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Old 11-25-2004, 11:54 PM   #201
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Aurelio for the Title

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Old 11-26-2004, 03:08 PM   #202
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Heavyweight Rankings - End Of 1905

fighters (f) = 95, ranked (r) = 82, club (c) = 43

LBA
CH - Jack Johnson 20-1 (11), 9 TD, 10-0 in title bouts, been champ for 1184 days
1. Sam McVey 13-2 (5), no title bouts
2. Dominic McCaffrey 13-5-3 (4), 0-2 in title bouts
3. Tom Sharkey 18-6 (13), no title bouts
4. James Jeffries 23-2 (22), 0-1 in title bouts
5. Bob Armstrong 18-6-2 (7), 0-1 in title bouts
6-10. Sullivan, Elliot, Foley, Heenan, Dwyer

LBC
CH - Charley Mitchell 18-4 (11), 1-0 in title bouts, champ for 89 days
1. Dominic McCaffrey (see above)
2. Tom Allen 13-5 (11), 0-1 in title bouts
3. John L. Sullivan 19-4 (16), no title bouts
4. Larry Foley 13-4-2 (7), 0-1 in title bouts
5. John J. Dwyer 14-5-1 (6), 0-1 in title bouts
6-10. Armstrong, T. Burns, Burley, Kilrain, Grant

Former Champion #12 LBA, #15 LBC Peter Jackson 20-3 (11), 3-1 in title bouts, champ for 374 days

most wins - Jeffries 23
win % - Johnson 96.2%
stop % - Jeffries 88%
pp - Johnson 74.1
most fights - Armstrong, Malloy 26
consec. wins - Johnson 19
consec. stops - Jeffries 15

Notable Newbies (under 10 fights)
Jack Burns 9-0, Hank Griffin 8-1, William Schiller 7-1, Joe Goss 8-0-1, Bill Lang 8-1, Joe Jeannette 4-0

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Old 11-26-2004, 03:37 PM   #203
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Lightheavyweight Rankings End Of 1905

F = 35, R = 20, C = 16

LBA
CH - Joe Choynski 18-7 (13), 1-1 title bouts, champ for 80 days
1. Jack O' Brien 13-1-1 (5), 1-1 title bouts, champ for 93 days
2. Jack Root 20-6 (8), 8-2 title bouts, champ for 1094 days
3. George Gardner 12-5-1 (4), 0-1 title bouts
4. Leo Houck 7-5-1 (0), 1-1 title bouts, champ for 128 days
5. Mike McCoole 7-7 (0), No title bouts
6 - 10. Moir, Cardiff, F. Cooley, Heffey, Rentzler

most wins - Root 20
win % - O' Brien 86.7%
stop % - Choynski 52%
pp - O' Brien 40.2
most fights - Root 26
cons. wins - Root 15
cons. stops - Choynski 4

Newbies

Jack Graham 5-0
George Byers 4-0
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Old 11-26-2004, 03:51 PM   #204
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Middlweight ranking end of 1905

F = 43, R = 36, C = 18

LBA

CH - Bob Fitzsimmons 19-1 (16), 10 title defenses, 11-0 in title bouts, champ for 1401 days
1. Jack Dempsey NP 24-2 (14), 0-2 title bouts
2. Joe Butler 18-4-1 (11), 0-1-1 title bouts
3. Charles McCoy 15-5-2 (9), 0-1 title bouts
4. Jack Burke 16-6-3 (4), 0-1-1 in title bouts
5. Stanley Ketchel 11-2 (8), 0-1 in title bouts
6-10. Martin, Goff, Baker, LaBlanche, Craig

most wins - Dempsey 24
win % - Fitz 95 %
stop % - Fitz 80%
pp - Fitz 75.7
most fights - Donovan 27
cons. wins - Fitz 17
cons. stops - Fitz 8

Newbies

Charley Johnson 4-0-1
Frank Klaus 6-1-1
Jack Williams 4-0
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Old 11-26-2004, 05:16 PM   #205
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Welterweight ranking end of 1905

F = 29, R = 18, C = 9

LBA

CH - Tommy Ryan 23-0 (13), 8 title defenses, 9-0 title bouts, champ for 1106 days
1. Rube Ferns 15-6 (6), 0-2 title bouts
2. Dixie Kid 11-6-5 (3), 0-1 title bouts
3. Mike Sullivan 10-7-3 (3), no title bouts
4. Willie Lewis 9-8 (4), 0-1 title bouts
5. Jimmy Gardner 12-8-2 (3), 0-2 title bouts
6-10. Walcott, Mellody, Devine, B. Ryan, Duffy

most wins - Ryan 23
win % - Ryan 100%
stop % - Ryan 56.5%
pp - Ryan 88.7
most fights - Matthews 24
cons. wins - Ryan 23
cons. stops - Ryan 4

Newbies

Jack Britton 4-1
Kyle Whitney 4-0-1
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Old 11-26-2004, 07:26 PM   #206
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Lightweight rankings end of 1905

F = 35, R= 26, C=14

LBA

CH - Joe Gans 21-1-1 (8), 10 title defenses, 10-0-1 title bouts, champ for 1332 days
1. Billy Meyer 17-2-3 (11), 0-1 title bouts
2. Jack McAuliffe 19-3-1 (11), 0-1 title bouts (title bout was at welterweight)
3. George Lavigne 16-6-1 (11), 0-3 title bouts
4. Jem Carney 14-8 (8), 0-1 title bouts
5. Battling Nelson 11-10 (4), 0-1
6-10. Blackburn, Bowen, Donovan, Holly, Gilmore

most wins - Gans 20
win % - Gans 90.9%
stop % - Meyer 50%
PP - Gans 88.8
most fights - Edwards 25
cons. wins - McAuliffe 15
cons. stops - several tied at 3


Newbies

Frank Erne 5-0-1
Freddie Welsh 5-0
Eddie Connelly 5-0
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Old 11-26-2004, 07:42 PM   #207
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Featherweight rankings end 1905

F = 26, R = 16, C = 9

LBA

CH - Harry Lyons 18-8 (6), 2-1 title bouts, champ for 121 days
1. Abe Attell 21-5-1 (6), 6-2-1 title bouts, champ for 915 days
2. Young Griffo 19-4-2 (0!!!!), 0-3 title bouts
3. Aurelio Herrera 8-2 (1), no title bouts
4. Solly Smith 10-11-2 (6), no title bouts
5. Tommy Sullivan 6-7-1 (3), no title bouts
6 - 10. Driscoll, Forbes, Santry, Corbett, McCue

FC's #11 Jimmy Briggs 3-7-1 (1), 1-1 title bouts, champ for 77 days
#12 Billy Whistler 3-9-1 (1), 1-1 title bouts, champ for 166 days

most wins - Attell 21
win % - Herrera 80%
stop % - Driscoll 29.2%
pp - Griffo 50.7
most fights - Attell 27
cons. wins - Attell 9
cons. stop - Attell, Smith 3


Newbies

Kid Broad 3-1
Will Curley 4-0
Oscar Gardner 4-0
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Bantamweight rankings end of 1905

F = 29, R= 20, C = 11

LBA

CH - Billy Plimmer 14-5-4 (3), 1 title defense, 2-0 title bouts, champ for 184 days
1. Terry McGovern 18-4-1 (15), 5-2 title bouts, champ for 574
2. Casper Leon 9-8-4 (2), 0-1 title bouts
3. Owen Moran 15-3-1 (5), 3-1 title bouts, 390 days
4. Al Delmont 8-4-1 (2), no title bouts
5. George Dixon 16-5 (2), 0-2 title bouts
6-10. Neil, Wagner, Bowker, Kelly, Austin

most wins - McGovern 18
win % - O. Moran 78.9%
stop % - McGovern 65.2%
pp - McGovern 39.4
most fights - Bowker, C. Moran 27
cons wins - O. Moran 8
Cons. stops - McGovern 7

Newbies

Johnny Coulon 5-0
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Old 11-26-2004, 08:24 PM   #209
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Pound For Pound

Lower the points the better

1. Tommy Ryan 33
2. Jack Johnson 40
3. Bob Fitzsimmons 47
4. Joe Gans 57
5. Jack Dempsey NP 63 (highest non champ)
6. James Jeffries 68
7. Peter Jackson 73
8. Jim Flynn 82
9. Young Griffo 84
10. Charley Mitchell 85
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Old 11-27-2004, 09:32 AM   #210
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I don't know how you do it, man. Keeping all those guys straight in my head would make me crazy. Keep it up.
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I don't know how you do it, man. Keeping all those guys straight in my head would make me crazy. Keep it up.
Right now I have 307 fighters, not including ones I am adding for 1906. With only 7 weight classes it's not too bad, once I get more weight classes though I may need to hire an assistant!!!!
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Old 11-27-2004, 11:22 AM   #212
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i can be the Assistant :P

i enjoy reading this
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Old 11-27-2004, 11:43 AM   #213
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i can be the Assistant :P

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I've got a few guys who are post prime .... hopefully pretty soon guys will start retiring.
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Old 11-27-2004, 11:47 AM   #214
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Aurelio most need to go against Young Griffo the with then #01 ranked anff the next year he will be crown the LBA FEATHERWEIGHT CHAMPION
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Old 11-30-2004, 03:36 PM   #215
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Just curious if anyone has an opinion, but I thinking of throwing 5 fictional tomato cans into each club section (except for heavyweight) just so the new guys have some more crappy fighters to face. I like the idea of beginners hitting the main section with high win %.

I don't think it is something I would do every year just when there aren't enough 1 rated fighters in the club ranks. Everytime I schedule a newbie, I schedule them against the lost rated fighter they haven't fought. Sometimes that means a 3 rated newbie is fighting a 4 or higher rated guy.

This would be different then the guys I create, because most of the ones I am creating (while not based on any testing or informed opinion) are rated between 2-6.

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Old 12-01-2004, 04:46 AM   #216
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In my area that is similar to your Club Fighters group in my universe I have 10 fictional Tomato Cans (created using the TC Templates by Pierre) per twenty fighters in the group. It helps, particularly with the beginning fighters, as it helps grade out the careers of the fighters a bit more.

In my universe the fighters start out in a Beginners group who will fight the first bouts of their career against these fixtional TCs. Once they have more than 5 wins they have a percentage chance of "graduating" to the main group of fighters (% chance equals (Wins - 5) * 10).

So in short I think it would be a fine idea to through in fictional Tomato Cans into the mix. If your worried about the names, traul through Boxrec for the names of real punching bags of the day (scarily there really are lots of 0-3 boxers in the boxrec database).

Hope that rambling helps,
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Old 12-01-2004, 03:50 PM   #217
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Thanks Mark ... I was pretty sure I was doing it but your reassurance seals it. I have basically the same thing going on. They can move up to the main division when they finish the year pre-prime. They go pre-prime if the have 4 wins in 5 fights or after their 7th fight. If they end the year 4-0 they stay in club for another year.

They also have a higher % of fighting until they go prime. So some guys go to the main division with records of 8-0 or 9-0. Dumping some fictional tomato cans into the mix will help the 2 and 3 rated guys build up a record before getting stomped by the main division.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:58 PM   #218
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Okay I added 5 tc's to every weight class except Heavyweights ... thanks to the makers of the tc files on cornerwork ...

year 1906 ready to begin with a total of 365 fighters in my universe .... FW and BW are the only two divisions still with not enough fighters to split up the championships. So there will be 4 new LBC champions.
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Another year of this fantastic Universe

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January 1906

132 fighters in action. 3 new titles up for grabs.

LBF HW - McCaffrey vs Sullivan
LBC LHW - Gardner vs O' Brien
LBC MW - Burke vs. Butler (rematch of their Nov 05 draw)

no other title bouts
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