Mc's and Mac's

treedom · 06-09-2006, 01:07 AM

I wasn't sure wether to put this here or in the bug forum, but some (most?) of the Mc's and Mac's in the Scottish, Australian, Canadian and French-Canadian namesets are not capitalized correctly.

Raidergoo · 06-09-2006, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by treedom

I wasn't sure wether to put this here or in the bug forum, but some (most?) of the Mc's and Mac's in the Scottish, Australian, Canadian and French-Canadian namesets are not capitalized correctly.

Best to do it here.

Submit a change list and a sound argument and maybe this can be looked at.

Jamey · 06-13-2006, 06:08 PM

EDIT: LINK REMOVED SINCE THE MY NAME FILES WERE INCLUDED IN THE 1.0.2 PATCH.

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Originally Posted by treedom

I wasn't sure wether to put this here or in the bug forum, but some (most?) of the Mc's and Mac's in the Scottish, Australian, Canadian and French-Canadian namesets are not capitalized correctly.

Fixed.

I changed all of them in my name files set, available here:

if you find any more errors, please let me know.
thanks!

battists · 06-13-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamey

any other errors found in the poorly made original ootp files please let me know.
thanks!

Jamey,

I appreciate your help, but would equally appreciate it if you stopped posting "poorly made OOTP files" every time you post. The names files were created by volunteers, who spent months trying to find forty sets worth of name data. Frankly, even with the mistakes you've found, it's far more complete and accurate than previous versions of OOTP.

Different name sets were compiled by different people, so what you might think was "done poorly" might only have been touched by one person, while your comments reflect on everyone who helped out.

It's great that you're correcting them, mind you. It's just that all you're doing is hurting feelings when you keep posting that.

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Jamey · 06-13-2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Jamey,

I appreciate your help, but would equally appreciate it if you stopped posting "poorly made OOTP files" every time you post. The names files were created by volunteers, who spent months trying to find forty sets worth of name data. Frankly, even with the mistakes you've found, it's far more complete and accurate than previous versions of OOTP.

Different name sets were compiled by different people, so what you might think was "done poorly" might only have been touched by one person, while your comments reflect on everyone who helped out.

It's great that you're correcting them, mind you. It's just that all you're doing is hurting feelings when you keep posting that.

[/soapbox]

ya ur right...i just get frusturated after days and days of fixing errors.

i'm sorry but the i am very picky when it comes to names and that hispanic last name section was horrendous...... whoever made it obviously threw in names that 'sounded' hispanic, had tons of spelling errors and typos that needed to be deleted, and also had more common last names that were left out, like Palmeiro and Guillen.

but some of the nationalities were very good like the Azerbaijani nationality ( WOW! ) i really didn't expect Azerbaijani to be a priority but someone took the time to do it. Well basically all the Slavic ones were very impressive. The European ones are well done as well. Great job on those!

so yeah you're right.... i assumed Malleus Dei was the only one who made the name files because he is the only one given credit for it in the game credits.

Jamey · 06-14-2006, 12:19 AM

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battists · 06-14-2006, 08:46 AM

PM sent.

Jamey · 06-14-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

PM sent.

thank you for the response steve! i appreciate it!

steve = great guy

battists · 06-14-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamey

thank you for the response steve! i appreciate it!

steve = great guy

Well, I don't know if I'd go that far, but I appreciate it.

'sall in the name of better name files.

Chappy · 06-14-2006, 04:59 PM

how do I download this?

"You Do Not Have Permission To Download Files In This Category."

albatross11 · 06-14-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chappy

how do I download this?

"You Do Not Have Permission To Download Files In This Category."

I think you have to register first.

battists · 06-14-2006, 10:20 PM

You can grab it here too:

http://www.ootpmodsquad.com/

jbsnadb · 06-19-2006, 09:04 PM

I've had the same problem of say McQueen showing up as Mcqueen, or O'Connel as O'connel.

I've gone over the name file, and they all seem to be correct there, just not translating properly in-game.

treedom · 06-19-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jbsnadb

I've had the same problem of say McQueen showing up as Mcqueen, or O'Connel as O'connel.

I've gone over the name file, and they all seem to be correct there, just not translating properly in-game.

They seem to be correct in some of the namesets but not all. Maybe you were checking the one(s) in which they are correct?

jbsnadb · 06-20-2006, 03:09 AM

All I know is that, when I used the MAL quickstart supplied by the game, there were no problems, but I seem to have to change them all in the Canadian League I started. And, I'm pretty sure I checked them ALL in my names file. It wouldn't be that big of a deal if everyone who MADE the names files didn't swear up and down pre-release that this problem had been fixed!

treedom · 06-20-2006, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jbsnadb

All I know is that, when I used the MAL quickstart supplied by the game, there were no problems, but I seem to have to change them all in the Canadian League I started. And, I'm pretty sure I checked them ALL in my names file. It wouldn't be that big of a deal if everyone who MADE the names files didn't swear up and down pre-release that this problem had been fixed!

Yep, as noted in the opening post, the Canadian ones are where they're wrong. The American ones seem to be okay. You were probably looking at the American ones in the name file.

jbsnadb · 06-20-2006, 08:38 PM

Any chance of getting ALL names files correct for release with the second patch? There is NO reason why these files should be wrong or incomplete in any way.

battists · 06-20-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jbsnadb

Any chance of getting ALL names files correct for release with the second patch? There is NO reason why these files should be wrong or incomplete in any way.

The problem is that the quickstart that was already created used the original nameset, which has the mistakes. Correcting the name file at this date will not correct the names in the Quick-start game.

I'll pass along a note to see if the quick-start can be recreated.

jbsnadb · 06-20-2006, 09:51 PM

I don't think I'm being clear.

I completely re-did the quickstart (based on the same principles as the original I made) from scratch after I installed the patch, and I am having the same problems with the names.

battists · 06-20-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jbsnadb

I don't think I'm being clear.

I completely re-did the quickstart (based on the same principles as the original I made) from scratch after I installed the patch, and I am having the same problems with the names.

No, you're being perfectly clear. It's me that isn't.

The point is, if you're basing a game on a quick-start, the players inside the quick-start were already created before you even started. It doesn't matter whether you have patched or not. The players were created whenever the quick-start itself was created.

Quick-starts already have the players in place. In this case, the quick-start you are using already has name data stored inside that has the bad Mcs and Macs.

For example, OOTPB comes with a few quick-starts. I don't believe those were recreated or updated when the patch came out. Therefore, the players inside those quick-starts were created with the ORIGINAL name set, and not with the name set from patch 1.

Not sure if that makes any more sense...

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jbsnadb All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,005 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1x in 1 post	I've had the same problem of say McQueen showing up as Mcqueen, or O'Connel as O'connel. I've gone over the name file, and they all seem to be correct there, just not translating properly in-game.

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jbsnadb All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,005 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1x in 1 post	All I know is that, when I used the MAL quickstart supplied by the game, there were no problems, but I seem to have to change them all in the Canadian League I started. And, I'm pretty sure I checked them ALL in my names file. It wouldn't be that big of a deal if everyone who MADE the names files didn't swear up and down pre-release that this problem had been fixed!

06-20-2006, 08:38 PM	#17 (permalink)
jbsnadb All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,005 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1x in 1 post	Any chance of getting ALL names files correct for release with the second patch? There is NO reason why these files should be wrong or incomplete in any way.

06-20-2006, 09:51 PM	#19 (permalink)
jbsnadb All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,005 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1x in 1 post	I don't think I'm being clear. I completely re-did the quickstart (based on the same principles as the original I made) from scratch after I installed the patch, and I am having the same problems with the names.