Official Rolen/Cubby Player Rating Question Thread - Page 19

neojonas · 09-19-2006, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by majesty95

All of that aside, when was the most recent edition of the roster set released and where can I find it?

Check out www.ootpmodsquad.com. They have the latest of the roster files.

majesty95 · 09-20-2006, 11:22 AM

OK, got it. Now what do I do with it? I don't remember 6.5 being like this. Its in a zip file but dosen't appear to be formatted properly to just copy and paste.

neojonas · 09-20-2006, 03:29 PM

Check out your other thread.
Using a roster set from Cubby/Rolen

tank222 · 09-22-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Erich Ingram

Yeah I think I fixed that in the file I released.

Ah, sorry. I don't think I have the latest set. I'm waiting for the finished version.

tank222 · 09-22-2006, 04:36 PM

Just noticed you guys have 2 different roster sets. Is there any notable differences between the two?

neojonas · 09-22-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tank222

Just noticed you guys have 2 different roster sets. Is there any notable differences between the two?

Erich's are newer, have the minors rated better, fixed some minor league alignment issues, etc.

evanbarth · 09-23-2006, 12:36 AM

Is this the final release? Are the rosters fixed in that the minors dont dominate after 2 years? Thanks for all the work, rosters look great.

randomlefty10 · 09-24-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Erich Ingram

Well I am thinking you need to go look at Joe Crede's numbers. REFUTED.

Adrian Beltre, post June 1: .286/.345./528
Joe Crede, post June 1: .279/.320/.517

you were saying?

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Well that is putting a lot of emphasis on a stat that is brand new and being tested out.

K, BB, and HR rates are brand new? News to me.

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I guess the stats like OBA and ERA don't count anymore when seeing how good a player is.

Not really, no. They're pretty poor indicators. Especially compared to K%, BB%, HR%, and GB/FB ratio

Erich Ingram · 09-24-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by randomlefty10

Adrian Beltre, post June 1: .286/.345./528
Joe Crede, post June 1: .279/.320/.517

you were saying?

What end date did you use for Crede V Beltre please as that could skew your results as you made your comments awhile ago and so did I and Crede has not played well in September, but maybe now ARod has better numbers.

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Originally Posted by randomlefty10

K, BB, and HR rates are brand new? News to me.

You know these are not the stats I was talking about, I was talking about xFIP, because if you look at the numbers for Putz in the other categories he is beaten in bb/g and hr/g by the guys I was talking about so please try and look at a whole comment and not just pull out pieces to attempt to make someone look stupid, it just doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by randomlefty10

Not really, no. They're pretty poor indicators. Especially compared to K%, BB%, HR%, and GB/FB ratio

How is GB/FB such a great indicator of pitcher quality? All it tells me is if the player needs great infielders or a larger stadium

Erich Ingram · 09-24-2006, 10:37 PM

I know you really want to look at the one year that he did well and think his potentials should be higher, but here is the reason that I think that is a bad idea, because that will lead to him becoming that good and possibly/probably doing that every year in the game. He is not likely to do that again and with the ratings set up the way they are, there is a chance he could have a season like that if everything fell in just so in the game, which is what had to happen that year. I am sorry that we disagree so much on this but I think you will see that outside of Seattle fans you are generally going to see that most people will favor my side of the arguement with regard to Mr. Beltre.

Good luck with your internship at ESPN as it says in your profile. If you are actually there doing an internship( and I have no reason to doubt it) why don't you go ask some of the guys there what they think of Beltre and how he should be rated. Go see if they think it was a chemically enhanced year.

I would be interested to hear the responses.

APujols5 · 09-24-2006, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomlefty10

Adrian Beltre, post June 1: .286/.345./528
Joe Crede, post June 1: .279/.320/.517

you were saying?

K, BB, and HR rates are brand new? News to me.

Not really, no. They're pretty poor indicators. Especially compared to K%, BB%, HR%, and GB/FB ratio

So since you know so much Random, where can I download your "Perfect roster" at?

MZBKA · 10-08-2006, 10:22 PM

How do you make it so the computer will make trades on its own. . .I have Rolen's rosters.

evanbarth · 10-10-2006, 11:28 PM

I have the same issue. Anyone know to fix it so the other 29 teams make moves.

deadringer · 10-11-2006, 11:44 AM

Go to the game setup tab. Go down to the bottom and pick the pull up menu, I think it's called "action". Select, allow AI teams to make roster moves.

eb45 · 10-22-2006, 09:22 PM

Hey Erich, why is Erik Bedard rated so low? He had a run of about 10 starts where he was the best pitcher in the majors, better than even Santana. Also, if you eliminate his ugly 1-7 stretch, his ERA is under 3 and he's 14-3 on the season. I know pitchers are generally lower rated, but Bedard is among the best in the game and severely underrated. If you decide that he's not worthy of a higher rating, then at least raise his potential. He's still developing! Also, Nick Markakis should be rated higher than Melky Cabrera.

EDIT: Never mind the Markakis part. I verified it and he is in fact rated higher than Cabrera.

darkcloud4579 · 11-11-2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Human Tornado

I know the Yankee haters are out in full force, so if we can set that aside for a minute...

I just started a new league as Yankee GM and the first series is against the As. Here are my questions as it relates to the ratings of some Yankee players:

Sheffield (75) & Giambi (78) are both rated with less power than Frank Thomas (84). Currently Giambi is outslugging Thomas in HRs and SLG% and even recent trends suggest Giambi's power stroke is at LEAST equal to Thomas. And personally I just feel like Sheff's power should be higher due to his HR production over the past 3 years.
Cano's ratings are higher than his potential in every offensive catagory. Does that sound fishy to anyone but me? Is that suggesting that he will cool off and become a completely average ballplayer?

I suppose that's all for now though there are some other minor numbers I feel like I could quibble about. Yes, I know I can just change them if I want, but for some reason I feel like I need buy-in on these things to keep a sort-of level playing field. Go on and bash the Yankees bottomless payroll all you want. I just want to give the players ratings that reflect who they are (as all simmers would want to do).
Opinions? Let me clarify that: creative opinions on the ratings of the players mentioned?

I noticed this too. The Yankees players, Cano and others were all rated well below where they'd be in real life.

And I'm a Blue Jays fan.

09-22-2006, 04:36 PM	#365 (permalink)
tank222 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 38	Just noticed you guys have 2 different roster sets. Is there any notable differences between the two? __________________ In Andy MacPhail We Trust - Go O's

09-24-2006, 10:37 PM	#370 (permalink)
Erich Ingram Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,022	I know you really want to look at the one year that he did well and think his potentials should be higher, but here is the reason that I think that is a bad idea, because that will lead to him becoming that good and possibly/probably doing that every year in the game. He is not likely to do that again and with the ratings set up the way they are, there is a chance he could have a season like that if everything fell in just so in the game, which is what had to happen that year. I am sorry that we disagree so much on this but I think you will see that outside of Seattle fans you are generally going to see that most people will favor my side of the arguement with regard to Mr. Beltre. Good luck with your internship at ESPN as it says in your profile. If you are actually there doing an internship( and I have no reason to doubt it) why don't you go ask some of the guys there what they think of Beltre and how he should be rated. Go see if they think it was a chemically enhanced year. I would be interested to hear the responses. __________________ Erich Ingram (Rolen17) IOSBL San Diego Aztecs 2010, 2012,2013, 2014 World Series Champions Maelstrom Padres eMLB Washington Nationals

10-22-2006, 09:22 PM	#375 (permalink)
eb45 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 28	Hey Erich, why is Erik Bedard rated so low? He had a run of about 10 starts where he was the best pitcher in the majors, better than even Santana. Also, if you eliminate his ugly 1-7 stretch, his ERA is under 3 and he's 14-3 on the season. I know pitchers are generally lower rated, but Bedard is among the best in the game and severely underrated. If you decide that he's not worthy of a higher rating, then at least raise his potential. He's still developing! Also, Nick Markakis should be rated higher than Melky Cabrera. EDIT: Never mind the Markakis part. I verified it and he is in fact rated higher than Cabrera. Last edited by eb45 : 10-22-2006 at 09:26 PM.

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09-20-2006, 11:22 AM	#362 (permalink)
majesty95 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	OK, got it. Now what do I do with it? I don't remember 6.5 being like this. Its in a zip file but dosen't appear to be formatted properly to just copy and paste.

09-20-2006, 03:29 PM	#363 (permalink)
neojonas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 432	Check out your other thread. Using a roster set from Cubby/Rolen

09-23-2006, 12:36 AM	#367 (permalink)
evanbarth Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 116	Is this the final release? Are the rosters fixed in that the minors dont dominate after 2 years? Thanks for all the work, rosters look great.

10-08-2006, 10:22 PM	#372 (permalink)
MZBKA Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 81	How do you make it so the computer will make trades on its own. . .I have Rolen's rosters.

10-10-2006, 11:28 PM	#373 (permalink)
evanbarth Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 116	I have the same issue. Anyone know to fix it so the other 29 teams make moves.

10-11-2006, 11:44 AM	#374 (permalink)
deadringer All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: La Grande, Oregon Posts: 656	Go to the game setup tab. Go down to the bottom and pick the pull up menu, I think it's called "action". Select, allow AI teams to make roster moves.