Beta version of 1871 quickstart

Halo Fan · 04-06-2007, 02:16 AM

Real players, real teams, real schedules, real player photos.

I did a test run and it looks to be stable. I didn't edit the players' ratings and some of them seem a little off, but nothing too crazy. (Remember too that the small sample size of 1871 lends itself to odd results.)

In order to make this work going forward past 1871, there are a few things you'll need:

1. A version of the Lahman database with all the NAs, AAs, UAs, PLs and FLs changed to "NL." (Find and replace is your friend.)
2. The game engine files edited. I used a 55 for double plays, a 600 for fielding errors and a 1047 for passed balls. This seems to work pretty well.
3. A willingness to work with the league totals unless someone figures out how to make them autoupdate for the 19th century. I've worked with league totals a lot over the years and assuming things work the same with this version I may be able to give a little guidance in this area.
4. The patience to find your own schedules and such if you want real teams and schedules. (I'll be glad to send along anything I've got, but I sim rather slowly and it'll probably take me a few weeks to get to 1872.)

You definitely have to have some patience and willingness to tinker with things to use this quickstart, but for those who want to replay from the real beginning of professional baseball this may help get you started. The file is about 5 meg zipped; I will gladly send it along to anyone who wants it. Just PM me if you're interested.

Also note that this is a beta version: I've test-simmed it a couple of times but there may be some issues. Feel free to let me know what you find and I'll see what I can do.

Syd Thrift · 04-06-2007, 11:32 PM

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Halo Fan · 04-08-2007, 08:45 AM

One good point that was raised: I've already put a 6.000 modifier for fielding errors in the quickstart, so don't edit the engine to add another 6.000 for 1871. If you do you'll end up with 36 times as many errors as in the modern era, which is too many even for 1871.

magnet · 04-08-2007, 03:05 PM

I just (foolishly) started a league after joining 3, so I will probably be postponing my own solo historical work, but when I get to it, I will starting here! Thanks...Halo Fan

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Halo Fan · 04-08-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by magnet

I just (foolishly) started a league after joining 3, so I will probably be postponing my own solo historical work, but when I get to it, I will starting here! Thanks...Halo Fan

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Make sure you use the league totals I posted over at the OTBL board. My results with that have been a definite improvement.

magnet · 04-08-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo Fan

Make sure you use the league totals I posted over at the OTBL board. My results with that have been a definite improvement.

I definitely will. I'm glad I won't spend a month tweaking the modifiers now!

Arlie Latham · 04-04-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo Fan

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In order to make this work going forward past 1871, there are a few things you'll need:

1. A version of the Lahman database with all the NAs, AAs, UAs, PLs and FLs changed to "NL." (Find and replace is your friend.)

Does Anyone have a Lahman database with this?

NCBeachBum · 04-05-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlie Latham

Does Anyone have a Lahman database with this?

You can make it yourself, man.

Open the Lahman files used by OOTP in notepad(I can't remember exactly which ones it is, as I haven't done this in a while, but if you search you can find it. I know you'll need to fo the batting, pitching, and firlding files.).

On the edit menu, hit replace. You'll see "Find what:" and "Replace with:".

Find what: ,"NA",
Replace with: ,"NL",

Then hit replace all. Then change the NA to UA, leaving the quotation marks and commas and hit replace all again, then do the same in turn for AA, PL, and FL.

Changing all five on each file that matters took me about five or six minutes when I did it.

Kelric · 04-20-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NCBeachBum

You can make it yourself, man.

Open the Lahman files used by OOTP in notepad(I can't remember exactly which ones it is, as I haven't done this in a while, but if you search you can find it. I know you'll need to fo the batting, pitching, and firlding files.).

On the edit menu, hit replace. You'll see "Find what:" and "Replace with:".

Find what: ,"NA",
Replace with: ,"NL",

Then hit replace all. Then change the NA to UA, leaving the quotation marks and commas and hit replace all again, then do the same in turn for AA, PL, and FL.

Changing all five on each file that matters took me about five or six minutes when I did it.

Unfortunately for me, OpenOffice cuts off the number of rows and I can't get in there to edit everybody.

NCBeachBum · 04-21-2008, 03:04 AM

Missed the part where I said to open it with notepad, eh, bud?

Kelric · 04-21-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCBeachBum

Missed the part where I said to open it with notepad, eh, bud?

Hey, I never said I could read.

04-06-2007, 02:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
Halo Fan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California Posts: 71	Beta version of 1871 quickstart Real players, real teams, real schedules, real player photos. I did a test run and it looks to be stable. I didn't edit the players' ratings and some of them seem a little off, but nothing too crazy. (Remember too that the small sample size of 1871 lends itself to odd results.) In order to make this work going forward past 1871, there are a few things you'll need: 1. A version of the Lahman database with all the NAs, AAs, UAs, PLs and FLs changed to "NL." (Find and replace is your friend.) 2. The game engine files edited. I used a 55 for double plays, a 600 for fielding errors and a 1047 for passed balls. This seems to work pretty well. 3. A willingness to work with the league totals unless someone figures out how to make them autoupdate for the 19th century. I've worked with league totals a lot over the years and assuming things work the same with this version I may be able to give a little guidance in this area. 4. The patience to find your own schedules and such if you want real teams and schedules. (I'll be glad to send along anything I've got, but I sim rather slowly and it'll probably take me a few weeks to get to 1872.) You definitely have to have some patience and willingness to tinker with things to use this quickstart, but for those who want to replay from the real beginning of professional baseball this may help get you started. The file is about 5 meg zipped; I will gladly send it along to anyone who wants it. Just PM me if you're interested. Also note that this is a beta version: I've test-simmed it a couple of times but there may be some issues. Feel free to let me know what you find and I'll see what I can do.

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04-08-2007, 08:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
Halo Fan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California Posts: 71	One good point that was raised: I've already put a 6.000 modifier for fielding errors in the quickstart, so don't edit the engine to add another 6.000 for 1871. If you do you'll end up with 36 times as many errors as in the modern era, which is too many even for 1871.