Community Roster Release Thread (Links Updated Inside)

[CubbyFan23]

Working on getting someone to roll the date back so we can keep the pool, but until then, if you want to make changes like for the Rule 5, you can make them after the current season is completed (the Rule 5 wouldn't be until Dec. 2008 anyway)

[gollum65]

Ok, I'm using version 2.1 and I'm seeing a disturbing trend. Some big name players seem to go unsigned during free agency. Others end up having strange things happen to them.

In my current franchise, I'm running the Yanks. It's almost the trade deadline in 2010 and I'm looking to see who's available. Alfonso Soriano has been on the block for 2 seasons, but nobody has traded for him, and it made me curious. Was I shocked to find that he spent last year in AAA and is currently in rookie ball! Alfonso Soriano in rookie ball, at age 34? Is this a case of the Cubbies mis-managing him, or could there be rating problem?

Here's a pic:

ImageShack - Hosting :: sorianonz9.jpg

[clamel]

Originally Posted by Bears5122

Hey, sorry to bug you on this but had a question about 2.2. How complete would you say it is? To be honest, I don't care that much about every AA or A player. I could probably only name a handful for my Cubbies.

But what is kind of important to me is whether the top prospects for each organization is accurately portrayed. For instance Vitters for the Cubs. I'd like to see him develop into a major leaguer in a few years. Are those low ball, highly talented prospects represented in the set or do they still have to be edited? The guys in the minors with little to no shot at the bigs I could care less about.

Thanks.

I say as long as players that played in the XM Future All-Star is in the game and looking good, that´s fine IMHO

[CubbyFan23]

Originally Posted by gollum65

Ok, I'm using version 2.1 and I'm seeing a disturbing trend. Some big name players seem to go unsigned during free agency. Others end up having strange things happen to them.

In my current franchise, I'm running the Yanks. It's almost the trade deadline in 2010 and I'm looking to see who's available. Alfonso Soriano has been on the block for 2 seasons, but nobody has traded for him, and it made me curious. Was I shocked to find that he spent last year in AAA and is currently in rookie ball! Alfonso Soriano in rookie ball, at age 34? Is this a case of the Cubbies mis-managing him, or could there be rating problem?

Here's a pic:

ImageShack - Hosting :: sorianonz9.jpg

I'm stumped. He doesn't have a OF rating at all and has 1B/SS ratings which he doesn't have in this set. Not sure how that could happen.

Let me try some tests tonight to see if anything like that happens to me, could just be a freak thing.

EDIT: Are you sure you're using my set? I'm looking at Soriano weighing 180 pounds in mine, not 188 like on that roster screen (unless players can gain weight?)

[Bears5122]

It could also just be a game issue. The game has a lot of players at that age drop off the face of the earth ratings wise. I had Jay Bruce win 3 strainght MVPs and then was down in AA the following season as his ratings tumbled to crap.

[gollum65]

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

I'm stumped. He doesn't have a OF rating at all and has 1B/SS ratings which he doesn't have in this set. Not sure how that could happen.

Let me try some tests tonight to see if anything like that happens to me, could just be a freak thing.

EDIT: Are you sure you're using my set? I'm looking at Soriano weighing 180 pounds in mine, not 188 like on that roster screen (unless players can gain weight?)

First off, yes, I'm 99% certain I used your roster. I specifically waited for it because I wasn't fond of the default rosters that came with the game. And it was version 2.1, not the latest version you released.

Secondly, regarding Soriano not having an OF rating, I've actually seen this on a number of players, both in your roster and in the default rosters that came with the game. I had a draft choice in my very first game with OOTP9 with the default rosters whose position was "1B", but he had no infield ratings at all. And even if I edited him to add them, they still didn't show up.

[AirmenSmith]

I have seen player fielding ratings not showing up before to. In the last league I was playing I had an outfielder that was winning gold gloves and mvp's and then one year he had no fielding ratings. This was not in a roster set but a fictional league. The weird thing is that my manager would put him in the outfield even with out any ratings, almost like they are invisible to us.

On a side note, cubby do you know if you have any problems in your set with relievers become put in the starting rotation? This problem is really bugging me in fictional leagues and might make me abandon fictional leagues for now.

[William Satterwhite]

Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

On a side note, cubby do you know if you have any problems in your set with relievers become put in the starting rotation? This problem is really bugging me in fictional leagues and might make me abandon fictional leagues for now.

I've noticed this- if a relievers endurance is high enough and he's rated higher than some of the listed starters, the AI will put him in the rotation. If a guy is supposed to just be a reliever, you have to knock his endurance way down, otherwise the AI will assume he is a Miguel Batista type pitcher who can start and relieve. I remember seeing another post on this and it said the endurance needed to be a quality starter is actually relatively low compared to what you would probably expect it to be.

[AirmenSmith]

Originally Posted by William Satterwhite

I've noticed this- if a relievers endurance is high enough and he's rated higher than some of the listed starters, the AI will put him in the rotation. If a guy is supposed to just be a reliever, you have to knock his endurance way down, otherwise the AI will assume he is a Miguel Batista type pitcher who can start and relieve. I remember seeing another post on this and it said the endurance needed to be a quality starter is actually relatively low compared to what you would probably expect it to be.

I wish making his endurance lower helped but in my fictional league they have been putting in relievers with 33/100 endurance. It gets worse and worse each year in my league. First it was guys in the lower 50's, then 40's now 30's. I know there is a new endurance thing for OOTP 9 but it doesn't make sense to me if it does things like this. That's why i'm wondering if it happens in cubbies file.

[CubbyFan23]

I didn't know about this problem, if someone can detail it I'll drop pitcher endurances down. Right now, most guys are around 20 on a 1-100 scale, with long relievers at a 30.

Starters are 50 or higher as that's usually what the game uses, but maybe that's changing now?

[CubbyFan23]

On a side note, that leads me into another goal for the set (and the game I suppose).

It seems that too many guys are only able to play the infield or outfield if they don't have a rating at the other. For example, Soriano SHOULD be able to have a rating at shortstop. If a team wanted to play him there in real life, they would be able to (although he would be very bad).

In the current game, most guys like this will have a great outfield rating, and infield ratings worse than guys like David Ortiz. That doesn't seem right to me. Guys should be able to move positions freely, although they might not be close to as good at others as they are at their current one.

Does that make any sense?

[clamel]

Missing players that was a part of 40-man roster at the season opening.

San Diego

Paul Abraham SDiego San Antonio Missions AA
Minor League Baseball: Stats: Player
Wade LeBlanc SDiego Portland AAA
Minor League Baseball: Stats: Player

[AirmenSmith]

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

I didn't know about this problem, if someone can detail it I'll drop pitcher endurances down. Right now, most guys are around 20 on a 1-100 scale, with long relievers at a 30.

Starters are 50 or higher as that's usually what the game uses, but maybe that's changing now?

What I have read is that lower endurance won't matter, guys with low 30 endurance could still be in the rotation. I guess the new endurance system is the reason for this but to me its a bug. I really don't think the league is full of ppl that are like Smoltz and can go back and forth.

[kuma78]

Any ETA for release of 2.5 yet?

[Bears5122]

Really appreciate all the work you guys are putting into this. If you have an ETA on this, it would be awesome. Still torn on whether to start going now or wait till 2.5. I do tire of baseball a bit after the season ends, so if the rosters are going to be still in the works until September or something, I'll probably just get started right now with 2.2.

Thanks again.

[AirmenSmith]

Hey cubby did you plan on doing real coaches?

[clamel]

Brandon Knight is retired in this roster

He has played in MILB New Orleans and did a stint in Mets active roster
Minor League Baseball: Stats: Player

[CubbyFan23]

Yeah, planning on doing coaches eventually, if anyone wants to work on that we can work simultaneously.

clamel you're a life saver with these edits, keep 'em coming as you see them!

I have no idea on an ETA, but if I can hurry up, I would say 1-2 weeks. I really think its worth waiting for, for those of you waiting. There's a lot of really good players in AA who will impact the majors this year or next who weren't on a top prospect list at the beginning of the year that will at least get some shine vs. being completely roster fillers for the lower minors.

[udbacker58]

Originally Posted by clamel

Well lets see
the Atlanta Braves
we got some players missing in AAA (some mentioned before)
then Andy Shibilo
Minor League Baseball: Stats: Player

Barbaro Canizares
Minor League Baseball: Stats: Player

OK they might not have played when the season started but they play now...

Same things with C Jason Phillips, he is in Richmond
and I got some new photos on him

Enrique Cruz also in Richmond

I have included a zip-file over newer photos for Atlanta Braves and their AAA club
Some are missing all together, but some like Mark Kotsay, Jair Jurrjens, Jorge Campillo with new Braves caps and uniforms.
The Photos need to be checked and the "ending" _Atla needs to be deleted. A small thing of course, but then anyone can select to use this or that photos at own discression.

Hm I had to divede my files. Max size was 100. ????

Before you spend too much time, getting the pictures, you might want to check out the file I put together already - Photopacks

There are about 150 guys that I've updated to be in the right opening day uniform that I'll put out with the update, when the draft picks are finished.

[clamel]

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

Yeah, planning on doing coaches eventually, if anyone wants to work on that we can work simultaneously.

clamel you're a life saver with these edits, keep 'em coming as you see them!

I have no idea on an ETA, but if I can hurry up, I would say 1-2 weeks. I really think its worth waiting for, for those of you waiting. There's a lot of really good players in AA who will impact the majors this year or next who weren't on a top prospect list at the beginning of the year that will at least get some shine vs. being completely roster fillers for the lower minors.

Hm Hope I can help.
Big problem is of course with players having 100% identical names.
I got this for you to examine.
Rich Thompson in Angels as a pitcher. Wrong picture so I add his picture.
So the other picture belongs to the retired OF Rich Charles Thomspn, who isn´t retired at all.
He is playing in Philly minors.
Have a look
The Angels guy
Rich Thompson Stats, Bio, Photos, Highlights | AngelsBaseball.com: Team

and then this unretired Richard Charles, born 1979
(he was on DBacks after the KC picture)
Rich Thompson Stats, Bio, Photos, Highlights | MLB.com: Team

Rich Thompson Statistics (Minor Leagues) - Baseball-Reference.com

Unretire Rich Charles and perhaps name him Rich C Thompson, then fixed

Many more similar things (like the devestating Francisco Rodriguez, TWO of them in Angels)