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Old 06-08-2006, 10:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Missing Ontario cities

I'm making an Ontario league and noticed that some pretty sizeable cities were not in there. I went and put them in, and I thought I'd share them in case anyone else wants them:

Ajax,90000,36,Ontario,43.51,-79.01
Ancaster,28000,36,Ontario,43.12,-79.59
Brampton,425000,36,Ontario,43.41,-79.46
Burlington,150836,36,Ontario,43.19,-79.47
Cambridge,120000,36,Ontario,43.23,-80.19
Clarington,69834,36,Ontario,44.04,-78.38
Kawartha Lakes,69179,36,Ontario,44.74,-78.40
Markham,267400,36,Ontario,43.53,-79.15
Mississauga,612925,36,Ontario,43.36,-79.39
Newmarket,65788,36,Ontario,44.05,-79.46
Niagara Falls,78815,36,Ontario,43.05,-79.05
Norfolk,60847,36,Ontario,42.51,-80.16
Oakville,155700,36,Ontario,43.27,-79.41
Pickering,87139,36,Ontario,43.50,-79.09
Richmond Hill,163000,36,Ontario,43.53,-79.25
Sault Ste. Marie,74566,36,Ontario,46.50,-84.50
St. Catharines,129170,36,Ontario,43.11,-79.14
Scarborough,593297,36,Ontario,43.47,-79.15
Vaughan,235000,36,Ontario,43.50,-79.30
Waterloo,113100,36,Ontario,43.28,-80.31
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Nice. I think the Canadian cities in the original file are actually the metropolitan areas. Toronto's pop is actually about 2.5 million, I think, and not 4.7 million.

Scarborough isn't a city anymore!!! Since the amalgamation of the old city of Toronto, Etobicoke, North York, East York, York, and Scarborough into one big city of Toronto in 1998!!!!!!!

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I'm making an Ontario league and noticed that some pretty sizeable cities were not in there. I went and put them in, and I thought I'd share them in case anyone else wants them:

Ajax,90000,36,Ontario,43.51,-79.01
Ancaster,28000,36,Ontario,43.12,-79.59
Brampton,425000,36,Ontario,43.41,-79.46
Burlington,150836,36,Ontario,43.19,-79.47
Cambridge,120000,36,Ontario,43.23,-80.19
Clarington,69834,36,Ontario,44.04,-78.38
Kawartha Lakes,69179,36,Ontario,44.74,-78.40
Markham,267400,36,Ontario,43.53,-79.15
Mississauga,612925,36,Ontario,43.36,-79.39
Newmarket,65788,36,Ontario,44.05,-79.46
Niagara Falls,78815,36,Ontario,43.05,-79.05
Norfolk,60847,36,Ontario,42.51,-80.16
Oakville,155700,36,Ontario,43.27,-79.41
Pickering,87139,36,Ontario,43.50,-79.09
Richmond Hill,163000,36,Ontario,43.53,-79.25
Sault Ste. Marie,74566,36,Ontario,46.50,-84.50
St. Catharines,129170,36,Ontario,43.11,-79.14
Scarborough,593297,36,Ontario,43.47,-79.15
Vaughan,235000,36,Ontario,43.50,-79.30
Waterloo,113100,36,Ontario,43.28,-80.31

Heh. I am working on a Cold War mod and found that two entire ex-Soviet republics ( Georgia + Moldova ) are missing.
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Old 06-08-2006, 01:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by treedom
I'm making an Ontario league and noticed that some pretty sizeable cities were not in there. I went and put them in, and I thought I'd share them in case anyone else wants them:

Ajax,90000,36,Ontario,43.51,-79.01
Ancaster,28000,36,Ontario,43.12,-79.59
Brampton,425000,36,Ontario,43.41,-79.46
Burlington,150836,36,Ontario,43.19,-79.47
Cambridge,120000,36,Ontario,43.23,-80.19
Clarington,69834,36,Ontario,44.04,-78.38
Kawartha Lakes,69179,36,Ontario,44.74,-78.40
Markham,267400,36,Ontario,43.53,-79.15
Mississauga,612925,36,Ontario,43.36,-79.39
Newmarket,65788,36,Ontario,44.05,-79.46
Niagara Falls,78815,36,Ontario,43.05,-79.05
Norfolk,60847,36,Ontario,42.51,-80.16
Oakville,155700,36,Ontario,43.27,-79.41
Pickering,87139,36,Ontario,43.50,-79.09
Richmond Hill,163000,36,Ontario,43.53,-79.25
Sault Ste. Marie,74566,36,Ontario,46.50,-84.50
St. Catharines,129170,36,Ontario,43.11,-79.14
Scarborough,593297,36,Ontario,43.47,-79.15
Vaughan,235000,36,Ontario,43.50,-79.30
Waterloo,113100,36,Ontario,43.28,-80.31
A lot of these probably fall under suburbs of TO now.

Waterloo I think is part of Kitchener?

Kawartha Lakes I think is just a district that applied for city status to amalgamate services so that could be a bit iffy. But the rest are valid points.
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Technically, Scarborough actually isn't a city anymore, since the amalgamation of the old city of Toronto, Etobicoke, North York, East York, York, and Scarborough into one big city of Toronto in 1998.
Heh, I knew somebody was gonna bring this up. I even knew that it would start with "Technically, ..."

I know that's true, of course; I live in the area. But I wanted more than one team in the GTA because its population so dwarfs every other city in Ontario. It's less boring to not call them all Toronto though.
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Heh. I am working on a Cold War mod and found that two entire ex-Soviet republics ( Georgia + Moldova ) are missing.
Yeah, that Moldova one really chaps my hide too, as it would've been a good place for a secondary league in my Romania universe. It wouldn't be hard to add it in, because they speak Romanian over there, so you already have a good nameset for them. Oh and, what's the deal with Hungary sharing the Romanian nameset? You're lucky there's no Hungarians over here, or they'd be yelling bloody murder.
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Yeah, that Moldova one really chaps my hide too, as it would've been a good place for a secondary league in my Romania universe. It wouldn't be hard to add it in, because they speak Romanian over there, so you already have a good nameset for them. Oh and, what's the deal with Hungary sharing the Romanian nameset? You're lucky there's no Hungarians over here, or they'd be yelling bloody murder.
Ssh. My mother in law is Hungarian by blood, Canadian by birth, and American by choice. She's helped me on one file already. If she finds out, there may be consequences.
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A lot of these probably fall under suburbs of TO now.

Waterloo I think is part of Kitchener?

Kawartha Lakes I think is just a district that applied for city status to amalgamate services so that could be a bit iffy. But the rest are valid points.
Good thing it's easy to take out the ones you don't like.

It's in your hands, cc!!
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Good thing it's easy to take out the ones you don't like.

It's in your hands, cc!!
oh i'm already debating it. Once I figure out how the hell I can do leagues that span more than one country and have SI have it so I can adtivate and deactive leagues on the fly.
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Btw, Raidergoo, you're missing the country index in your "Location".
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Yeah, that Moldova one really chaps my hide too, as it would've been a good place for a secondary league in my Romania universe.

228,Moldova,Moldova,MDL,Moldovan,3,1,35,87,13,13

Chişinău,716700,228,Chişinău,47.00,28.55
Tiraspol,164900,228,Transnistria,46.51,29.38
Tighina,144400,228,Transnistria,46.83,29.47
Bălţi,127600,228,Bălţi,47.46,27.55
Ungheni,32700,228,Ungheni,47.13,27.49
Soroca,28400,228,Soroca,48.10,28.18
Orhei,25700,228,Orhei,47.23,28.49

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Btw, Raidergoo, you're missing the country index in your "Location".
I put it in, and it makes the box far too big, so I edited it down.
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228,Moldova,Moldova,MDL,Moldovan,3,1,35,87,13,6

Chişinău,716700,228,Chişinău,47.00,28.55
Tiraspol,164900,228,Transnistria,46.51,29.38
Tighina,144400,228,Transnistria,46.83,29.47
Bălţi,127600,228,Bălţi,47.46,27.55
Ungheni,32700,228,Ungheni,47.13,27.49
Soroca,28400,228,Soroca,48.10,28.18
Orhei,25700,228,Orhei,47.23,28.49
Sweet!

And while we're on the subject, a lot of the Romanian cities are misspelled. They either have an 's' instead of 'ş' (ie. Timisoara should be Timişoara), or a 't' instead of a 'ţ' (ie. Galaţi), or an 'â' instead of 'î' (ie. Tîrgu Jiu). I may try to go in and fix them one of these days. Yours look right though, so good on ya.
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Sweet!

And while we're on the subject, a lot of the Romanian cities are misspelled. They either have an 's' instead of 'ş' (ie. Timisoara should be Timişoara), or a 't' instead of a 'ţ' (ie. Galaţi), or an 'â' instead of 'î' (ie. Tîrgu Jiu). I may try to go in and fix them one of these days. Yours look right though, so good on ya.
You edit them and I will submit the change via a TT.
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Heh, I knew somebody was gonna bring this up. I even knew that it would start with "Technically, ..."

I know that's true, of course; I live in the area. But I wanted more than one team in the GTA because its population so dwarfs every other city in Ontario. It's less boring to not call them all Toronto though.
I edited my post to remove "technically".
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228,Moldova,Moldova,MDL,Moldovan,3,1,35,87,13,6

Bălţi,127600,228,Bălţi,47.46,27.55
How on earth do you pronounce the t with the mark underneath it?
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How on earth do you pronounce the t with the mark underneath it?
Like the double-z in pizza.
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Ah ok. Interesţing .....
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228,Moldova,Moldova,MDL,Moldovan,3,1,35,87,13,6
Btw, your ethnicity percentages don't add up to 100.
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Btw, your ethnicity percentages don't add up to 100.
Looks like I quit the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
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