Catobase Tutorial by Battists and f.montoya - Page 2

battists · 11-24-2005, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skywalker76

Just one quick question. In my solo league I'm in my 18th season. I was playing with version 6.5a until my 17th season, before I started using 6.5b. I always saved the whole league (copied the whole league folder) every season just before the proceed to next season.
Now will Cato also work for the years before I used 6.5b or will it only work from my 18th season on.

Thanks for your help

Skywalker76

Back up your cato database after EACH successful imported year! The last thing you want when trying to build an 18-year cato database is to have to start over because you hosed something after 14 years!

f.montoya · 11-24-2005, 08:54 PM

In addition, please read the "Catobase Cautions" section of the tutorial. You can avoid some difficulties down the road.

Skywalker76 · 11-26-2005, 02:54 PM

Just a plain and simple: bump.

endgame · 11-26-2005, 11:25 PM

Have we eliminated, with the most recent beta, the need for replacing the r= with p= ? Is that now an "old" issue?

battists · 11-26-2005, 11:26 PM

Yes, that has been eliminated, even if you don't run LA's "catofix".

Straight OOTP 6.5b into Cato

SandMan · 11-26-2005, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by battists

Yes, that has been eliminated, even if you don't run LA's "catofix".

Straight OOTP 6.5b into Cato

Still need to put the blank line after the trade transactions though.....

endgame · 11-26-2005, 11:31 PM

Thanks guys. I'm ready to admit now I should use a notepad more often than memory. Did I say that already?

battists · 11-26-2005, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandMan

Still need to put the blank line after the trade transactions though.....

Sandman,

Can you give me a little more detail on this? I thought this was an issue too, so was manually adding the rows, but once I went to 6.5b I tried importing a season without touching the trades, and despite no blank after the trade, everything seems to have imported fine.

How can I test to see whether it's adversely impacting the data?

Thanks!

endgame · 11-27-2005, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by battists

Sandman,

Can you give me a little more detail on this? I thought this was an issue too, so was manually adding the rows, but once I went to 6.5b I tried importing a season without touching the trades, and despite no blank after the trade, everything seems to have imported fine.

How can I test to see whether it's adversely impacting the data?

Thanks!

Apologies. Don't mean to answer for SandMan. Nobody can speak to the issue like he can, but the absence of the blank won't prevent or hinder the import in anyway necessarily. However, it will alter the data. Here is the most recent, IIRC, response to examining the problem with no blank included - starting at post 35 in this thread:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...30#post1372730

In any event, it is my sincere hope that Markus will address this as a part of the final designation of the patch as official, albeit he has no obligation to do so.

DougWyatt · 11-27-2005, 01:11 AM

Just checked this out, very nice work - much appreciated !

but .............

Catobase links do not work.

f.montoya · 11-27-2005, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DougWyatt

Just checked this out, very nice work - much appreciated !

but .............

Catobase links do not work.

That's because Joe Rock's site went down a day or so ago(knew it was a matter of time before that happened). I'll try and put those files up on one of my site as soon as possible. Give me until Monday morning and you'll be able to download them. In the meantime, try "Jazzracks" new OOTP downloads site. He may have Catobase there.

sporr · 11-28-2005, 07:33 PM

Very nice. Thanks!

f.montoya · 11-30-2005, 07:53 AM

Updated. Including the links to download Catobase from Jazzrack's website.

All should be prefect if you have the new 6.51 patch.

diesel230 · 11-30-2005, 07:34 PM

Where on Jazzrocks sight, are the Cato updates available?

f.montoya · 11-30-2005, 09:33 PM

Just go to the Catobase Tutorial site. The direct links to download are there.

http://www.allsimbaseball.com/battmontcato/

disposableheros · 11-30-2005, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diesel230

Where on JazzrAcks sight, are the Cato updates available?

http://jazzrack.us/corporate/?page_id=98

MrWorkrate · 12-01-2005, 09:46 AM

I know Skywalker asked a similar question, but I wanted to get some clarification on an issue.

The current instructions set up show how to use Cato with a league running 6.51. I currently have a previous season saved at the end of the season (not yet flipped) that was run in 6.5a. I don't believe installing 6.51 will do anything with this league (since it just basically overwrites the OOTP65.exe file), so the info is still based in 6.5a.

I guess the questions are 1) am I wrong in thinking that the league would still "believe" that it's in 6.5a instead of 6.51 since I can't advance a day or sim anything without flipping the season, and 2) if it is being treated like 6.5a, would you be able to put those instructions back on the website?

battists · 12-01-2005, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWorkrate

The current instructions set up show how to use Cato with a league running 6.51. I currently have a previous season saved at the end of the season (not yet flipped) that was run in 6.5a. I don't believe installing 6.51 will do anything with this league (since it just basically overwrites the OOTP65.exe file), so the info is still based in 6.5a.

I guess the questions are 1) am I wrong in thinking that the league would still "believe" that it's in 6.5a instead of 6.51 since I can't advance a day or sim anything without flipping the season, and 2) if it is being treated like 6.5a, would you be able to put those instructions back on the website?

MrWorkrate, if I understand correctly, here's what you do.

1. Install 6.51 if it's not already.
2. Backup your old league file, just to be sure.
3. Open your old league file in 6.51, save and quit
4. Go through all of the cato steps listed here.

Honestly, 6.51 and cato should handle your "older" league file fine. I just suggested step 3 just to make sure. I think you'll be fine.

f.montoya · 12-01-2005, 12:01 PM

If that doesn't work. Try this: Send a copy of the league file to 6.12. Open it. Make a minor change, like moving a relief pitcher from #3 to #4. save and quit.

Move the game back to 6.51. It should "convert" to 6.51 again, thereby adding or formatting the league file to fit the version.

If this doesn't work, the old steps were simply to edit the ltrans(after it's been renamed to ltrans) so that a blank line/space is before and after the entire details of each trade. Other than this, the rest of the tutorial will suffice.

f.montoya · 12-01-2005, 12:03 PM

Oh, if it's 6.5a not 6.5b that you are using, try Larry Anderson's Catofix. PM him and ask for it.(Comedian2004)

11-24-2005, 08:54 PM	#22 (permalink)
f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,304	In addition, please read the "Catobase Cautions" section of the tutorial. You can avoid some difficulties down the road. __________________ Fidel Montoya Asahi2 Baseball Commissioner(Historical League Since 2004) www.allsimbaseball.com (Hosting for OOTP with LIVE Online Tutorials) Share Your Mods - Free, unlimited and easy to upload to share your Mods instantly(free site registration required)

11-26-2005, 11:25 PM	#24 (permalink)
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 6,115	Have we eliminated, with the most recent beta, the need for replacing the r= with p= ? Is that now an "old" issue? __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett We live in the shadowlands. The sun is always shining somewhere else. __________________

11-26-2005, 11:31 PM	#27 (permalink)
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 6,115	Thanks guys. I'm ready to admit now I should use a notepad more often than memory. Did I say that already? __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett We live in the shadowlands. The sun is always shining somewhere else. __________________

11-28-2005, 07:33 PM	#32 (permalink)
sporr Moderator* Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,180	Very nice. Thanks! __________________ Baseball Maelstrom - Commish/ St Louis Cardinals USBA - Las Vegas Scorpions

11-30-2005, 07:53 AM	#33 (permalink)
f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,304	Updated. Including the links to download Catobase from Jazzrack's website. All should be prefect if you have the new 6.51 patch. __________________ Fidel Montoya Asahi2 Baseball Commissioner(Historical League Since 2004) www.allsimbaseball.com (Hosting for OOTP with LIVE Online Tutorials) Share Your Mods - Free, unlimited and easy to upload to share your Mods instantly(free site registration required)

11-26-2005, 02:54 PM	#23 (permalink)
Skywalker76 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Nicosia, Cyprus Posts: 789	Just a plain and simple: bump.

11-26-2005, 11:26 PM	#25 (permalink)
battists Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 14,130	Yes, that has been eliminated, even if you don't run LA's "catofix". Straight OOTP 6.5b into Cato

11-27-2005, 01:11 AM	#30 (permalink)
DougWyatt All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,081	Just checked this out, very nice work - much appreciated ! but ............. Catobase links do not work.

11-30-2005, 07:34 PM	#34 (permalink)
diesel230 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 22	Where on Jazzrocks sight, are the Cato updates available?

11-30-2005, 09:33 PM	#35 (permalink)
f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,304	Just go to the Catobase Tutorial site. The direct links to download are there. http://www.allsimbaseball.com/battmontcato/ __________________ Fidel Montoya Asahi2 Baseball Commissioner(Historical League Since 2004) www.allsimbaseball.com (Hosting for OOTP with LIVE Online Tutorials) Share Your Mods - Free, unlimited and easy to upload to share your Mods instantly(free site registration required)

12-01-2005, 09:46 AM	#37 (permalink)
MrWorkrate All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,166	I know Skywalker asked a similar question, but I wanted to get some clarification on an issue. The current instructions set up show how to use Cato with a league running 6.51. I currently have a previous season saved at the end of the season (not yet flipped) that was run in 6.5a. I don't believe installing 6.51 will do anything with this league (since it just basically overwrites the OOTP65.exe file), so the info is still based in 6.5a. I guess the questions are 1) am I wrong in thinking that the league would still "believe" that it's in 6.5a instead of 6.51 since I can't advance a day or sim anything without flipping the season, and 2) if it is being treated like 6.5a, would you be able to put those instructions back on the website? __________________ I used to come here a lot. Now, not so much.

12-01-2005, 12:01 PM	#39 (permalink)
f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,304	If that doesn't work. Try this: Send a copy of the league file to 6.12. Open it. Make a minor change, like moving a relief pitcher from #3 to #4. save and quit. Move the game back to 6.51. It should "convert" to 6.51 again, thereby adding or formatting the league file to fit the version. If this doesn't work, the old steps were simply to edit the ltrans(after it's been renamed to ltrans) so that a blank line/space is before and after the entire details of each trade. Other than this, the rest of the tutorial will suffice. __________________ Fidel Montoya Asahi2 Baseball Commissioner(Historical League Since 2004) www.allsimbaseball.com (Hosting for OOTP with LIVE Online Tutorials) Share Your Mods - Free, unlimited and easy to upload to share your Mods instantly(free site registration required)

12-01-2005, 12:03 PM	#40 (permalink)
f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,304	Oh, if it's 6.5a not 6.5b that you are using, try Larry Anderson's Catofix. PM him and ask for it.(Comedian2004) __________________ Fidel Montoya Asahi2 Baseball Commissioner(Historical League Since 2004) www.allsimbaseball.com (Hosting for OOTP with LIVE Online Tutorials) Share Your Mods - Free, unlimited and easy to upload to share your Mods instantly(free site registration required)

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