, 04:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
punchdrunk Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: A Van Down by the River Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Error on catcher blamed on firstbaseman I had a game where the catcher threw the ball into centerfield on a steal attempt, but the announcer said that my firstbaseman was charged with an error. I checked the box score, and it showed that an error was charged correctly to my catcher, so it was just the PbP apparently grabbing the wrong player's name. Sorry I can't be more specific about this, but I can't remember the exact wording of the commentary, but I know the firstbaseman was mentioned by name as the guy who made the error. Last edited by punchdrunk; 06-01-2006 at 04:39 PM.

06-01-2006, 06:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
punchdrunk Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: A Van Down by the River Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	The Ghost Player What I saw: "Davis picks it with the backhand..." Where I saw it: Pbp during a spring training game What I think was wrong with it: Nobody on the field is named Davis... (first or last name) Suggestion: Don't let ghosts play shortstop, cause they can't throw worth a crap... Here's a screen shot:

05-30-2006, 10:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
battists OOTP Developments Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 17,024 Blog Entries: 7 Thanks: 30 Thanked 703x in 194 posts	Sample Suggestion What I saw: "Wilson hit 45 hmruns this year" Where I saw it: This was in an MVP announcement What I think was wrong with it: "hmruns" is misspelled Suggestion: Correct the spelling!

06-01-2006, 12:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,923 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6x in 4 posts	"Fans are lining up at the turnstyles and getting ready for another great year. Welcome to another exciting baseball season! Everyone is ready to get sit back, munch on a hot brotwurst and get this thing started." "get sit back" isn't right, should just be "sit back". Any other errors in that text is my fault. It was in an Opening Day news announcement.

06-01-2006, 12:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,923 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6x in 4 posts	The big buzz in the baseball world is about Don Hoffman's performance last night against Kansas City. Hoffman has 4 en route to hitting for the cycle. Has 4 what? Guess it's supposed to be 4 hits, but shouldn't it be past tense then... had 4 hits? It's in a hit for the cycle announcement.

06-01-2006, 12:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,923 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6x in 4 posts	I have 2 announcements that the postseason is starting. Both on 10/3: First: The Major League playoffs start today! Only a handful of teams remain to battle for the ultimate prize. Today is the start of the Division Series, and most of the teams will be trying to put their best foot forward in these matchups: (but nothing listed) Second: The "second season" begins today in Major League as the playoffs get underway. The clubs vying for postseason supremacy in the Division Series are paired together in the following matchups: (this time it lists the matchups) In the second one it should say "today in the Major League"

06-01-2006, 01:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,923 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6x in 4 posts	Last post for tonight at least...... not an error in a news article but the fact that there was no news article..... No news article for the end of the World Series and who won?

06-01-2006, 01:29 AM	#10 (permalink)
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,923 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6x in 4 posts	Oooooooh... I liked this one. On 11/25 I get a news report of rumors that the Swarm and Ramirez are talking about 37.8 million contract, both denying the rumors.... and on 11/27 I get a news report that he signed with the Hunchbacks for 37.6 million. That's a beautiful thing.

06-01-2006, 09:19 AM	#13 (permalink)
draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,057 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	What I saw: A 3-1 putout on a groundball to the firstbaseman was described as a "roller to the left side" Where I saw it: In-game PbP What I think was wrong with it: Firstbase is located on the right side of the infield. Suggestion: Update the text to correctly describe the location of the ground ball.

06-01-2006, 09:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
battists OOTP Developments Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 17,024 Blog Entries: 7 Thanks: 30 Thanked 703x in 194 posts	Now that's a helpful post. Seriously, the full text, a screenshot. Nice work!

06-02-2006, 12:57 PM	#18 (permalink)
markprior22 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: springfield, illinois Posts: 922 Thanks: 53 Thanked 98x in 19 posts	I saw a PBP last night like this...Webber comes in for the ball...Webber also has a bead on it but Webber waves him off. There was only one Webber in the field.

06-02-2006, 01:33 PM	#20 (permalink)
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 39.84 N -84.12 W Posts: 8,327 Thanks: 76 Thanked 53x in 36 posts	It looks like catagory 241, objects 14685,14686, 14687 use Davis instead of a variable. It looks like catagory 179, object 8026 also. To the best of my knowledge, 179 is back handed catches, 241 is balls hit in air.

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