Best way to do an offseason.

DaMook · 10-15-2006, 06:52 PM

Im running an online league and this is our first offseason. In the previous games the offseason was just 5 days but in this game it seems like its just like in real life where its the entire winter. So what is the best way to go about this? I just want to have 5 days for the GMs to submit offers. What can I do?

Cras · 10-15-2006, 10:32 PM

Its what we call progress. There is no way to make the 2006 offseason feel like it was in 6.5, due to the way the game goes about transitioning from season to season with out the "Proceed" button.

RonCo · 10-16-2006, 06:36 AM

My first thought would be to set 5 dates as "offer days." Let's say Nov 30, Dec 15, Dec 30, Jan 15, Jan 30. Take exports, then sim to Nov 30. Take exports, then sim to Dec 15....

RonCo · 10-16-2006, 06:37 AM

By "set" I mean via commissioner's mandate on your league forum. There is no "offer day" parameter in the game. Bt a little creativity should allow you to manage this.

Kaitiaki · 10-16-2006, 08:57 AM

Commissioner mandate is essentially the only way to do it. But you don't want to spread the dates out as far as RonCo suggests. Free Agents sign quite quickly in OOTP2006. If you left 15 days between "offer dates", every player that received an offer on the first date would have signed by the second date, and there'd be no chance for negotiation.

The best way, as far as I can tell, is to mandate a FA period similiar to OOTP6: pick a week or two week period in the game (shortly after the FAs file and/or coinciding with the Winter Meetings seems like a good idea to me), and then sim one game day for every real world day for that period. Once that period is over, jump the game up to whatever the next event in your world is (Rule V, Spring Training, whatever). That way, people have an opportunity to bid competitively for the players, but it doesn't take up so much time that everyone gets incredibly bored of the process. Any FAs that haven't signed during your preset period will make up their minds as you jump forward in time once they realize no better offers are coming.

- Kai

Stu · 10-16-2006, 11:20 AM

After doing it once, here's my plan for next year:

Sim 3 days at a time, as many days as I can during the week. Hopefully at least 5 days, so we can get through 2 weeks in game time. After that, sim 21 days at a time(max DFA time) until I hit Spring Training.

Free Agents sign so quickly that simming 2 weeks a time at the beginning of FA just doesn't work.

DaMook · 10-16-2006, 11:31 AM

These all sound like good ideas but what worries me is that CPU making offers and signing players during those days that Im simming and not giving a chance to the real GMs. How do I get around this?

Kaitiaki · 10-16-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DaMook

These all sound like good ideas but what worries me is that CPU making offers and signing players during those days that Im simming and not giving a chance to the real GMs. How do I get around this?

You have CPU players in an online league? OK, that does complicate life.

Assuming those CPUs are confined to a completely different league in your world, you could forbid that league to sign foreign FAs and/or forbid FAs from your league from defecting to another (both are options in the Game Setup screen).

If you have CPU players within a league that also has human players (aside from, um, why?), you've got a couple options as well. Proceed on a day-by-day basis until every human player tells you they're done. After that, it doesn't matter who the AI bids on/signs, since no humans wanted those players anyway. Or you could set those CPU teams to Human control whenever you sim a period of time at once (basically turning of the AI), then return them back to CPU control when you want to allow everyone to negotiate again.

- Kai

DaMook · 10-16-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaitiaki

You have CPU players in an online league? OK, that does complicate life.

Assuming those CPUs are confined to a completely different league in your world, you could forbid that league to sign foreign FAs and/or forbid FAs from your league from defecting to another (both are options in the Game Setup screen).

If you have CPU players within a league that also has human players (aside from, um, why?), you've got a couple options as well. Proceed on a day-by-day basis until every human player tells you they're done. After that, it doesn't matter who the AI bids on/signs, since no humans wanted those players anyway. Or you could set those CPU teams to Human control whenever you sim a period of time at once (basically turning of the AI), then return them back to CPU control when you want to allow everyone to negotiate again.

- Kai

Yes half the league is made up of CPU teams because we just dont have enough people to play.

This sounds like a freaking headache.

Stu · 10-16-2006, 04:13 PM

I don't have any CPU teams. My league is full, but if it wasn't I'd probably run the ownerless teams like they were my own for the interim.

DaMook · 10-16-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

I don't have any CPU teams. My league is full, but if it wasn't I'd probably run the ownerless teams like they were my own for the interim.

But then the CPU teams loses out on signing good players. Eventually CPU teams will just be uncompetative.

10-15-2006, 06:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
DaMook Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 496	Best way to do an offseason. Im running an online league and this is our first offseason. In the previous games the offseason was just 5 days but in this game it seems like its just like in real life where its the entire winter. So what is the best way to go about this? I just want to have 5 days for the GMs to submit offers. What can I do?

10-15-2006, 10:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cras Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,574	Its what we call progress. There is no way to make the 2006 offseason feel like it was in 6.5, due to the way the game goes about transitioning from season to season with out the "Proceed" button. __________________ The Greatest Chicago Baseball Clubs Ever 1.) 2005 Chicago White Sox 2.) 1919 Chicago White Sox 3.) 1917 Chicago White Sox 4.) 1959 Chicago White Sox 5.) 1994 Chicago White Sox www.one.org

10-16-2006, 08:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kaitiaki Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,062	Commissioner mandate is essentially the only way to do it. But you don't want to spread the dates out as far as RonCo suggests. Free Agents sign quite quickly in OOTP2006. If you left 15 days between "offer dates", every player that received an offer on the first date would have signed by the second date, and there'd be no chance for negotiation. The best way, as far as I can tell, is to mandate a FA period similiar to OOTP6: pick a week or two week period in the game (shortly after the FAs file and/or coinciding with the Winter Meetings seems like a good idea to me), and then sim one game day for every real world day for that period. Once that period is over, jump the game up to whatever the next event in your world is (Rule V, Spring Training, whatever). That way, people have an opportunity to bid competitively for the players, but it doesn't take up so much time that everyone gets incredibly bored of the process. Any FAs that haven't signed during your preset period will make up their minds as you jump forward in time once they realize no better offers are coming. - Kai __________________ BJHL: Commissioner; Owner: Wichita War Eagles

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10-16-2006, 06:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,340	My first thought would be to set 5 dates as "offer days." Let's say Nov 30, Dec 15, Dec 30, Jan 15, Jan 30. Take exports, then sim to Nov 30. Take exports, then sim to Dec 15....

10-16-2006, 06:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,340	By "set" I mean via commissioner's mandate on your league forum. There is no "offer day" parameter in the game. Bt a little creativity should allow you to manage this.

10-16-2006, 11:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
Stu All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,025	After doing it once, here's my plan for next year: Sim 3 days at a time, as many days as I can during the week. Hopefully at least 5 days, so we can get through 2 weeks in game time. After that, sim 21 days at a time(max DFA time) until I hit Spring Training. Free Agents sign so quickly that simming 2 weeks a time at the beginning of FA just doesn't work.

10-16-2006, 11:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
DaMook Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 496	These all sound like good ideas but what worries me is that CPU making offers and signing players during those days that Im simming and not giving a chance to the real GMs. How do I get around this?

10-16-2006, 04:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
Stu All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,025	I don't have any CPU teams. My league is full, but if it wasn't I'd probably run the ownerless teams like they were my own for the interim.