Mantle a monster in this league

Altus · 06-17-2006, 04:15 AM

Mickey Mantle is just a monster

Year/Team/League	G	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	R	BB	HP	SF	K	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	VORP
1951 NYA - ML	134	446	123	24	1	30	99	83	73	0	10	95	26	4	.276	.371	.536	.906	41.5
1952 NYA - ML	151	565	170	26	4	26	105	112	127	0	7	112	28	9	.301	.425	.499	.924	68.7
1953 NYA - ML	152	561	198	23	7	49	122	149	141	0	4	89	43	15	.353	.480	.681	1.161	115.0
1954 NYA - ML	151	548	153	16	7	40	107	129	147	0	6	119	26	10	.279	.428	.553	.981	71.7
1955 NYA - ML	147	542	161	27	6	42	113	131	138	0	1	118	29	4	.297	.439	.601	1.041	79.1
1956 NYA - ML	145	551	185	20	5	57	136	147	117	0	4	80	34	4	.336	.449	.701	1.150	109.6
1957 PHI - ML	152	572	192	22	8	52	135	132	108	0	3	91	24	15	.336	.439	.675	1.114	101.0
1958 PHI - ML	138	509	153	20	4	45	109	117	117	0	4	107	26	5	.301	.429	.621	1.049	78.6
1959 PHI - ML	151	537	158	22	8	37	98	114	125	0	4	123	18	11	.294	.425	.572	.997	66.4
1960 PHI - ML	153	536	186	35	4	39	107	131	133	0	5	99	36	10	.347	.473	.646	1.119	110.2
1961 PHI - ML	122	447	148	25	5	40	94	104	97	0	1	68	31	10	.331	.450	.678	1.127	86.5
1962 PHI - ML	151	527	134	16	4	31	77	99	130	0	2	113	34	11	.254	.401	.476	.877	48.2
1963 PHI - ML	158	588	195	20	6	50	124	147	112	0	3	100	35	8	.332	.437	.641	1.078	109.1
1964 SLN - ML	159	578	179	25	6	46	122	108	127	0	10	109	37	15	.310	.428	.612	1.040	103.9
1965 SLN - ML	159	573	167	13	2	47	113	129	139	0	4	85	45	6	.291	.427	.567	.995	95.4
1966 SLN - ML	64	219	59	6	2	12	46	37	54	0	3	38	11	4	.269	.409	.479	.889	26.2
1967 SLN - ML	154	547	159	18	2	42	104	110	134	0	9	93	42	12	.291	.425	.561	.986	93.1
1968 SLN - ML	140	460	117	10	1	29	80	88	121	0	5	79	36	4	.254	.406	.470	.876	62.4
1969 SLN - ML	93	311	96	17	2	15	43	67	108	0	1	50	31	7	.309	.486	.521	1.007	56.5
1970 SLN - ML	135	466	141	20	5	32	84	102	132	0	4	92	45	9	.303	.453	.573	1.026	87.9
1971 CLE - ML	149	532	139	13	6	25	87	95	140	0	6	119	40	7	.261	.412	.449	.861	60.5
Total ML	2958	10615	3213	418	95	786	2105	2331	2520	0	96	1979	677	180	.303	.433	.582	1.015	1671.6

Career Postseason Batting Stats

Year/Team/League	G	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	R	BB	HP	SF	K	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	VORP
1951 NYA - ML	5	16	6	1	0	3	4	4	3	0	0	4	2	0	.375	.474	1.000	1.474	0.0
1952 NYA - ML	5	19	6	1	0	1	3	6	3	0	0	12	1	0	.316	.409	.526	.935	0.0
1953 NYA - ML	7	23	5	0	0	0	2	6	6	0	1	2	3	0	.217	.367	.217	.584	0.0
1955 NYA - ML	6	21	5	0	0	1	4	1	4	0	0	3	1	0	.238	.360	.381	.741	0.0
1956 NYA - ML	4	15	7	1	1	2	5	3	2	0	0	2	0	0	.467	.529	1.067	1.596	0.0
1961 PHI - ML	7	25	10	4	1	2	6	6	7	0	0	1	2	2	.400	.531	.880	1.411	0.0
1963 PHI - ML	4	16	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	2	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000	0.0
Total ML	38	135	39	7	2	9	24	27	25	0	1	26	9	2	.289	.398	.570	.968	0.0

Altus · 06-17-2006, 04:20 AM

batter of the week - 46
batter of the month - 35
mvps - 12
gold gloves - 2
all star - 6 (that's AI error i think - you cant have 12 mvps but only 6 all star apps)

Also career leader in vorp, runs, total bases, home runs, rbis, walks

and the best of all, he is still playing

Lidstrom · 06-17-2006, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altus

all star - 6 (that's AI error i think - you cant have 12 mvps but only 6 all star apps)

Not in the real world anyway, where you would surely be voted in consistently by the fans with those sorts of performances. However, I might believe the AI would freeze you out if you are a slow starter and are terrific in the second half of the season year after year.

Raidergoo · 06-17-2006, 09:06 AM

Shows you what no booze and no injuries will do for you.

Altus · 06-17-2006, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Shows you what no booze and no injuries will do for you.

cant speak for the booze, but he did have a few injuries. I played with injuries at normal.

Altus · 06-17-2006, 09:56 AM

I just stopped the league in 2004.

Ruth, Mantle, Pee Wee Reese and Aaron dominated the batting

Roger Clemens 250-178 career. Spent all of it in Boston. 3.77 era. did not make the hall of fame.

St Louis cards 16 World Series wins, Yanks with 12

I played with injuries at normal, quite a few QEIs

I will be happy to look up player performances.

Cowboys3356 · 06-17-2006, 10:26 AM

How is Bonds and Griffey, Jr doing?

Altus · 06-17-2006, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboys3356

How is Bonds and Griffey, Jr doing?

Bonds did ok, but nothing like real life:

Career Batting Stats

Year/Team/League	G	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	R	BB	HP	SF	K	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	VORP
1986 PIT - ML	147	498	124	25	4	23	82	91	96	2	9	132	65	14	.249	.367	.454	.821	35.7
1987 PIT - ML	138	470	128	20	7	34	90	119	132	2	5	127	79	13	.272	.430	.562	.992	71.6
1988 PIT - ML	31	110	28	9	3	3	19	13	24	0	1	28	17	5	.255	.385	.473	.858	11.4
1989 PIT - ML	95	326	84	15	4	15	52	67	85	1	2	55	47	13	.258	.411	.466	.877	37.0
1990 PIT - ML	155	561	160	31	3	41	87	123	125	4	2	105	43	13	.285	.418	.570	.988	76.3
1991 PIT - ML	151	523	144	35	5	29	89	96	123	3	2	96	31	6	.275	.415	.528	.942	63.2
1992 PIT - ML	145	496	150	26	3	23	74	87	73	3	7	108	34	2	.302	.390	.506	.896	58.6
1993 PIT - ML	101	330	71	14	0	13	40	43	42	4	4	95	10	3	.215	.308	.376	.684	-0.7
1994 LAN - ML	148	459	124	24	1	33	83	83	50	3	5	123	12	5	.270	.342	.542	.885	29.3
1995 LAN - ML	5	14	4	0	0	1	2	1	2	0	0	5	1	0	.286	.375	.500	.875	1.0
1995 KCA - ML	125	415	107	8	3	24	77	71	47	4	4	127	22	3	.258	.336	.465	.801	24.9
1995 Total - ML	130	429	111	8	3	25	79	72	49	4	4	132	23	3	.259	.337	.466	.804	25.9
1996 KCA - ML	118	442	100	15	1	18	45	80	55	3	3	133	16	6	.226	.314	.387	.701	-4.3
1997 KCA - ML	115	270	68	4	0	14	57	44	32	2	4	66	18	3	.252	.331	.422	.753	11.1
1998 KCA - ML	18	60	14	1	0	1	3	7	5	0	0	15	1	2	.233	.292	.300	.592	-2.3
Total ML	1492	4974	1306	227	34	272	800	925	891	31	48	1215	396	88	.263	.375	.486	.861	412.8

Career Postseason Batting Stats

Year/Team/League	G	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	R	BB	HP	SF	K	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	VORP
1995 KCA - ML	4	15	3	0	0	0	1	1	4	0	0	7	0	0	.200	.368	.200	.568	0.0
1996 KCA - ML	3	9	0	0	0	0	2	3	2	0	2	5	0	0	.000	.154	.000	.154	0.0
Total ML	7	24	3	0	0	0	3	4	6	0	2	12	0	0	.125	.281	.125	.406	0.0

Griffey suffered a back injury in 93 which kept him out for 13 months. He recovered, but does not seem to have the power of his real life.

Career Batting Stats

Year/Team/League	G	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	R	BB	HP	SF	K	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	VORP
1989 SEA - ML	142	453	133	26	2	16	54	53	45	1	3	83	20	10	.294	.357	.466	.822	33.9
1990 SEA - ML	118	462	123	28	2	23	76	65	56	1	2	99	14	6	.266	.345	.485	.830	31.0
1991 SEA - ML	141	564	142	24	3	29	96	103	65	1	4	84	15	4	.252	.328	.459	.787	32.2
1992 SEA - ML	129	526	148	17	4	25	80	69	59	2	2	90	12	5	.281	.355	.471	.826	36.4
1993 SEA - ML	11	43	12	1	0	1	6	6	7	0	0	5	0	0	.279	.380	.372	.752	1.3
1994 SEA - ML	138	516	143	27	10	23	91	72	80	2	4	106	20	7	.277	.374	.502	.876	41.1
1995 SEA - ML	105	404	123	17	7	20	86	73	68	2	4	68	10	4	.304	.404	.530	.933	41.5
1996 SEA - ML	135	505	144	14	1	37	101	88	56	4	2	120	5	3	.285	.360	.537	.896	39.3
1997 SEA - ML	81	286	80	15	1	24	63	47	23	1	4	59	1	4	.280	.331	.591	.922	20.8
1997 COL - ML	46	159	40	6	3	5	26	24	10	0	3	45	2	0	.252	.291	.421	.712	-0.2
1997 Total - ML	127	445	120	21	4	29	89	71	33	1	7	104	3	4	.270	.317	.530	.847	20.6
1998 COL - ML	119	472	132	18	4	37	108	73	27	3	2	103	8	3	.280	.321	.570	.891	30.4
1999 COL - ML	19	46	14	3	0	2	5	4	5	0	0	5	0	1	.304	.373	.500	.873	2.6
1999 CIN - ML	124	292	74	11	2	15	58	41	26	2	1	64	3	1	.253	.318	.459	.777	8.0
1999 Total - ML	143	338	88	14	2	17	63	45	31	2	1	69	3	2	.260	.325	.464	.790	10.6
2000 CIN - ML	122	381	99	11	2	26	83	52	39	1	4	83	8	3	.260	.327	.504	.831	18.2
2001 MIL - ML	153	437	107	15	1	26	60	51	43	4	1	93	6	5	.245	.318	.462	.780	15.5
2002 MIL - ML	141	500	108	14	2	30	70	60	43	1	1	103	5	0	.216	.279	.432	.711	13.7
2003 MIL - ML	132	477	95	18	1	24	71	56	40	5	5	105	6	0	.199	.266	.392	.658	-2.5
2004 MIL - ML	73	274	50	11	1	10	35	33	16	2	1	58	9	2	.182	.232	.339	.571	-17.4
Total ML	1929	6797	1767	276	46	373	1169	970	708	32	43	1373	144	58	.260	.331	.479	.809	345.7

Career Postseason Batting Stats

Year/Team/League	G	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	R	BB	HP	SF	K	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	VORP
1991 SEA - ML	5	19	4	0	0	2	2	2	2	0	0	1	0	0	.211	.286	.526	.812	0.0
Total ML	5	19	4	0	0	2	2	2	2	0	0	1	0	0	.211	.286	.526	.812	0.0

Lidstrom · 06-17-2006, 01:35 PM

What happened with Dale Murphy?

Altus · 06-17-2006, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lidstrom

What happened with Dale Murphy?

another monster

7 mvps

3035 hits, 565 hrs, 1807 rbis, 1952 runs, .295 career average, .395obp, .905 ops

106 post season games, 51 rbis, 70 runs,

Hall of Fame

Cowboys3356 · 06-17-2006, 11:50 PM

How about pitching? Anyone stand out as the best of the best?

Altus · 06-18-2006, 01:59 PM

Nobody really stood out apart from CY Young

Gooden and Cone were awsome for the Mets

Doc Gooden was also part of that Mets team. He finished with 4 cyyoungs as well as a rookie of the year award. Finished 215-107; 2.68 career era; 3444 Ks, HOF
Best year in 89: 29-9, 1.97 era and 87: 24-6 (1.58 era)

Cone

2 Cy Youngs

231-150, 3.25 era, won 4 WS crowns with the Mets

rogmax11 · 06-18-2006, 04:54 PM

How odd that Mantle played all those years, and did all that damage, and never once was hit by a pitch. How adroit! How nimble!

Perhaps the 40 stolen bases in his final season was a reflection of his other-worldly talent.

I dont see a lick of difference between this iteration and the previous versions in accurately producing the type of production a real human being--even a Mantle--could be expected to achieve. Color me disappointed.

Lidstrom · 06-19-2006, 06:40 AM

Why would Mantle not perform like that? Without all the partying and knee problems, he could have really had a totally different career. He thought he was going to die young, like his father, so he hardly tried to take proper care of himself. The OOTP2006 Mantle didn't have those worries, so he took good care of his body and went out there swinging everyday.

06-17-2006, 04:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
Altus Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 192	just to add batter of the week - 46 batter of the month - 35 mvps - 12 gold gloves - 2 all star - 6 (that's AI error i think - you cant have 12 mvps but only 6 all star apps) Also career leader in vorp, runs, total bases, home runs, rbis, walks and the best of all, he is still playing

06-17-2006, 09:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 39.84 N -84.12 W Posts: 7,165	Shows you what no booze and no injuries will do for you. __________________

06-17-2006, 10:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Cowboys3356 All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,250	How is Bonds and Griffey, Jr doing? __________________ Click here to sign up to play Goal Line Blitz and be part of the team!

06-17-2006, 11:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
Cowboys3356 All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,250	How about pitching? Anyone stand out as the best of the best? __________________ Click here to sign up to play Goal Line Blitz and be part of the team!

06-17-2006, 09:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
Altus Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 192	I just stopped the league in 2004. Ruth, Mantle, Pee Wee Reese and Aaron dominated the batting Roger Clemens 250-178 career. Spent all of it in Boston. 3.77 era. did not make the hall of fame. St Louis cards 16 World Series wins, Yanks with 12 I played with injuries at normal, quite a few QEIs I will be happy to look up player performances.

06-17-2006, 01:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lidstrom Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 40	What happened with Dale Murphy?

06-18-2006, 01:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
Altus Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 192	Nobody really stood out apart from CY Young Gooden and Cone were awsome for the Mets Doc Gooden was also part of that Mets team. He finished with 4 cyyoungs as well as a rookie of the year award. Finished 215-107; 2.68 career era; 3444 Ks, HOF Best year in 89: 29-9, 1.97 era and 87: 24-6 (1.58 era) Cone 2 Cy Youngs 231-150, 3.25 era, won 4 WS crowns with the Mets

06-18-2006, 04:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,198	How odd that Mantle played all those years, and did all that damage, and never once was hit by a pitch. How adroit! How nimble! Perhaps the 40 stolen bases in his final season was a reflection of his other-worldly talent. I dont see a lick of difference between this iteration and the previous versions in accurately producing the type of production a real human being--even a Mantle--could be expected to achieve. Color me disappointed.

06-19-2006, 06:40 AM	#14 (permalink)
Lidstrom Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 40	Why would Mantle not perform like that? Without all the partying and knee problems, he could have really had a totally different career. He thought he was going to die young, like his father, so he hardly tried to take proper care of himself. The OOTP2006 Mantle didn't have those worries, so he took good care of his body and went out there swinging everyday.