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Old 05-16-2019, 03:46 PM   #21
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To be fair, not all cards are created equal. 66 Luis Aparicio is arguably better than many Silver SS I am sure. And my 92 Aaron Nola is still disappointing me everyday. Also, I did say mention I only use it for foundation purpose. After 5-10 golds, I switch. I think they are useful in the very early stage of team building, hence "foundation" is the word I used multiple time. The gold pack value will diminish HARD after you have a solid team of gold/silver/few bronze.
That is all well and good, but the issues associated with low variance are why I believe that it cannot be a reliable means to acquire a foundation in the first place.
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That's a fair point. I guess going hard on the normal pack does provide the team with more flexibility. So, pros and cons for each.
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That's a fair point. I guess going hard on the normal pack does provide the team with more flexibility. So, pros and cons for each.
Absolutely. This is why it is called Perfect Team and not Perfect Approach
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I got about 10k this week but it's mainly from a tanker which I reported. Last I checked he was 3-72 in perfect with a bunch of the worst Iron pitching he could find.
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I don't think it should be easier. I also don't feel entitled so....
Alright then. You seem great.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:43 AM   #27
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I got about 10k this week but it's mainly from a tanker which I reported. Last I checked he was 3-72 in perfect with a bunch of the worst Iron pitching he could find.
I reported this guy too -- really surprised they haven't adjusted his roster and done something about him. He's got plenty of diamond players on his reserve roster
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Old 05-17-2019, 06:32 PM   #28
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I got 5,000 once for a perfect game. Man was I happy.
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Old 05-17-2019, 06:36 PM   #29
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In a vacuum, you are right but I think there are scenarios where gold packs are useful, sort of like how sac bunt can be useful in some situations or for a example from another sport, midrange jumper is not always a bad shot. Essentially, gold packs provide consistency over a short term or a lower amount of PP over normal pack.

If I am a P2P pack only team who can afford 100 normal packs right away. Then yeah, go for that.


For F2P, I think we have to look at things differently. I have 3 F2P pack-only teams in PT19 and I have done both gold-for-foundation and all-normal. My worst is a .450-.480 caliber team at bronze right now, I still do all-normal though cuz I don't care but I am quite positive I can get further with gold pack in this instance.



Here's how I look at it, 1 gold pack vs 5 normal pack, I am essentially trading 24/50(48% for a gold), 25/150(16.67% for a diamond), 25/1000(2.5% for a perfect) for a guaranteed gold. The % certainly sounds tempting and solid, but it can certainly whiff at times. My team only gets about 3-4K per season in most case. Now I have to factor if I want a guaranteed upgrade per season or if I don't mind to play the long game. If I want a guaranteed upgrade per season with almost no chance of whiffing, gold pack doesn't sound too bad. My team can benefit from almost all Gold as a low tier bronze team and be a better team next season or I could have a chance to all whiff on those packs and get a lot of low silver or bronze and be the same mediocre team next season. Of course, I could hit the jackpot and rise even further, but one keyword is consistency. If I am all for consistency in this scenario, gold pack doesn't sound so bad. 1 gold player per season doesn't seem that bad of a deal for a F2P pack-only team lacking any gold+ cards.

Considering the team above, gold pack and guaranteed upgrade also means that my income should theoretically increase with the gold player. I could be slowly raising to 4-5k, then maybe 4-6k and so on. My other teams who did well in bronze can get like 7K+ to 10K if lucky in a season. If I bank on pack and I whiff them, I have to factor in that my gambling on normal pack actually affect my future PP income rate as a F2P pack-only team. Gold pack not only provide me with consistency on roster upgrade, it also provide me with consistency on income, which gambling on normal pack will not. Never underestimate the snowball effect.

Also considering the team above, let's say I have average luck on the pack. Over 25 packs I get 2.4 gold, 0.8 diamond and 0.125 perfect. Let's say I get 2 gold and 1 diamond out of them VS 5 gold from gold pack. I am not so sure if the 2 gold + 1 diamond can provide more WAR to me than 5 golds in that period. If I have slightly bad luck and only get 2 gold, then that's 2 gold vs 5 gold producing for me over 5 seasons.

With all the consideration above, I don't think gold packs are are horrendous in any scenario, they have their value in a certain circumstance.

I built a solid foundation for my Bees using gold packs at the beginning. I've even pulled a few diamonds from them. Since then I've focused more on working the AH, but I've pulled enough garbage from regular packs to know gold packs ain't a bad thing.
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I reported this guy too -- really surprised they haven't adjusted his roster and done something about him. He's got plenty of diamond players on his reserve roster

LOL! So did I. It was very obvious what he was doing.
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