Good God..... Roster related

[hydrostar]

Get to feeling better. Us patient types have plenty to do with the game before you release those rosters.

Personal health clearly trumps stressing about appeasing whiners who feel they are somehow "owed" something.

[APujols5]

Originally Posted by cja1214

I live near the D and Wrestlemania was pretty awesome...so was the bar the night before

Yea we mostly hung out at Hockeytown...

[Stu]

I'm confused... You're starting over from scratch? Or you're selling Erich's roster set?

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by APujols5

No not really, the key was/is finding some motivation. When I first started this, my motivation was make a roster set I wanted to play with. Then I fell in love with fictional stuff. Then my motivation was just to create something. Then the whiners and complainers ruined that. So the only motivation left is personal gain

And to let everyone know, I have been released from the hospital this morning, I am on Doc ordered bed rest through the weekend. The worst was that my wife and daughters saw me collapse at work.

Believe me, I'm nto deriding you for this (like Sandman) I shoulda put the wink in there! There! that's better.

[APujols5]

I would be taking only the work I've done...

[APujols5]

Originally Posted by silvam14

Believe me, I'm nto deriding you for this (like Sandman) I shoulda put the wink in there! There! that's better.

I dont really expect anyone will take me up on this, it was more of a dare to the ones that just "can't live without" real rosters to put up or shutup

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by SandMan

What!!!!! You don't charge for those uniform creations!!!! Damn, I made my own because I thought I could not afford the ones you make!!!!!

Damn I am truly angry about this post - I am sorry to come off like this but my blood pressure shot up and I could feel my blood boiling when I read this complete post.

No, I would never think of charging for my mods, I guess that's not what I need for motivation. I get joy out of doing what I do.

I don't have a problem with him soliciting moulah for his work. That's his perogative. If people want it bad enough, they'll pay.

I can see where you might be floored by this development, but payware is not a new concept in this world, although it is to this game. Ever play flight simulator? They have big time payware planes and such you can download.

Relax, someone will be out with a roster set soon, and when that does happen, you probably won't even giv threads like this a second thought.

.....phew! thank god I am a fictional player!

[teak88]

Let's see how the world works...

I ask my neighbor if "I can borrow his 40' ladder on Saturday morning so I can trim some trees"; he says "Sure; I won't be home, but will leave it out by the garage"; First thing Saturday, no ladder. I see him Sunday evening and he says "Sorry, I had to go on a business trip... but will leave it, for sure, next Saturday; just outside the garage"

Next Saturday, I get up early to get those trees trimmed and... no ladder.

When I see my neighbor again on Sunday, he says "Sorry, but the ladder is actually Earl's. I need to get it back to him and I'm sure he will let you borrow it next Saturday". Weeks go by, but my neighbor doesn't return the ladder, doesn't return my calls, and my trees are going wild.

I'm a little miffed - and mention my miffness at a neighborhood BBQ... and get my bones jumped by some other neigbors: "You should be more respectful of ladder owners", You don't know how hard it is to maintain a ladder", "Your neighbor has family problems - and all you care about is your darn trees", "Didn't you know he is in the hospital?"... "Over a ladder?"... "Oh, you are so insensitive?"

In the meantime, no one can find Earl, the ladder, or anyone else with a ladder. And those ever-so-tolerant BBQ neighbors are telling me "shut up... there are more important things than ladders (true)... and go out and buy your own ladder"

Then, out of the blue, my neighbor turns up, says his feelings are hurt - "the joy of ladder loaning is gone... forever!" - but offers to rent me the (Earl's) ladder.

I'm sorry, but there is a name for neighbors like this

[hydrostar]

Why are you incapable of getting your own ladder? Would it take you too much effort? Why does anyone owe you a ladder to begin with?

[APujols5]

Originally Posted by teak88

Let's see how the world works...

I ask my neighbor if "I can borrow his 40' ladder on Saturday morning so I can trim some trees"; he says "Sure; I won't be home, but will leave it out by the garage"; First thing Saturday, no ladder. I see him Sunday evening and he says "Sorry, I had to go on a business trip... but will leave it, for sure, next Saturday; just outside the garage"

Next Saturday, I get up early to get those trees trimmed and... no ladder.

When I see my neighbor again on Sunday, he says "Sorry, but the ladder is actually Earl's. I need to get it back to him and I'm sure he will let you borrow it next Saturday". Weeks go by, but my neighbor doesn't return the ladder, doesn't return my calls, and my trees are going wild.

I'm a little miffed - and mention my miffness at a neighborhood BBQ... and get my bones jumped by some other neigbors: "You should be more respectful of ladder owners", You don't know how hard it is to maintain a ladder", "Your neighbor has family problems - and all you care about is your darn trees", "Didn't you know he is in the hospital?"... "Over a ladder?"... "Oh, you are so insensitive?"

In the meantime, no one can find Earl, the ladder, or anyone else with a ladder. And those ever-so-tolerant BBQ neighbors are telling me "shut up... there are more important things than ladders (true)... and go out and buy your own ladder"

Then, out of the blue, my neighbor turns up, says his feelings are hurt - "the joy of ladder loaning is gone... forever!" - but offers to rent me the (Earl's) ladder.

I'm sorry, but there is a name for neighbors like this

luckily noone says if there is a release, that you have to use it....

[lgkeeper]

Originally Posted by APujols5

I tried it that way and was burned at the stake!
So like I said it's about finding some motivation now.

The people who burned you at the stake were those who are new to the site - young kids without any respect or jerks w/ nothing better to do. The rest of us are excited about your work and passionate about the same thing you are: this silly game.

I'm glad your priorities are straight and even more glad to hear that you're feeling better. But my advice is to not take what the handful of people say as your motivation and instead take the horde (sp?) of people who - again - care about you and respect your work.

Just my 2 cents, please take it for what it's worth.

[mattkma]

I am just curious why this thread has not been locked and closed yet?

[terptime13]

I'm happy to see you are getting back to being healthy AP. No matter what anyone thinks of you health is important and it is nice to see you back together in some way, shape or form.

Besides that. This is very humorous to read. It very much brings me laughter day in and day out. This board has become madness. I dearly remember the OOTP2 days when everyone was friends.

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by APujols5

luckily noone says if there is a release, that you have to use it....

I think you've stated your intentions pretty strightforward in your first post. I think if you try to respond to every person who disagrees with you, your not going to come out smelling like roses.

Maybe you don't care, but just some free advice.

[USN Squid]

AP, I was one of your most vocal defenders this whole time.

No more.

I'm with Sandman on this one.

On top of that, if what I hear is true (that you were one of the most vocal critics of Cubby last year), then I'm truly flabbergasted.

[cja1214]

Enough of this...we got some people being obnoxious and others kissing up to you...

upload the rosters and open up a paypal account for donations. Use the donations for iTunes or whatever

or

just don't upload them

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by terptime13

I'm happy to see you are getting back to being healthy AP. No matter what anyone thinks of you health is important and it is nice to see you back together in some way, shape or form.

Besides that. This is very humorous to read. It very much brings me laughter day in and day out. This board has become madness. I dearly remember the OOTP2 days when everyone was friends.

The fictional crowd is much more sane I can assure you!

At least for this version they are!

[teak88]

... but my neighbor was kind enough to offer to loan me his, thus saving me the time and expense of buying my own, especially when he claims to get joy from having a ladder and I do not.

The moral of the story is... when you agree to do a kindness for a neighbor, then follow through with it. If things get in the way, pick up the phone and say I can't do it now or I'll do it next week or whatever. But when you jerk people around, you're not a nice neighbor

[afail]

Originally Posted by APujols5

luckily noone says if there is a release, that you have to use it....

I think what is terrible about this is that many other peoppe (including myself) would have been happy to do this for FREE! I have not said one bad word about the delays because life does in fact get in the way, nor have I ever condoned the negative comments toward anyone on this forum.

I honestly feel the worst for Markus and the company. Although they can't say it freely, many people won't buy this game without a roster set available for download. SI isn't Microsoft, they need money to continue to develop this game, that's reality.

I hope you get your gift cards for iTunes APujols, and everytime you play your MP3's you remember that your decision has hurt OOTP. Your decision has hurt many others, albeit strangers, who look forward to living out their dream to GM their favorite team.

If you don't want to finish the rosters, fine, at least release them as is. You shouldn't need any motivation to do that, unless your truely a bad person and I really don't wish to believe you are.

[APujols5]

For the love of God people....

This entire thread was a joke as to call out the whiners and complainers that will die if they cant play with real rosters and assume they are just entitled to demand roster sets.

As I've said, I have zero motivation to work on rosters, I am only concentrating on the fictional aspects of this game from now on.