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Old 11-13-2018, 02:26 PM   #281
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Thats not how baseball works though. OOTP is a very well made indepth sim. I would expect the schedule in perfect team to reflect that.

Its a minor complaint, I know.
Starting the season at the start of April is necessary though so you don't have any "overhang" in early October. This does not matter one bit in a normal OOTP game, but in PT would bring out the guys with the pitchforks again who are in arms because the season won't end until 2am on Sunday morning their time and they gotta micromanage the living **** out their cards until game #162.

Also, last time I checked you didn't get six players for a dollar, there was no promotion and relegation in the real life minor leagues, and Babe Ruth was long dead, so the "this is not how baseball works" argument does not really pull. Sometimes, a system has to make amends.
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Old 11-13-2018, 02:34 PM   #282
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Also, last time I checked you didn't get six players for a dollar, there was no promotion and relegation in the real life minor leagues, and Babe Ruth was long dead, so the "this is not how baseball works" argument does not really pull. Sometimes, a system has to make amends.
Now wait a minute. The schedule is not something that has to be sacrificed to make perfect team work. Your analogies of the babe and pro/rel don't fit.
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Old 11-13-2018, 02:40 PM   #283
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Now wait a minute. The schedule is not something that has to be sacrificed to make perfect team work. Your analogies of the babe and pro/rel don't fit.
Whoever makes bold claims like that gets to draw up the schedule for all seven days of the week April 1 can be immediately. Here is a pen and a paper. Have fun.
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Old 11-13-2018, 02:43 PM   #284
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Starting the season at the start of April is necessary though so you don't have any "overhang" in early October. This does not matter one bit in a normal OOTP game, but in PT would bring out the guys with the pitchforks again who are in arms because the season won't end until 2am on Sunday morning their time and they gotta micromanage the living **** out their cards until game #162.

Also, last time I checked you didn't get six players for a dollar, there was no promotion and relegation in the real life minor leagues, and Babe Ruth was long dead, so the "this is not how baseball works" argument does not really pull. Sometimes, a system has to make amends.
I'm not sure what any of this has to do with swapping up the days off throughout the season. No team has every Sunday off all season long. In fact no team has any Sunday off ever.

But I agree that this doesn't really matter. I'm just clarifying the minor issue.
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Old 11-13-2018, 02:45 PM   #285
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Whoever makes bold claims like that gets to draw up the schedule for all seven days of the week April 1 can be immediately. Here is a pen and a paper. Have fun.
There are things called computers that can do it. Why is having every Sunday off the only possible way to schedule a season? It's weird (and also not that important).
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Old 11-13-2018, 03:38 PM   #286
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There are things called computers that can do it. Why is having every Sunday off the only possible way to schedule a season? It's weird (and also not that important).
Have you ever, once, opened an OOTP schedule file? Do you understand how they work? If no, then just let it be. You can not just tell the schedule to make Mondays off days. Since the schedules PT uses are based off actual recent MLB schedules, which had off days mostly on Monday and Thursdays, and PT shifts the start date of the season around by necessity, it can not at the same time use the same schedule *and* have off days not on Sunday for example. At least one schedule per day of the week would have to be handcrafted to satisfy all those criteria.

But since that seems to be your main gripe with the game... there's pen, there's paper. Knock yourself out.
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While Westheim has a point (custom schedules are a nightmare, take it from me), it is also possible for OOTP to schedule a start date on a specific day of the week. It's an option in the league setup and it's actually included in most schedule files. So the idea that it's totally impossible in this game mode shouldn't be dismissed off-hand. Just start on a specific day of the week, and treat that as Game Day 1.

But (and this is a BIG 'but' here), I don't pretend to know how Perfect Team works behind the scenes. There could be - and there probably is - a very good reason, internally, why games need to start on a certain day of the month rather than a certain day of the week.

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Old 11-13-2018, 04:14 PM   #288
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The point is obviously to simulate a month in a real day. But if you start the season on weekday X you will start it anywhere from April 1 through 7, with the corresponding overhang in October, and then you run into scheduling extra games on Saturday night.

The other option would be to not simulate a month, but 182/6 = 30 to 31 days regardless of where the sim cycle begins and ends. Then the awards don't line up. That could be a smaller problem, but I have a counter-question:

What on bleeping earth does it matter whether the schedule has an off day on Sunday, Tuesday, or Thursdays? It sims a game every 30 minutes, no matter what day of the week it is. I am pretty serious as far as OCD is concerned, and that one does not irk me one bit ...
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Have you ever, once, opened an OOTP schedule file? Do you understand how they work? If no, then just let it be. You can not just tell the schedule to make Mondays off days. Since the schedules PT uses are based off actual recent MLB schedules, which had off days mostly on Monday and Thursdays, and PT shifts the start date of the season around by necessity, it can not at the same time use the same schedule *and* have off days not on Sunday for example. At least one schedule per day of the week would have to be handcrafted to satisfy all those criteria.

But since that seems to be your main gripe with the game... there's pen, there's paper. Knock yourself out.
I don't have a gripe, I was just clarifying the point. I don't really get why a computer game needs to have a manual schedule figured out with a pen and paper, when the game could just make it more realistic. I mean what team in baseball has ever had off 4 Mondays in a row? I find it hard to believe that it's based on a real schedule because I've never seen that. The main thing that every single season schedule has is that for teams with outdoor stadiums, they'll have a day off between games 1 & 2 so you can have a real home opener for people who bought tickets to the home opener in case of a rainout. And that doesn't exist from what I've seen so far in this game so I doubt the schedules are based on real schedules. But in any event, no teams ever have off four Mondays in April.

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What on bleeping earth does it matter whether the schedule has an off day on Sunday, Tuesday, or Thursdays? It sims a game every 30 minutes, no matter what day of the week it is. I am pretty serious as far as OCD is concerned, and that one does not irk me one bit ...
While I won't echo the tone, I'll echo the sentiment. You're playing 162 games a week regardless of when the off-days fall. I don't think this should be a big deal (and even those arguing for it have said as much).

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I don't have a gripe, I was just clarifying the point. I don't really get why a computer game needs to have a manual schedule figured out with a pen and paper, when the game could just make it more realistic.
There's a reason every major sport has actual humans figuring out the schedules every year, not a computer program. Having had to build a custom schedule for a 24-team league from the ground up, I can say with certainty that it's nowhere near as easy as you make it out to be. It's downright infuriating at times.

What you're seeing with the all-Sunday off days for that month is probably an MLB-style schedule where a team wound up with all Mondays off for a month, and it got shifted back a day due to not starting on the same day of the week as it did in real life.

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Is it safe to assume that every Hall of Fame MLBer is represented in PT?
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Is it safe to assume that every Hall of Fame MLBer is represented in PT?
No.

First, it depends on your definition of "Hall of Fame MLBer". I assume you only mean players. Even then, spontaneously I could not find a card f.e. for Tommy Lasorda, who is in the Hall as a manager, but was a fairly terrible pitcher in the 50s, too.

Edit: Actually, many more that I currently can't find in the auction house: Rod Carew, Bert Blyleven, Mel Ott, Jimmie Foxx, Red Ruffing all missing and I have not consciously seen them before. There is probably many more. I gotta go to bed now.
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I have Rod Carew in my lineup. I have seen Mel Ott. I haven't seen the others.
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Is it against the rules to create a new challenge mode login and start a new team to try out some different play styles?
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Is it against the rules to create a new challenge mode login and start a new team to try out some different play styles?
I don't see how it could be - they have disabled trading cards so you cant use one account to get good cards for a second.

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Is it against the rules to create a new challenge mode login and start a new team to try out some different play styles?
Markus has stated that you are allowed to have three different accounts. The feature is intended because families can share a license.
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Markus has stated that you are allowed to have three different accounts. The feature is intended because families can share a license.
I like the fact that you can have up to three logins but it is an open invitation to transferring stubs from 2 secondary accounts to a primary. But, since you can buy stubs anyway I am not sure how big of a deal that is.
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Thats not how baseball works though. OOTP is a very well made indepth sim. I would expect the schedule in perfect team to reflect that.

Its a minor complaint, I know.
How many teams are in your league? Usually the 2018 MLB schedule is used for 30 team leagues.
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No.

First, it depends on your definition of "Hall of Fame MLBer". I assume you only mean players. Even then, spontaneously I could not find a card f.e. for Tommy Lasorda, who is in the Hall as a manager, but was a fairly terrible pitcher in the 50s, too.

Edit: Actually, many more that I currently can't find in the auction house: Rod Carew, Bert Blyleven, Mel Ott, Jimmie Foxx, Red Ruffing all missing and I have not consciously seen them before. There is probably many more. I gotta go to bed now.
Every HOFer is definitely not in PT, but the majority should be. For example, of the guys you mention here, only Ruffing is not in PT.

Even Lasorda is actually in as a badly rated pitcher.
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