New Logo Design - Opinions Wanted

Gern44 · 10-30-2009, 11:23 AM

Hey guys, this is a new logo style I'm working on for MLB Logos. I'm not 100% sold on it.

I think they may be too 'busy'. I like the 'plastic effect' on the text. But I'm afraid that's what makes them look too busy to me. The translucent Home Plate came to me by way of an error in the design and I really liked it.

What do you guys think?

spleen1015 · 10-30-2009, 11:46 AM

I think they are great.

Gern44 · 10-30-2009, 11:56 AM

Thanks... but are they something you'd use, or you think would work well, as OOTP Team Logos?

spleen1015 · 10-30-2009, 01:00 PM

If I played with real teams, I would use them for sure.

I'm interested in learning how you did some of that stuff so that I could use the techniques creating fictional logos.

micropterus58 · 10-30-2009, 02:45 PM

I like them and I'd use them if a set were available. I like the wide variety of logo styles that people have posted. Some people don't like glossy logos and some don't like round logos. We get to choose what we like. Since OOTP 10 uses different sized logos througout the game, these logos should look good at the larger sizes but may be too "busy" in smaller sizes. It really depends on your screen resolution.

I normally make my own logos using Paint Shop Pro. I often download templates made by others but unfortunately not all Photoshop files can be opened by PSP. In that case I try to make my own. This helps me learn new graphic techniques. I'm good at copying a style but I don't have the creativity to make unique new styles. Now I have to open PSP and figure out how to make inner beveled edges (as you've done on the home plate).

TribeFanInNC · 10-30-2009, 03:10 PM

I like them as well, though I would have to see how they look in-game.

Gern44 · 10-30-2009, 04:39 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys. Im going to test out 6 of the logos in OOTPX right now. If I like them, I'll work on the rest of the teams. If I don't.... well, i'll most likely tweak the style.

Update: I tried them in OOTP. They are nice looking, but the City Names are just too small and the Team Logos dont dominate well enough to carry the Logo. Especially on the pages that display the teams before the Rookie Draft. I think I have to pick either the Team Logos or the City names and make one dominate. Splitting it 50/50 or so doesnt work well enough imho.

I think Micro has it right... everyone likes something different. I still havent come up with a style that I like well enough to use.

rocknfire7 · 10-30-2009, 06:57 PM

They look great!

t_wil1 · 10-30-2009, 11:50 PM

i really like these logos..... I still would use the transparent background ones I use... but If i didn't I would use these... I wondered if you could make the new york mets with black instead of orange.... just curious how it would look

Gern44 · 10-31-2009, 10:15 AM

t_wil, i'll post one on Monday.

I'm going to play around with the style and see what I can come up with. I'm leaning toward centering the Homeplate and Team Logo and making them bigger, then making the city name smaller. I think they would work better with the Logo dominant.

Gern44 · 11-02-2009, 12:56 PM

After some tweaking, I'm leaning towards changing from the first logo to the second:

I'll have to test them out ingame to see how they scale.

spleen1015 · 11-02-2009, 01:16 PM

I like them both, but the 1st one more.

Gern44 · 11-02-2009, 01:22 PM

I like the first ones better as well, but they don't look good ingame. The smaller versions are just too busy and neither the Logo or the City stands out, imho.

tombair · 11-03-2009, 11:28 AM

The first version is very nice looking. Great "3D" look. But, as you found, at 150x150 you can't seen much in game (I mean this in general, not just for that logo style).

For the new version, you might want to remove the baseball from the background. At a larger size, that looks cool, but at smaller sizes, it's hard to tell what it is.

Overall, nice work! It's always good to see new designs.

Gern44 · 11-03-2009, 11:44 AM

I havent had a chance to check out the new ones yet, but I'll keep an eye on how the baseball background looks, thanks much for the heads up.

Thats always one of the things I flip flop on... using it or not in any logos. For some of the logo colors it doesnt show at all, others its too strong.

I'm going to test one with a subtle texture instead to see how it looks.

EDIT:
I removed the Baseball picture and added an 'old paper' texture that I doctored up a bit.

silvam14 · 11-03-2009, 11:54 AM

Hell yeah! These are great. I'm with spleen where if I played with real teams, I would use them.

10-30-2009, 11:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
Gern44 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Plymouth, Ma. Posts: 1,072 Blog Entries: 23 Thanks: 62 Thanked 413x in 322 posts	New Logo Design - Opinions Wanted Hey guys, this is a new logo style I'm working on for MLB Logos. I'm not 100% sold on it. I think they may be too 'busy'. I like the 'plastic effect' on the text. But I'm afraid that's what makes them look too busy to me. The translucent Home Plate came to me by way of an error in the design and I really liked it. What do you guys think? Last edited by Gern44; 10-30-2009 at 01:59 PM. Reason: Chaged the size of the Text Logo and reposted the Pictures

10-30-2009, 11:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 5,020 Thanks: 28 Thanked 85x in 50 posts	I think they are great. __________________ GM Indianapolis 500s- Classic Baseball Union

10-30-2009, 01:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 5,020 Thanks: 28 Thanked 85x in 50 posts	If I played with real teams, I would use them for sure. I'm interested in learning how you did some of that stuff so that I could use the techniques creating fictional logos. __________________ GM Indianapolis 500s- Classic Baseball Union

10-30-2009, 03:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
TribeFanInNC Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,498 Thanks: 86 Thanked 253x in 204 posts	I like them as well, though I would have to see how they look in-game. __________________ PEBA - Duluth Warriors

10-30-2009, 04:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gern44 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Plymouth, Ma. Posts: 1,072 Blog Entries: 23 Thanks: 62 Thanked 413x in 322 posts	Thanks for the feedback guys. Im going to test out 6 of the logos in OOTPX right now. If I like them, I'll work on the rest of the teams. If I don't.... well, i'll most likely tweak the style. Update: I tried them in OOTP. They are nice looking, but the City Names are just too small and the Team Logos dont dominate well enough to carry the Logo. Especially on the pages that display the teams before the Rookie Draft. I think I have to pick either the Team Logos or the City names and make one dominate. Splitting it 50/50 or so doesnt work well enough imho. I think Micro has it right... everyone likes something different. I still havent come up with a style that I like well enough to use. Last edited by Gern44; 10-30-2009 at 05:32 PM.

10-30-2009, 11:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
Gern44 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Plymouth, Ma. Posts: 1,072 Blog Entries: 23 Thanks: 62 Thanked 413x in 322 posts	Thanks... but are they something you'd use, or you think would work well, as OOTP Team Logos?

10-30-2009, 02:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
micropterus58 Major Leagues Join Date: May 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 328 Thanks: 34 Thanked 37x in 35 posts	I like them and I'd use them if a set were available. I like the wide variety of logo styles that people have posted. Some people don't like glossy logos and some don't like round logos. We get to choose what we like. Since OOTP 10 uses different sized logos througout the game, these logos should look good at the larger sizes but may be too "busy" in smaller sizes. It really depends on your screen resolution. I normally make my own logos using Paint Shop Pro. I often download templates made by others but unfortunately not all Photoshop files can be opened by PSP. In that case I try to make my own. This helps me learn new graphic techniques. I'm good at copying a style but I don't have the creativity to make unique new styles. Now I have to open PSP and figure out how to make inner beveled edges (as you've done on the home plate).

10-30-2009, 06:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
rocknfire7 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Great Plains Posts: 1,452 Thanks: 68 Thanked 29x in 24 posts	They look great! __________________ the probable relief pitcher The Baseball Chronicle: http://tbc.legendsport.com/ Cleveland Indians 1921+ 1923 World Champions *Behold the following absurdity:* "It is four years down the road, but I doubt a far-winger from either side could actually secure the WH. Moderates generally win. Obama is definitely a moderate . He had wide appeal, and still does." P

10-30-2009, 11:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
t_wil1 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 2,382 Thanks: 6 Thanked 22x in 20 posts	i really like these logos..... I still would use the transparent background ones I use... but If i didn't I would use these... I wondered if you could make the new york mets with black instead of orange.... just curious how it would look

10-31-2009, 10:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
Gern44 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Plymouth, Ma. Posts: 1,072 Blog Entries: 23 Thanks: 62 Thanked 413x in 322 posts	t_wil, i'll post one on Monday. I'm going to play around with the style and see what I can come up with. I'm leaning toward centering the Homeplate and Team Logo and making them bigger, then making the city name smaller. I think they would work better with the Logo dominant.

11-02-2009, 12:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
Gern44 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Plymouth, Ma. Posts: 1,072 Blog Entries: 23 Thanks: 62 Thanked 413x in 322 posts	After some tweaking, I'm leaning towards changing from the first logo to the second: I'll have to test them out ingame to see how they scale. Last edited by Gern44; 11-02-2009 at 12:57 PM. Reason: formatting

11-02-2009, 01:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 5,020 Thanks: 28 Thanked 85x in 50 posts	I like them both, but the 1st one more. __________________ GM Indianapolis 500s- Classic Baseball Union

11-02-2009, 01:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
Gern44 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Plymouth, Ma. Posts: 1,072 Blog Entries: 23 Thanks: 62 Thanked 413x in 322 posts	I like the first ones better as well, but they don't look good ingame. The smaller versions are just too busy and neither the Logo or the City stands out, imho.

11-03-2009, 11:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
tombair Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: La Plata, MD Posts: 492 Thanks: 27 Thanked 30x in 27 posts	The first version is very nice looking. Great "3D" look. But, as you found, at 150x150 you can't seen much in game (I mean this in general, not just for that logo style). For the new version, you might want to remove the baseball from the background. At a larger size, that looks cool, but at smaller sizes, it's hard to tell what it is. Overall, nice work! It's always good to see new designs. __________________ I don't care how long you've been around, you'll never see it all. Bob Lemon

11-03-2009, 11:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
Gern44 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Plymouth, Ma. Posts: 1,072 Blog Entries: 23 Thanks: 62 Thanked 413x in 322 posts	I havent had a chance to check out the new ones yet, but I'll keep an eye on how the baseball background looks, thanks much for the heads up. Thats always one of the things I flip flop on... using it or not in any logos. For some of the logo colors it doesnt show at all, others its too strong. I'm going to test one with a subtle texture instead to see how it looks. EDIT: I removed the Baseball picture and added an 'old paper' texture that I doctored up a bit. Last edited by Gern44; 11-03-2009 at 12:02 PM.

11-03-2009, 11:54 AM	#16 (permalink)
silvam14 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Medford, MA Posts: 3,678 Thanks: 67 Thanked 353x in 163 posts	Hell yeah! These are great. I'm with spleen where if I played with real teams, I would use them. __________________ Senior "Nancy Boy" of the OOTP Boards _______________________________________________ Check out my Fictional Uniform Project! http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...007%20Jerseys/

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