[kagnew35]

Thanks, fidel, emailed you. do you have an idea of what the problem is?

[kagnew35]

Myasusan, are there many Japanese OOTP players that you know of? Would love to run combined league with mostly, if not all NPB owners from Japan.

[f.montoya]

Bill, you can get it here...

http://www.allsimbaseball.com/2007mo...tJPBMLB.lg.zip

Be sure to make a backup, edit the paths to the databases so the game can find your Lahman and NPB databases. Then run a test sim to be sure they're correct.

[myasu]

To Fidel,

Thanks a lot for your porosal.
I think I somehow got it done right last night, even though I have not really played it yet.
If I were to face any more problems, I will try to talk to you on AIM!

To Kagnew35,

Unfortunately, I have not found any Japanese OOTP players to this date, except for my brother, who would not be able to join this forum because he does not speak/read English well....
If I knew any, I would have loved to start my first online league though.

[myasu]

Originally Posted by myasu

To Fidel,

Thanks a lot for your porosal.
I think I somehow got it done right last night, even though I have not really played it yet.
If I were to face any more problems, I will try to talk to you on AIM!

To Kagnew35,

Unfortunately, I have not found any Japanese OOTP players to this date, except for my brother, who would not be able to join this forum because he does not speak/read English well....
If I knew any, I would have loved to start my first online league though.

Well Guys,

My bad...

I could finally load the both leagues together yesterday!
I should have read one of the very first posts murmur13 put....
All this time I was using the Wizard to load the leagues, and I think that was the problem.
I somehow tried to load the both leagues by NOT using the Wizard, and here they are! 2 leagues in my hand!!!

Thanks again murmur13, for the great work!
I will give you my feedback after I try this out for few days.
After all, I am a Japanese and I should know something about NPB better than most of the guys around here...

[murmur13]

I've updated the historical database one more time now. Looking over the previous version, I noticed that some of the players were essentially split in two, with one player with stats up to 2004, and a second player with the same name with stats only from 05 and 06. This has been fixed in this release, along with a few other issues.

Please read the README file. If you have already started a historical league, you can just replace the 3_NPBwMLBeq_Import folder and things should be fine. Please PM me if you have any questions.

NPB Historical Database, version 0.81

[myasu]

Originally Posted by murmur13

I've updated the historical database one more time now. Looking over the previous version, I noticed that some of the players were essentially split in two, with one player with stats up to 2004, and a second player with the same name with stats only from 05 and 06. This has been fixed in this release, along with a few other issues.

Please read the README file. If you have already started a historical league, you can just replace the 3_NPBwMLBeq_Import folder and things should be fine. Please PM me if you have any questions.

NPB Historical Database, version 0.8

murmur13,

Thanks a lot again for the wonderful roster set!

As I have played it around for few years from 1958~, I noticed few things that I think you maybe should know.

1) The endurance rates of the pitchers seem to be too low. Specially for the great pitchers like Inao, Kaneda, Murayama...., I personally think they deserve the endurance at least something like 11, 12, 13. (I agree that the overall ratings of the Japanese players should be lower than that of MLB players, but I also think that the endurance factor should not this defferent. After few years of simming, I checked out the Inao's pitching stats, to find out that he had like 4-2 record, with like 45GS, with NO CG in NPB!

Even now, some of the NPB ace starting pitchers are known as to have 140pitches/outing when the game is important, and I think at this era (50's~60's) it was more like there were 2~3 very strong starting pitchers doing almost everything (starting every 3 games, and get on the mound every other games to pitch as a closer) to carry the team.

I also noticed the position status of most of the pitchers are RP, but I doubt that does have anything to do with the great pitchers only throw like 3~4 innings/game and take showers even though they did not allow the opponents a run...

However, this is an amasing work of you, murmur13!
I am deeply impressed by what you created......I would never be able to do this myself.
So, please take above just as a feedback, definetely not a complaint!

[murmur13]

Thanks Myasu. Ahhh....I may have figured out the problem with the pitchers. From the database that I used to make this file, there is no information for games started for many seasons/players before 1980. My guess is that the game uses games started over innings pitched to decide player endurance. I'll start on a workaround now and hopefully have a new version up later today.

[murmur13]

Ok. There's a new version of the DB up now. It was a bit difficult to fill in game started for players without this rating, especially since in the early days of NPB, aces like Masaichi Kaneda would start about 40 games a year (with 15-30 complete games) AND pitch in relief for another 20 games. So I put together a few formulas to try and estimate games started...if you're interested, the work is in 1_Raw_NPB/Pitching_GSworksheet4.xls. After this, pitchers like Kaneda have about a 200-210 in endurance and will pitch approximately 280-300 innings in a 130 game season (the computer doesn't tend to use ace starters also in relief). Here is the new file with updated games started. Post here if there are any problems and/or if you have any questions.

NPB Historical Database, v 0.81

[myasu]

Originally Posted by murmur13

Ok. There's a new version of the DB up now. It was a bit difficult to fill in game started for players without this rating, especially since in the early days of NPB, aces like Masaichi Kaneda would start about 40 games a year (with 15-30 complete games) AND pitch in relief for another 20 games. So I put together a few formulas to try and estimate games started...if you're interested, the work is in 1_Raw_NPB/Pitching_GSworksheet4.xls. After this, pitchers like Kaneda have about a 200-210 in endurance and will pitch approximately 280-300 innings in a 130 game season (the computer doesn't tend to use ace starters also in relief). Here is the new file with updated games started. Post here if there are any problems and/or if you have any questions.

NPB Historical Database, v 0.81

murmur13,

Wow! It was so quick!
I have been running the set from 1958~70 right now, to see how the changes will do to the results, but I am pretty sure that the database is way better than before, and I am really impressed with your work!!!
I also checked out the EXEL file you mentioned above, and it looks much better now.

Will let you know if I noticed anything else after few running!

Thanks a million once again for your great work here!

[HerbD]

I am attempting to build a DB from a 20+ year old online league so that we can import into 2007 and keep our history. Aside from the AL/NL thing are there eny other things that I should know about the DB structure? Do the divisions have to be E/C/W? Any quirks I should be aware of?

Any help would be appreciated.

[kagnew35]

Murmur, been playin with this set for a while, love it. Only problem is the game changing the cities when u maake the NPB Japamese, just makes a lot of extra work.

Markus, please fix this in next patch. Are a lot of things that could make it easier, ie, scroll bars staying in place when making changes.

Will soon be starting an online league, using this db, starting in 2001, instead of the 2007 roster set. Will need 46 gms/owners, Thiose from my aborted Realtime Baseball League interested get 1st choices.

Have come to conclusion that starting a current 2007 league is a one shot deal, play just one year if you don't want to use fictional players. Game is just not set up to play in real time.

More on this league soon.

[kagnew35]

Murmur, would it be sensible to just add a team to make the leagues even in say 1950 and have an opening day draft to equalize things? To me the important thing is to know Japanese players, not having each on proper teams.

A league using both MLB and NPB starting in 1950 with NPB using a 9 year to free agency might be fun, Use the posting process in the forum., with a realistic limit on number that can be posted each year.

[murmur13]

What I did was just start in 1958....there were even teams that year, and I haven't had any problems simming a league history from then onward through 2007. However, if you really want to play with seasons prior to 1958, then your suggestion (extra team + draft) makes sense. I've run some sims using this database from 1958 to the present, running MLB and NPB (with a nine year free agency limit) and it was extremely fun.

Also, I plan on making an updated file, adding NPB statistics from 2007, sometime in March, assuming I have the spare time for that.

[kagnew35]

Am thinking of a 1950 start to play on a American-Japanese reproachment after WW2. i added a team, released all NPB players and ran an automatic draft,. Players won't be on right teams, but thats not crucial as idea is to learn japanese players. I also set a 9 year to free agency and figured on using a limited posting process in the forums. Limit number of players allowed to be posted each year. Also I have experienced simming one day before changing NPB to Japanese league, the cities do not change. As I figure on not importing to historical teams, should be no problems. Still have to rename the NiGun teams cities tho.

What would you think the best way to limit interleague trades? Will ammies appear in both MLB and NPB? Seperately?

[murmur13]

As for limiting interleague trades, I don't know. I just set interleague trades as off in doing an MLB/NPB sim. As for new players appearing, every new player will appear in the league that they debuted (I think).

[murmur13]

I am currently working on an update to the Nippon Professional Baseball historical database (in Lahman format) that can be imported into OOTP for play use. I've tested it, and the following changes have been added:

• Full statistics for the 2007 season

• Updated franchise information, making franchise moves and expansion/contraction possible

• A separate database with MLB equivalencies for NPB players based on historical era (new!), making for more realistic statistics when playing concurrent historical MLB and NPB seasons

• Accurate and working importing of award winners and hall of famers

This is in addition to the features from last year's version of the database, which is a detailed Lahman database for Japanese baseball with every NPB player, complete batting and pitching statistics for the majority of players, fielding statistics from 1990-now and for select earlier players, all stars, award winners, hall of famers, team history, franchise history, etc.

I would release it now, but the database has the following flaws, which were in last year's version:

• Missing secondary batting stats (doubles, triples, caught stealing) for some players from the 30s to the 80s

• Missing fielding position information for some players from the 30s to the 80s

• Lots of missing fielding statistics from the 30s to the 80s (current workaround: fake stats based on an average NPB player)

The last issue won't be fixable for now, as fielding statistics before the 80s are extremely difficult to find.

However, the Data Warehouse at Japan Baseball Daily has been updated since I last posted this database, and currently contains nearly all of the missing batting statistics and positional information for nearly every player that has played in NPB. This is great, except that it is not in database/spreadsheet format. Instead it is a bunch of tables on separate web pages on the site. I would love to add this information, but it would probably take months to enter it all manually into the NPB Lahman database myself.

Fortunately, it looks like the data at Japan Baseball Daily is in a pretty standard format, and could be pulled from the site into a spreadsheet/database using a script. Unfortunately, I don't have the expertise to do this. However, if there is anyone that does and is willing to help, please let me know. I would love to have a more complete version of the database available for historical players. If you can help with this project, or if you are aware of a newer NPB database that has this information, please PM me.

[clamel]

Originally Posted by murmur13

I am currently working on an update to the Nippon Professional Baseball historical database (in Lahman format) that can be imported into OOTP for play use. I've tested it, and the following changes have been added:

• Full statistics for the 2007 season

• Updated franchise information, making franchise moves and expansion/contraction possible

• A separate database with MLB equivalencies for NPB players based on historical era (new!), making for more realistic statistics when playing concurrent historical MLB and NPB seasons

• Accurate and working importing of award winners and hall of famers

This is in addition to the features from last year's version of the database, which is a detailed Lahman database for Japanese baseball with every NPB player, complete batting and pitching statistics for the majority of players, fielding statistics from 1990-now and for select earlier players, all stars, award winners, hall of famers, team history, franchise history, etc.

I would release it now, but the database has the following flaws, which were in last year's version:

• Missing secondary batting stats (doubles, triples, caught stealing) for some players from the 30s to the 80s

• Missing fielding position information for some players from the 30s to the 80s

• Lots of missing fielding statistics from the 30s to the 80s (current workaround: fake stats based on an average NPB player)

The last issue won't be fixable for now, as fielding statistics before the 80s are extremely difficult to find.

However, the Data Warehouse at Japan Baseball Daily has been updated since I last posted this database, and currently contains nearly all of the missing batting statistics and positional information for nearly every player that has played in NPB. This is great, except that it is not in database/spreadsheet format. Instead it is a bunch of tables on separate web pages on the site. I would love to add this information, but it would probably take months to enter it all manually into the NPB Lahman database myself.

Fortunately, it looks like the data at Japan Baseball Daily is in a pretty standard format, and could be pulled from the site into a spreadsheet/database using a script. Unfortunately, I don't have the expertise to do this. However, if there is anyone that does and is willing to help, please let me know. I would love to have a more complete version of the database available for historical players. If you can help with this project, or if you are aware of a newer NPB database that has this information, please PM me.

How about this ????

[blackrussian]

Originally Posted by murmur13

As for limiting interleague trades, I don't know. I just set interleague trades as off in doing an MLB/NPB sim. As for new players appearing, every new player will appear in the league that they debuted (I think).

the other problem is personnel. ive long wanted to have a MLB/NPB setup but there ends up so much movement b/w staff, it sorta ruins the more realistic aspect for me, ie within 2-3 yrs anywhere from 5-7 MLB teams have japanese GM's and managers.

you can limit player movement well enough (it entails not allowing NPB free agents to move to other leagues) but you still have to make concessions for the posting system. that's a unique enough part of NPB where you cant really sim that outside of having something built into the game or doing it manually.

[blackrussian]

and btw, fielding data especially for older seasons is near impossible to find. ive gone so far as to buy the japanese baseball encyclopedia, and that doesnt have fielding data. its a bit easier for some of the more recent seasons, but for historical purposes youre gonna be out of luck.