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Old 11-24-2017, 06:17 AM   #1
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National Anthem

Way down on the priority list of new features.

It would be nice to hear the national anthem and simulation of ceremonies such as the first pitch (announcer, then applause) before the first pitch is thrown. Maybe even while I am in the starting lineup screen.
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Old 12-03-2017, 01:29 PM   #2
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I agree.. that would be a nice little touch to the game.. an option you could select for a league.
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Old 12-04-2017, 12:11 AM   #3
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Way down on the priority list of new features.

It would be nice to hear the national anthem and simulation of ceremonies such as the first pitch (announcer, then applause) before the first pitch is thrown. Maybe even while I am in the starting lineup screen.
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As long as you stand correctly every time you hear it in-game. No short cuts.
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As long as you stand correctly every time you hear it in-game. No short cuts.
High Heat had the Anthem and yes I stood. Yes I looked weird doing it but thats who I am and thats what I do.
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I like the anthem / ceremonies idea as well. Make you feel even more like you are there at your game!
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:22 PM   #7
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Even better: the option to add an AAC file to be the song that you open the game with. Imagine playing "Hotline Bling" before games.
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No Kneelers!
Its a shame you decided to bring this up, but since you have...

If you want REALISM then:

1) The anthem feature would be disabled for the MANY decades when the anthem was not played prior to games,

2) There would be occasional protests (players and fans) in recent times.

A little research into how the playing of the anthem happened is informative. Beware of tradition, as in the following.

A little girl is watching her mother cook a ham. The mother cuts the ham in half, rotates each piece 90 degrees and puts them in the pan. The girl asks why. The answer is I don't know, my mother did it that way.

So they ask the grandmother, She doesn't know, her mother did it that way.

So they find the great grandmother who says "I don't know why they do it. I did it because when I first got married I didn't have a pan long enough for a ham."
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Its a shame you decided to bring this up, but since you have...

If you want REALISM then:

1) The anthem feature would be disabled for the MANY decades when the anthem was not played prior to games,

2) There would be occasional protests (players and fans) in recent times.

A little research into how the playing of the anthem happened is informative. Beware of tradition, as in the following.

A little girl is watching her mother cook a ham. The mother cuts the ham in half, rotates each piece 90 degrees and puts them in the pan. The girl asks why. The answer is I don't know, my mother did it that way.

So they ask the grandmother, She doesn't know, her mother did it that way.

So they find the great grandmother who says "I don't know why they do it. I did it because when I first got married I didn't have a pan long enough for a ham."
Your analogy makes no sense.
1st time it was played before a baseball game was 1862.
Then not for awhile until the World Series of 1918. Then before every game after that. Disabling it would be an option just as having awards and playoffs and many other things already are. Protests could be a storyline.
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And why did they start playing it? So people would feel better about having fun during wartime.

It has nothing to do with baseball. The teams don't represent the country. Its not the Olympics.

And so now people have forgotten why it started. Just like my story about the ham.
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And why did they start playing it? So people would feel better about having fun during wartime.

It has nothing to do with baseball. The teams don't represent the country. Its not the Olympics.

And so now people have forgotten why it started. Just like my story about the ham.
So people would feel patriotic about being at war. Fun yeah ok. National anthem wasnt played at the Olympics until 1924, Can't find out whose. Baseball started the tradition of playing it before games. You may have forgotten or dont care, not everyone has.
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Tradition is the reason people use for doing something when they don't have a reason to do it anymore.

Anyway, this feature doesn't need to happen. Just play a rendition of it from YouTube or Spotify or iTunes. If we did add an anthem feature in the game, it would have to have every countries anthem, and that would be a drag for the developers, IMO. Meanwhile, Seven Nation Army, Boyz In Tha Hood, and Girls Just Wanna Have Fun are the anthems I have in rotation in replacement of the Star Spangled Banner.
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So people would feel patriotic about being at war. Fun yeah ok. National anthem wasnt played at the Olympics until 1924, Can't find out whose. Baseball started the tradition of playing it before games. You may have forgotten or dont care, not everyone has.
(Bold added.)

And the last time the majority felt good about a war beginning to end was 1941 to 1945. So your reason for playing it is obsolete.

In the situation since then, your reason becomes not celebration of an agreement of the public but rather an attempt by the minority in power to influence the politics of the majority at an event that is supposed to be fun. Under these circumstances the anthem doesn't belong at sporting events.

Really a shame this discussion went this way due to the "no kneelers" comment which is (refer to the paragraph above) an attempt to get the game developers (those in power) to influence politics in a situation where we are supposed to be having fun.

And for anyone who was offended by the comparison with a piece of ham, well, I'm sorry, but really, pledging allegiance to an inanimate piece of cloth? And when its worn out having what is essentially a funeral for it? (Check flag etiquette for a full explanation.)

Flag/anthem protests are effective at irritating people who assign more meaning to the object/event than is realistic, those who assign it more value than symbolism.
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Tradition is the reason people use for doing something when they don't have a reason to do it anymore.

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(Bold added.)

And for anyone who was offended by the comparison with a piece of ham, well, I'm sorry, but really, pledging allegiance to an inanimate piece of cloth? And when its worn out having what is essentially a funeral for it? (Check flag etiquette for a full explanation.)


I don't think anyone was "offended" by your analogy, just as no one was actually offended about the starbucks holiday cup "controversy". Now you're just manufacturing a controversy. by the way, no one pledges allegiance to an inanimate piece of cloth. It's pledging allegiance to what the flag represents, the country. before your next response devolves into your views about the country, I could care less.


Back on topic, It would be nice to be able to add your own sound files and set parameters for when they'd played. Then you could do whatever you want
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Back on topic, It would be nice to be able to add your own sound files and set parameters for when they'd played. Then you could do whatever you want
This would be fun to do when OOTP finally reaches the ultimate baseball sim.
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Dola, this is most definitely getting moved to OT Debates at some point.
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Dola, this is most definitely getting moved to OT Debates at some point.
It shouldn't. it was a suggestion thread. i wasnt going to repond anymore to anti flag people. I left OTD, just want to focus on OOTP.
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It shouldn't. it was a suggestion thread. i wasnt going to repond anymore to anti flag people. I left OTD, just want to focus on OOTP.
The no kneeler comment was unnecessary then if you really wanted to be apolitical.
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