Quickstart Fictional 1930's universe template available soon

[Tiger Fan]

I have sent to OOTPmodsquad (http://www.ootpmodsquad.com/) a quickstart template that I have been using for my own fictional universe. Hopefully, some others may find it useful. It should be available in the next couple of days.

In the meantime here is a description of how I set up my universe.

This quickstart was designed to roughly recreate baseball's pre-expansion days using fictional players and multiple levels of play.

To use simply unzip the file into the WORLD_TEMPLATES folder within the data folder of OOTP2006. Select start new game and then select load template. Feel free to customize it to suit your needs any way you like.

I have also started collecting uniform logos in this thread. Tons of Logos requested for 1930's Quickstart I am making

If you decide to create any others of your own please post them there for all to use.

thanks
Tiger Fan


ABOUT THE TEMPLATE
I tried to make it so that there were 3 popular United States leagues. I used Mark Benson's Regional Historical Mod to have the US divided into 3 regions. You may need to have the mod for the league to work properly for you. It is available at AllSimBaseball.com

http://www.allsimbaseball.com/index....catid=18&id=69


Primarily, of course, would be major league baseball with the real teams of the era. While in real life there were very few affiliated minor league squads in this era, I decided my major leagues would have 3 levels of minors. The top level would be Class AA and consist of the American Association and International League. Next we would have Class A featuring the Eastern League and the Texas League. Finally Class B was comprised of the Appalachian and Illinois-Indiana-Iowa (Three I) League.


For the major leagues I set it so all players will come from the North and East regions of the United States and no foreign born rookies will appear in the draft pool. However, as seasons progress players from other US regions and even Canada and Mexico may be signed by major league clubs.


The next highest league prestige-wise is the Pacific Coast League. Comprised intially of players only from the Western United States, the PCL can not match the salaries of the big clubs from the east and will always have to worry about losing their top players to the major leagues. I turned on free agency in all leagues for just this reason- to allow the best players from throughout the universe to gravitate towards the major leagues. PCL clubs are also allowed to trade with major league teams and just like the majors, the PCL squads have a minor league system of their own with two levels. First there is the Western International League which is roughly Class A quality and then the Class B level California League.

The smallest of the big three is the Southern Semi-Pro Association. It contains 2 leagues based in the southern United States and their draft pool comes exclusively from this region. Both the major leagues and the PCL squads will raid the Southern clubs of their best talent but in turn the southern leagues are a more attractive option for the lower level "Semi-Pro" leagues of this era. They still call themselves Semi-Pro but the clubs in these two leagues do pay better salaries than any of the other semi-pro leagues, however it is still a far cry from what a talented ballplayer could earn in the PCL or MLB.


The low level semi-pro leagues include a Canadian League, an eastern United States league based primarily in Ohio/Pennsylvania and a Mexican League. The Mexican League forces it's players to stay in their own league for a much longer time and restricts the amount of foreigners allowed into their Mexican National League. The other two leagues are wide-open and can sign anyone willing to play for the small dollars a semi-pro league can offer. On rare occassions a youngster from one of these three leagues may eventually make the majors but for the most part these players lack the skill to compete at a high level and even the Southern Association becomes a very lofty goal.


I tinkered with this file to try and find a nice balance in revenues and talent so that the leagues would work on a tier system. I think the result works pretty well but I am always open to suggestions.

There are some nice options for a solo career manager that range from taking a big budget major league club to running the smallest semi-pro league team and contending with your top players always leaving you.

Enjoy.

[sovereignstar]

Looking forward to checking this out.

[Mike Donlin]

This looks great and is similar to what I imagined setting up. Thanks for doing the leg work, Tiger Fan.

[Tiger Fan]

Your welcome. It is now posted for anyone interested.

http://www.ootpmodsquad.com/mods/ros...30s_League.zip

[sovereignstar]

Thanks for sharing your work, Tiger Fan.

I did just notice that the Senators have two Class B teams though (and the Braves don't have one).

[Tiger Fan]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Thanks for sharing your work, Tiger Fan.

I did just notice that the Senators have two Class B teams though (and the Braves don't have one).

My mistake. The 3I League's Evansville Bees should be the Braves class B affiliate while the Sens keep the Newport Canners of the Appalachian League.

I will see if I can send a corrected file to the modsquad.

thanks

[Tiger Fan]

I have sent an updated file to the modsquad. So the issue with 2 Washington Class B farm teams will be corrected.

My apologies again.

[Gator]

I'm excited to use your quickstart, but I cannot find the WORLD_TEMPLATES folder you reference. I looked into the DATA folder and found TEMPLATES, but not WORLD_TEMPLATES. Do you have any advice?

[Tiger Fan]

Do you have the latest patch?

When you select start a new league do you have an option to load a template? If so you have the new patch. Maybe just create a folder called world_templates just as you see it with _ between the 2 words.

Do not put it in the templates folder. That is something different.

[sovereignstar]

I had to manually create that folder.

[Gator]

I downloaded the new patch, I think. When I start a new league, it gives me the option to import a historical league, is that what you mean? If not, please give the instructions to me slow, I'm not of the digital age.

[Gator]

I got it to work. There may be hope for this old man yet.

[Gil Thorp]

Originally Posted by Tiger Fan

I used Mark Benson's Regional Historical Mod to have the US divided into 3 regions. You may need to have the mod for the league to work properly for you.

Thank you for your work. I'm looking forward to trying this out. One question. What does this mod do and where does it go? Nevermind. I see it has a readme file.

[Carplos]

I was way too giddy for the first player I just found in a five year sim (so far) who had spent two mediocre years with the New York Giants, went to the PCL (unfortunately with LA) and was top notch for two seasons, only to go back to the majors (with the Giants again, to make it even cooler) and be a top hurler on his second go around!

[Tiger Fan]

Originally Posted by Carplos

I was way too giddy for the first player I just found in a five year sim (so far) who had spent two mediocre years with the New York Giants, went to the PCL (unfortunately with LA) and was top notch for two seasons, only to go back to the majors (with the Giants again, to make it even cooler) and be a top hurler on his second go around!

Glad you enjoy it.
I find tracking the careers of players to be a lot of fun now that I have 20 seasons in. Especially interesting to see the occassional superstar from the Canadian League get a cup of joe in the bigs.

[Carplos]

There's only two issues I've noticed:

1) The Eastern SPL has .000 for a Pitching Movement. It looks like you want to have it low.. but that low?

2) You've lowered both PCMs and MLEs. This had made players in the worst leagues significantly worse than it seems you actually designed them to be. For example, I haven't had a single Mexican League player leave the nation, even though the top players have often gone to free agency. It's made quite a few "great" (for the Mexican league) players retire early. Same for the ESPL.

[Mike Donlin]

Originally Posted by Carplos

There's only two issues I've noticed:

1) The Eastern SPL has .000 for a Pitching Movement. It looks like you want to have it low.. but that low?

2) You've lowered both PCMs and MLEs. This had made players in the worst leagues significantly worse than it seems you actually designed them to be. For example, I haven't had a single Mexican League player leave the nation, even though the top players have often gone to free agency. It's made quite a few "great" (for the Mexican league) players retire early. Same for the ESPL.

For #1, I think it is supposed to be .500 since that is what stuff and control are.

For #2, I think a solution would be to raise the MLEs to what the PCL MLEs are--that is, .850/.800/.800/.900/.900--and leave the PCMs alone. Although now that I look at it, that would make the Southern Semi-Pro League the equivalent of the PCL. So perhaps leave those MLEs where they are, but for the other semi-prol leagues bump them up. That shoudl work because the semi-pro PCMs are significantly lowered--unlike the SSPL which creates the same level players as MLB and the PCL.

I'll run some tests and see. But this is a very cool template. There really is no way around not having the MLB teams have minor league affiliates since even before there were formal affiliations there were "options" wherein ML teams could sell a player to a certain minor league team with the option to buy him back at a later date. You just can't recreate that in OOTP.

[Mike Donlin]

dola

Actually, though, if your goal is to increase the movement of players from Mexican, Eastern, and Canadian semi-pro leagues to other leagues, then you would need to increase the PCMs as well as (or in lieu of) the MLEs.

[Carplos]

Oh, I know exactly what to do, I was just pointing it out to TigerFan in case he wanted to make adjustments since I really don't think they're generating players at the level he wanted.

[Tiger Fan]

Originally Posted by Carplos

There's only two issues I've noticed:

1) The Eastern SPL has .000 for a Pitching Movement. It looks like you want to have it low.. but that low?

2) You've lowered both PCMs and MLEs. This had made players in the worst leagues significantly worse than it seems you actually designed them to be. For example, I haven't had a single Mexican League player leave the nation, even though the top players have often gone to free agency. It's made quite a few "great" (for the Mexican league) players retire early. Same for the ESPL.

Not sure what happened with #1. In my original copy of the file pitcher movement does say .500 for the Eastern SPL.

As for #2, my goal was more to see old or fringe major league and PCLers bolt to Canada or Mexico and become stars rather than have the Canadian and Mexican players make the bigs. In 50 seasons of play I had a couple of Canadian players appear in a few major league games but I have not noticed any one from the Mexican League make the majors - although a few did play in the minors.