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Old 07-12-2019, 12:05 AM   #21
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Three bronzes, a Brian Jordan All-Star among them, but still not a perfect.
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Old 07-12-2019, 12:13 AM   #22
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I'm interested in your logic behind the conclusion that forcing one card to not be silver, gold, diamond, or perfect doesn't decrease the likelihood of opening a silver, gold, diamond, or perfect.
My logic on that would be that the chances of getting the other cards (including any extra bronzes) is stated for each pace. Therefore the odds are what they are even though you get one guaranteed bronze in a standard, gold in a gold, diamond in a diamond, for each pack the chance of getting the others among the other 5 cards are pre-determined so the guaranteed card has nothing to do with the odds of getting a silver, gold, diamond or perfect in the pack.
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Old 07-12-2019, 01:02 AM   #23
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the chances of an individual card being that rarity are fixed

if you have 6 cards that could be silver/gold/diamond/perfect instead of 5, you are more likely to get one

good lord people

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Old 07-12-2019, 01:34 AM   #24
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Good lord, if it is 1:150 cards & 1:1000 cards for a diamond and perfect respectively, then maybe you're right. I always used to buy packs where 1:150 meant 1 in every 150 packs, 1 in every 1000 packs. But still, you get a guaranteed (1:150) diamond in a 20,000 PP diamond pack. So buy diamond packs then. Obviously you think bronze cards are entirely worthless but somehow I don't see how the guarantee bronze really kills your chances or anything, why don't you just value the bronze/silver/diamond even non-precious metal cards you get …..then they could sell for more on the market, and you could get your PP back or almost back for another pack instead of the attitude that they are worthless which creates a sale price for them of 5-10 PP. Not to mention absurd PP prices for the perfects that are considered must-haves for a championship team.

But of course if it's cards and not packs? Then chances of a bronze are 1:5 anyway and you would basically get a guaranteed bronze in every pack...so at the very least my logic works as well...if it's packs then it's laid out what the chances are for.each.pack., and if it's cards, then the bronze shows up anyway, and at least it's a bronze and not something lower.
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But of course if it's cards and not packs? Then chances of a bronze are 1:5 anyway and you would basically get a guaranteed bronze in every pack...so at the very least my logic works as well...if it's packs then it's laid out what the chances are for.each.pack., and if it's cards, then the bronze shows up anyway, and at least it's a bronze and not something lower.

Here's my perspective. The thing about a guaranteed bronze is it doesn't provide me with a chance to luck out. I would be happy to roll the dice on the sixth guaranteed card even if it means I am potentially get an iron, for a shot to get more than a bronze.

I took the shot, I get an iron, no hard feeling. With the guaranteed bronze, I have no shot to take and I don't really care about a bronze card either. I prefer 6 shots over 5 shots + 1 bronze, personally. I don't see my feeling goes above +-0 between a 6 iron pack and a 5 iron + 1 bronze pack.

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Three bronzes, a Brian Jordan All-Star among them, but still not a perfect.
That Wang card might be worth something, though...
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If only it were the other Wang...
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If only it were the other Wang...
Silly me thought that Wang would also be part of the Taiwan collection…
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Seriously, he should be, just like how LIVE cards collection missions are constantly updated to match the database. Seeing that this Wang has been in the big league since early of the season, I am assuming he is not scarce now so his card would not be very valuable. If his card is only up since this week, I could see him fetching 500-1000 for a week or two.
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Good lord, if it is 1:150 cards & 1:1000 cards for a diamond and perfect respectively, then maybe you're right. I always used to buy packs where 1:150 meant 1 in every 150 packs, 1 in every 1000 packs. But still, you get a guaranteed (1:150) diamond in a 20,000 PP diamond pack. So buy diamond packs then. Obviously you think bronze cards are entirely worthless but somehow I don't see how the guarantee bronze really kills your chances or anything, why don't you just value the bronze/silver/diamond even non-precious metal cards you get …..then they could sell for more on the market, and you could get your PP back or almost back for another pack instead of the attitude that they are worthless which creates a sale price for them of 5-10 PP. Not to mention absurd PP prices for the perfects that are considered must-haves for a championship team.

But of course if it's cards and not packs? Then chances of a bronze are 1:5 anyway and you would basically get a guaranteed bronze in every pack...so at the very least my logic works as well...if it's packs then it's laid out what the chances are for.each.pack., and if it's cards, then the bronze shows up anyway, and at least it's a bronze and not something lower.

its cards not packs. devs have stated this many times.

also diamond pack are the worst bet of any of them. i received 6 diamond packs in the last week as rewards for finishing missions. in 5 of them i got a 90 rated LIVE that all had AAV of 4500 or less. immediate quicksell. if I had bought those packs, would have been a 15,880 PP loss per pack.
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That guy's post is just crazy rambling. You "can't see" how a guaranteed bronze kills your chances at anything? That is literally all it does because it means that sixth card cannot be better than bronze!

Do some math, most of the equity of a pack is in the chance of getting a premium card. At just quick-sell values a random card is worth around 80 points making a bronze card three times worse than a random card. Factor in how much above quicksell the actual playable cards go for and a guaranteed bronze is probably five times worse.

Everyone has known for a while that gold packs are horrendous value, diamond is similar since you need the one guaranteed card to make up the difference in cost.

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Yeah, for all other cards, but for diamonds in particular, diamond packs are a slightly (25% better) value.
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Actually a 56% better value...(than regular packs)
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In a nutshell, if you like diamonds, then what you dislike about a regular pack, is something to like about a diamond pack...the guaranteed card is a diamond.

I did the math, you have a point if you're a diamond/perfect hunter/obsesser but there's a whole lot going on beyond the odds I calculated.
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Or I could just buy a decent Diamond pitcher on the AH for 20k PP.

That's a guaranteed Diamond.
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Actually a 56% better value...(than regular packs)

you need to check your math. this is incorrect.
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Why don't you lay it out for me?
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Why don't you lay it out for me?

why dont you post how you come to that conclusion so i can show you exactly why you are wrong?


diamond packs are for suckers. if you cant see that on its face, dont know what to tell you.
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