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Old 01-18-2018, 10:32 PM   #421
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The 1962 Hall of Fame Class:

Mark McGwire, 1B

Another easy choice, "Big Mac" hit .263/.370/.485/.854 (141 OPS+, 142 wRC+) with 1,488 R, 2,496 H, 322 2B, 585 HR, 1,650 RBI, 1,609 BB, and 2,154 K. Pretty good control of the strike zone K/BB wise for a big slugger. He was a 9-time All-Star, with 1 MVP (1939), 5 Gold Gloves, 7 Silver Sluggers, 1 Championship (1953 with the Tigers), and the 1938 NLCS MVP Award. Everything's there except speed for this guy. Just 6 SB and 7 CS for his entire career. But that's not exactly what he was paid a total of $827,340 to do is it?
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Man Corey Kluber is a machine. August !2th and he's rolling at 17-4 with am ERA just above 2. Won 17 games last year as well, even with an injury that held him out close to a month.

I'm really enjoying the 12 team, no divisions setup. I currently have a neck and neck race for the top spot between Alexandria and Birmingham. Each week it seems the lead changes hands at least once. These teams are 9 games up on the rest of the league as of August 12th

The race for the 2nd wild card is just as heated with 4 to 5 teams in contention. Jackson is currently in the lead, but Shreveport, Mobile, Lake Charles Texarkana and Corpus Christi are all chomping at the bit. The rest of August and September should be exciting.

So love watching Alexandria games. The Aaron/DiMaggio part of the batting order is so fun to follow. Currently the 3-5 spots in Alexandria's batting order are Hank Aaron, Joe DiMaggio and Graig Nettles. Paul Konerko is in there as well. In fact Konerko is the Aces Home Run and RBI leader so far for the 63 season. DiMaggio is the clear cut favorite to win the batting title with a average in the .340's. Jim Rice is also a member of the Aces, but has his best days behind him. That being said, every once in a while, Rice will show flashes of his past greatness.

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Man Corey Kluber is a machine. August !2th and he's rolling at 17-4 with am ERA just above 2. Won 17 games last year as well, even with an injury that held him out close to a month.

I'm really enjoying the 12 team, no divisions setup. I currently have a neck and neck race for the top spot between Alexandria and Birmingham. Each week it seems the lead changes hands at least once. These teams are 9 games up on the rest of the league as of August 12th

The race for the 2nd wild card is just as heated with 4 to 5 teams in contention. Jackson is currently in the lead, but Shreveport, Mobile, Lake Charles Texarkana and Corpus Christi are all chomping at the bit. The rest of August and September should be exciting.

So love watching Alexandria games. The Aaron/DiMaggio part of the batting order is so fun to follow. Currently the 3-5 spots in Alexandria's batting order are Hank Aaron, Joe DiMaggio and Graig Nettles. Paul Konerko is in there as well. In fact Konerko is the Aces Home Run and RBI leader so far for the 63 season. DiMaggio is the clear cut favorite to win the batting title with a average in the .340's. Jim Rice is also a member of the Aces, but has his best days behind him. That being said, every once in a while, Rice will show flashes of his past greatness.
The Klu-bot is outstanding isn't he? He's in my HoF (Class of 1956).

Jee-hee-hee-hee-zus!!! That is one helluva lineup for Alexandria. Mr. Nettles went in to my HoF in 1960 after chewing up and spitting out pitchers for 24 seasons. Better than real life Nettles with the bat and every bit as good in the field (8 Gold Gloves).

Konerko's going into his 10th season. He's a Gold Glove calibre first baseman, but he keeps winding up on National League teams that shift him to either LF or 3B. In Philly, Cecil Fielder pushed him to 3B and/or LF, and while with the Cardinals, Willie Aikens has shifted him to 3B. The only two seasons in which he started the majority of his team's games at 1B (my minimum standard to qualify for the GG), he won the Gold Glove. You would think they'd want to make a trade to open up a spot for him at 1B, but nothing yet.

Still waiting on DiMaggio, Aaron, and Rice in this dynasty. Vince DiMaggio has been through, but that hardly counts. Vince was a 3-time All-Star with a Gold Glove, a Silver Slugger, and a Championship. I expect his brother Joe to have that and more by the time he's 25ish.

I will never have divisions in my leagues, even though I'm using the MLB setup. I have to manually set it up on the first day of every offseason, which is a bit tedious, but well worth it in my view. Nothing worse for me than 83-win teams in the postseason (or worse: below .500 teams), unless of course that's where the 2nd place team is at. I will make it four teams per subleague into the postseason when MLB expands to 28 teams in 1993 with the additions of Florida and Colorado.

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Top ten AL MVP for 1961:

1. Johnny Podres, 22, DET, LHSP
2. Jimmy Ryan, 26, KC1, SS/RF/LF
3. Johnny Mize, 23, CLE, DH
4. Harry Arundel, 22, KC1, RHSP
5. Walter Johnson, 27, BOS, RHSP
6. Brett Anderson, 21, CWS, LHSP
7. Max Lanier, 26, MIN, LHSP
8. Danny Salazar, 28, WS2, RHSP
9. Chino Smith, 24, KC1, 2B/RF/DH
10. Edgar Martinez, 29, BAL, 3B/DH

Top five AL CYA for 1961:

1. Johnny Podres, 22, DET, LHSP
2. Harry Arundel, 22, KC1, RHSP
3. Walter Johnson, 27, BOS, RHSP
4. Brett Anderson, 21, CWS, LHSP
5. Max Lanier, 26, MIN, LHSP

Top three AL Mariano Rivera Award for 1961:

1. Bob Shawkey, 36, NYY, RHRP
2. Clay Roe, 28, CLE, LHRP
3. Mike Cuellar, 25, NYY, LHRP

Top three AL Jackie Robinson Award for 1961:

1. Al Benton, 22, CLE, RHSP
2. J T Snow, 23, CWS, 1B/DH
3. Willie McCovey, 20 WS2, 1B

Very, very close regular season as detailed above. The Orioles met the Indians in the ALCS, after Cleveland crushed the Athletics' hopes with a 6-run ninth inning on the way to a 10-4 win behind Johnny Mize' 3 for 5 with 3 HR and 6 RBI game in Game #163. "The Big Cat" came up huge when his team needed him, and sealed the game with a grand slam in the ninth inning off Bill Campbell.

The Orioles came charging out of the gates in the ALCS, and looked like they would finally put their postseason misery behind them, winning 10-3, and 9-4 in the first two games at home. The series shifted to Cleveland (in more ways than one), where the Indians reeled off three straight wins over Baltimore. C Nate Peeples walked off the Orioles in Game 3 with a two-run HR off Oriole closer Steve Cishek before Cishek could retire a Cleveland hitter. The Indians then roughed up starter Steve Gromek for 4 runs in 4.1 IP in Game 4 to take it 4-2. The Orioles kicked the ball around in Game 5, committing four errors to hand Cleveland a 6-4 win. Once again, postseason failure was staring Baltimore in the face.

That's when they devised an infallible strategy: have closer Steve Cishek give up game tieing HRs in the ninth inning in back-to-back must win games. It worked. In Game 6, Ted Kluszewski clobbered one to tie the game at 8, but walks to SS Ray Morehart, and LF Red Massey, and a game-winning RBI single from 2B Bernie Allen allowed the O's to get up off the deck and win 9-8 in 10 innings. The next night, Johnny Mize did the honours, with a game-tieing solo HR to knot Game 7 at 2, but a 2B by RF Bob Powell, followed by a single by 3B Rocky Krsnich, and a (wait for it...) walk-off sacrifice fly to CF by C Aubrey Epps put the O's into the World Series, where they would face the St. Louis Cardinals, and fail to win...Yet again.

This is getting to be ri-goddamn-diculous for Orioles' fans. 1955: 1st place...Beat Red Sox in 7, lose to Cardinals in 5. 1956: 4th place. 1957: 1st place, lose to Indians in six. 1958: 1st place, lose to Yankees in 5. 1959: 1st place, lose to Senators in 7. 1960: 1st place, lose to Athletics in 7. Now, 1961: tied for 1st place (win tiebreaker to grab home field advantage throughout the playoffs), beat Indians in 7, lose to Cardinals in seven. And as we'll see in the NL Awards portion, that seventh game loss was oh so painful. How could a team be so good, and not grab the brass ring? It happens I guess. Translation: That's baseball.

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Top ten NL MVP for 1961:

1. Noodles Hahn, 20, LAD, LHSP
2. Ted Williams, 23, LAD, LF/RF
3. Toad Ramsey, 21, CIN, LHSP
4. Charlie J Ferguson, 24, STL, RHSP
5. Tris Speaker, 22, SFG, CF
6. Bill George, 22, CHC, LHSP
7. Sid Fernandez, 24, SFG, LHSP
8. Louis Santop, 20, CIN, C
9. Bullet Rogan, 30, PHI, RHSP
10. Jesse Burkett, 33, PHI, RF

Top five NL CYA for 1961:

1. Noodles Hahn, 20, LAD, LHSP
2. Toad Ramsey, 21, CIN, LHSP
3. Charlie J Ferguson, 24, STL, RHSP
4. Jose Quintana, 30, PIT, LHSP
5. Sid Fernandez, 24, SFG, LHSP

Top three NL Mariano Rivera Award for 1961:

1. Robb Nen, 35, PIT, RHRP
2. Kendall Graveman, 26, CHC, RHRP
3. Donnie Moore, 28, STL, RHRP

Top three NL Jackie Robinson Award for 1961:

1. Henry Blanco, 20, ML1, C
2. Kojiro Machida, 18, SFG, 2B/3B
3. George Myers, 26, CHC, C

It was a very tight race in the NL as well. The Cardinals finished 94-68, while the Reds and Pirates finished tied at 86-76. The Reds were 15-9 against the Pirates during the regular season, so I gave them home field advantage for Game 163.

It was a very tight game to decide who would face the Cardinals, but in the end the Reds prevailed 2-1 on John J Anderson's 2 HR game (just his 13th and 14th HR of the season) off starter and loser Greg Swindell, and Toad Ramsey's four hit, 10 K pitching over 8 innings to sew up his 20th win of the season. Reggie Richter pitched a 1-2-3 ninth and struck out Dexter Fowler for the final out to nail it down for the Reds for his 36th save of the season.

The Reds rode that momentum to sweep the first two games in St. Louis, but eventually ran out of gas, and were curb stomped by the Cardinals over the final four games of the series by a combined score of 33-10. Cardinal 1B Willie Aikens hit .333/.429/.889/1.317 with 3 HR and 6 RBI in the series to claim MVP honours. For the first time since 1956, the Cardinals were off to the World Series for a rematch of the 1955 World Series with their feathered foes, the Baltimore Orioles. The Cardinals easily won the 1955 series against the O's, and they would win this one again, but it would not be an easy series this time.

Charlie J Ferguson and Andy Pettitte would be the starting pitchers for games 1, 4, and 7. Game 1 was not a classic by any means. The Cardinals scored all of their runs in the 7th inning off four different pitchers (Pettitte, Dennis Burns, Carlos C Maldonado, and Matt Harrison) in a 9-0 drubbing of the Orioles. That disastrous inning featured all nine runs on five hits and six walks. There were no errors to blame the sloppiness of the pitching on, just brutal pitching. The highlight of the inning was a 3-run HR by John Kane. Edgar Martinez absolutely exploded in Game 2 for the Orioles going 3 for 5 with 3 runs, a single, 2 HR, and 5 RBI to help lift his team to an 11-6 victory to even the series before it headed off to Missouri for games 3, 4 and 5. Every pitcher that pitched in Game 2 allowed a run. Not exactly the tight, defensive, pitching-dominated start you would expect from two teams that made it this far, but baseball's a funny game.

In Game 3, the Orioles raced out to a 6-0 lead after 5 and a half, and then hung in there for a 7-5 victory. Pitching and defense in October huh? Not so far. Game 4 gave the fans a classic pitchers duel between Pettitte and Ferguson, and would prove to be a foreshadowing of what was to come in Game 7. Pettitte went eight strong innings allowing one run, while Charlie J Ferguson pitched a complete game and allowed just one run. It would come down to Orioles closer Steve Cishek's work in the ninth inning. A one out error by 1B Mark Ellis to allow PH Tom York to reach first did not help things. PH Jim H Manning then doubled to left to move the winning run to third, and CF John Kane was walked intentionally. A flyball by SS Cass Michaels to shallow right got the Cardinal crowd on its feet, but ultimately it was not deep enough. 1B Paul Konerko sure got them back out of their seats with a game-winning single past the 1st baseman to walk off the O's and even up the series.

All the runs in Game 5 came home in the first inning as the O's scored one to start things off on the right foot, and the Cards roared back with four in the bottom of the inning. Both bullpens were tremendous (as you might expect, given no scoring after the first), but the Cardinal bullpen in particular was great as Dick Rusteck, John W Morris, Ed Hendricks and Donnie Moore combined to go the final 4.1 IP allowing just 1 hit, while striking out four. So the series returned to Baltimore with the Cards needing to win just one of the final two games.

The Cards got off to a flying start in Game Six as RF Jim King walloped a 2-run HR off Baltimore SP Steve Gromek. Baltimore would eventually respond in the sixth inning as their RF Bob Powell took Cardinal SP Mark Portugal deep for a 3-run shot and a 3-2 lead. Five relievers would blank the Cardinals the rest of the way for a 3-2 Oriole win to force a seventh and deciding game. Game 7 was every bit the classic that the RL Game 7 of the 1991 World Series was. Charlie J Ferguson and Andy Pettitte matched each other zero for zero all game long. Ferguson went 8.2 IP, giving up 1 hit, walking three, and striking out eight, while Pettitte put in 9.0 IP of 2-hit, 1 BB, 6 K pitching. This Game 7 would require more than nine innings. It wound up going thirteen in fact. Cards' LF Tom York led off the top of the thirteenth with a double. One out later, a groundball pushed him over to third base, and CF Jim H Manning would deliver the go ahead run with a single on a 2-1 pitch from Buddy Black. Suddenly, the Cards were three outs away from their 3rd World Championship, and 2nd of the past seven seasons. It would not come easy though (does anything in baseball?).

CF Ray Poole got things started with a single to LF and advanced to second on an error by Cards' LF Tom York. RF Pinky Swander flied out to CF, and it was not deep enough to advance Poole. 3B Rocky Krsnich drew an eight pitch walk, and both Poole and Krsnich advanced a base on a single between third and short by C Aubrey Epps. Bases loaded, one out. Cards' closer Donnie Moore long since out of the game. RP Ed Hendricks in his third inning of work would have to get things done. He got 1B Mark Ellis to hit into a fielder's choice, as SS Sonny Jackson gunned down Poole at the plate. Krsnich and Epps advanced to third and second respectively. It all came down to SS Ray Morehart, who flied out to CF Jim H Manning on the first pitch he saw. Orioles fans must have no hair left by now. Six of the past seven years, their team has advanced to the postseason, losing four times in the NLCS and twice in the World Series. It's nice to have a team that's in the postseason year after year, but it's nicer to win once in a while.
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February 6th, 1962: RF Chino Smith signs with the Boston Red Sox for a whopping $1,311,600 over four years. That's an AAV of $327,900. These owners have hit the crazy sauce! He'll also be back out on the free agent market at age 28. Wow!
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Here's the two-part boxscore for the first ever game for both the Colt .45's and the Mets, and the first ever win for the Colt .45's:
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...And it took a little while, but here's the two part boxscore from the Mets' first ever win. It was a doozy as they won 11-10 in 12 innings:
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Ugh, more hard times for Mr. Verlander. 13 starts into 1964 Justin tears the Labrum in his shoulder, out for 4 months. Justin was limited to 18 starts in 62 with an injury that carried over into 63 allowing him to only start 26 games. Now this. He's 32, so the injuries could mean the decline kicks in big time. 146-108, 3.01 on his career.
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Man this 5 year wait for the Hall of Fame is killing me. I just don't have the patience I used 3 years in the past.
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Patience grasshopper.
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I hear ya, but I'm a Captain fan. Shreveport just beat the Texarkana Grasshoppers in the 1964 Wild Card series in route to their 4 World Series title. They are now tied with Birmingham for most rings.
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Ouch! May of 65 and Kluber goes down for 9 months with a torn flexor tendon. 276 career starts, 140 wins 90 losses, 3.01.

Meanwhile, Verlander is scuffling, 2-3 5.01. He's also suffering from back stiffness. He's moved all the way down do 4th in the less than stellar Biloxi pitching staff

At the age of 35 Duke Snider is no longer in his teams starting lineup on a regular basis. So far this season he's played in 11 games for the Texarkana Grasshoppers, starting 3 of them. Duke has a career average pf .300 and is the career leader in home runs with 434.

I'm watching Carl Hubbell to see if the meal ticket can become the second Southern League Pitcher to reach 200 wins. Right now he has 192. He's 37 years old and sitting number 2 in the Alexandria Aces rotation.


Yasiel Puig retired following the 1964 season. Puig played 18 seasons, coming in as part of the inaugural draft at the age of 22. .305/.388/.507 298 home runs, 1331 RBI. Yasiel had 2398 hits and scored 1340 runs. He also had 414 doubles and 142 triples. His final WAR was 61.3. 6 times Puig was a Silver Slugger winner at his position. He won one championship as a member of the 1959 Jackson Browns. I have no doubts after the 5 years are up, Yasiel will be entering the Hall of Fame

John Briggs also called it quits after 17 seasons in the bigs. .262/.373/.433. John scored 1022 runs, hit 245 home runs and drove in 1059 runs. Final WAR 39. Briggs won one championship with the 1960 Beaumont Crush.

Another player to retire after the 64 season is Clete Boyer. 17 seasons, .245/.298/.385, 165 home runs, 648 RBI. 26.3 WAR. Clete won one Gold Glove and one ring as a member of the 1956 Texarkana Grasshoppers.

Andrew Miller also called it a career following 1964. 15 seasons. 77 wins, 60 losses and 149 saves. 3.03 career ERA. 886 k's, 577 BB 1.30 WHIP and 13.5 WAR. Miller was reserve roster attendee for the 1947 World Champion Baton Rouge Artillery and an active member of the 1958 Mobile Hustlers when they won it all. Miller was drafted in 1947 by the Texarkana Grasshoppers. He was then traded to Jackson on 04/15/1947, only to have Jackson trade him less than a month later to Baton Rouge. A year later in April Baton Rouge shipped him off to Mobile. Miller would be traded 2 more times in his much travelled career.
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Well, he just did it. The Meal Ticket, Carl Hubbell just notched victory number 200, joining Clayton Kershaw in the 200 win club.
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Have you got 162 game schedules in your league or are they shorter? Sorry if I've asked before, but if I have, I've forgotten.
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154. 12 teams, every team plays each other 14 times.
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The 1962 season is in the books (except for the playoffs). Here are the final standings, the final batting stats, and the final pitching stats:
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Do you make your own schedule or is the one you use inside the provided schedules. I am asking because I am starting a new random debut with a reserve roster and an unaffiliated Indy league. Starting with 8 teams in the Indy with free agents from MLB and want to expand when the number of free agents gets too high. It is a takeoff on Tiger Fanís setup with no real minor leagues.
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Do you make your own schedule or is the one you use inside the provided schedules. I am asking because I am starting a new random debut with a reserve roster and an unaffiliated Indy league. Starting with 8 teams in the Indy with free agents from MLB and want to expand when the number of free agents gets too high. It is a takeoff on Tiger Fanís setup with no real minor leagues.
It's one of the OOTP schedules that comes with the game. 1 subleague, 12 teams, no divisions. 154 game schedule. Every team plays each other team 14 times. I allow 3 teams into my post season. The team with the best record gets a bye., The second and third place teams play a best of seven to earn the honor of facing the 1st place team in the World Series.
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