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Old 02-28-2018, 06:57 AM   #1
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Random Debut League - 1901 with 1986 historical year

First I want to thank actionjackson, David Watts and mitchkenn, (among others), who really have taught me on this forum how to play random debut/historical leagues well and to get the most out of them.

I have finally, after a million starts and stops (like many of you, I am a serial league starter), started a historical random debut league with the parameters I want and have already completed the first four seasons.

I started the league in 1901, but with 1986 as the historical year, and I will keep that historical year throughout the league's history.

As I shut off automatic expansion, the 16 teams remain the same, the 1901 teams, including my own Cleveland Blues, the Chicago Orphans, Boston Beaneaters, and Milwaukee Brewers, to name a few.

I set players to come from 1901 to 2016. I shut off the color barrier. Three-year recalc, with current year double the weight. Five-man rotations with five relievers, and 15 position players. No DH. For the moment 8 rounds of the new player draft (and thanks again to actionjackson for the advice to set the initial draft to 44 rounds - made a big difference !).

We have played the 1901-04 seasons. The first two seasons saw the World Series go to the Pittsburgh Pirates, who defeated the Philadelphia Athletics and Detroit Tigers respectively in 1901 and 1902. The Milwaukee Brewers have won the 1903 and 1904 World Series, defeating the Philadelphia Phillies in each of those Series.

The Blues had losing records and were in 6th place our first two seasons, but came in second in 1903 and third in 1904, with 88-66 and then 80-74 season records.
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1901

Turkey Mike Donlin of the White Sox led the AL with a .370 average, and Derek Bell hit 38 home runs and drove in 134 runs for the Athletics to lead the league.Tim Raines, then of the Cleveland Blues, stole 93 bases.

Pedro Martinez of the White Sox won 20 games to lead the league, and struck out 288 batters, with Baltimore's Roger Clemens striking out 243. Jake Peavy of Detroit had the best ERA at 2.35.

In the NL, the Chicago Orphans' Cesar Tovar's .354 led the league, Vic Wertz hit 40 homers for the champion Pirates, who also had Hap Myers, who set a record with 101 stolen bases. Jeff Samardzija won 21 games, Jonathan Niese had a 2.39 ERA, and Charlie Root struck out 250.

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Mike Donlin hit .411 for the White Sox, still a record as of 1904, and 70 points higher than Ian Kinsler's .341 in second place for the Tigers, though Kinsler's 40 homers led the AL. Carl Yastrzemski drove in 115 runs, most in the AL, and Tim Raines, traded by the Blues for Gary Maddox and two pitchers, stole 86 bases.

Jake Peavy won 25 games and had a 1.90 ERA for the pennant-winning Tigers, both league leading stats. Pedro Martinez of the White Sox struck out an astounding 337 batters, 12.2 per 9 IP.

The Reds' Ryan Braun hit .345 to lead the NL.The Giants' Andy Pafko hit 52 home runs, a new record, and the Cards' Wes Covington had 118 RBI. Hap Myers stole 81 bases.
Johnny Wertz won 23 games for the world champion Pirates, while the Phillies' Clayton Kershaw had a 2.09 ERA, while he struck out 275 to lead the NL:
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The world champion Brewers' Vladimir Guerrero hit .354, one point higher than Mike Donlin, denying Donlin a third batting title in a row. The Boston Americans' Carl Yastrzemski and the Cleveland Blues' Bobby Murcer each hit 45 home runs to tie for the HR lead. Frank Thomas (the early 1960s one that played for the Mets, not the Big Hurt), drove in 129 runs for the Americans. Washington's Tim Raines stole 83 bases.
Pedro Martinez of the White Sox won the pitching triple crown, with 24 wins (tied with Jake Peavy of Detroit), a 1.71 ERA (a new AL record low), and by breaking his previous record with 376 strikeouts.

In the NL, Danny Santana (!) of the Pirates won the batting title with .363. Rick Monday of the Brooklyn Superbas hit 40 homes and drove in 117 runs. Hap Myes stole 86 bases.
Pat Malone of the Orphans struck out 352, denying Clayton Kershaw's 326 from contributing to a parallel triple crown to Pedro's in the AL. Kershaw Kershaw had 27 wins and an ML record 1.69 ERA (two points better than Pedro's).
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Vladimir Guerrero of the repeating world champion Brewers hit .360, but his 41 homers were second to Detroit's Howard Johnson who hit 44.Baltimore's Corey Seager had 141 RBI to lead the AL.Tim Raines again led the AL with 102 steals.
Joe Shaute won 22 for the Brewers, Pedro again won the ERA title with 2.68 for Chicago, and struck out 371 batters.
Two new players showed up in the NL: Rookie Ted Williams led the league in OBP at .440 and hit .333 with 31 HR. Ty Cobb of the Chicago Orphans led the league in his second major league season, batting .347. The National League champion Phillies repeated, in part due to the performance of Jim Ray Hart, who led the league with 46 HR and 119 RBI. Hap Myers stole 68 bases, enough to lead the league for the fourth straight season.
The Giants' Tex Hughson, traded by the Blues for catcher Yogi Berra, won 24 games, Clayton Kershaw had a 2.34 ERA for the Phillies, and the Reds' Bob Turley struck out 327. With Turley and Ted Williams, will the Reds be the team to watch in 1905, or will Ty Cobb lead the Chicagos past the Phillies to a pennant?
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As expected, the 1905 season saw an NL race between Ty Cobb and Hank Greenberg's Chicago Orphans, and Ted Williams' Cincinnati Reds. The Orphans came in at 92-62, two games ahead of the Reds. Interestingly, both Cobb at .367 (24 HR), and Williams at .342 (23 HR) hit right around their lifetime RL averages.

But the big story in the American League was...the Cleveland Blues ! Unexpectedly, despite some veterans like Charlie Hayes, Chris Chambliss and Gary Maddox declining to the bench or retirement, the Blues came roaring out of the gate, never let up to finish at 92-62, 12 games ahead of the Athletics.

How did we do it? Pitching mostly. While Jim Kaat, our longtime ace declined to 11-18 with a 4.01 ERA, our perennial number 2 starter Dock Ellis took over and won 20 games. Luis Tiant, in his second season, won 16, and Frank Papish surprised everyone as our 4th starter with a 2.05 ERA and a 15-2 record. Calvin Maduro, Johnny Ruffin and Tug McGraw excelled in the bullpen.
The pitching keeping us afloat, the hitting came through as needed, despite lacking any real superstar seasons. Bobby Murcer after four straight near-MVP seasons hit .280 with 17 homers in right field. Rookie Johnny Frederick hit .247 with 17 homers taking over in Center for aging Gary Maddox. Kirby Puckett continued to excel at .294 with 24 home runs. Rookie Todd Frazier taking over third as Charlie Hayes retired hit .273 with 31 home runs.Ripper Collins, another rookie filled in for retired Chambliss and hit .306 with 18 home runs, and Yogi Berra, obtained in a trade, hit .291 with 16 home runs.

In the World Series we faced the Orphans, and quickly jumped out 2-0 behind strong pitching. We were up 3-1 after four games, thanks to timely home runs in games 1 and 4 by....wait for it....our shortstop Freddy Patek, who hit 2 all season ! (shades of Al Weis in 1969...). The Orphans came roaring back, with Cobb hitting .486 with 4 homers in the Series by the end.

We were tied 3 games apiece. And Papish hurt his arm in the third inning of game 6, so our bullpen was exhausted.

Game 7, Dock Ellis didn't have it - he game up three in the first inning as Cobb and Greenberg hit back-to-back homers. But a three-run homer by Todd Frazier gave us the lead, only for us to lose it to Greenberg's second homer in the 7th inning. Patek tripled to lead off the 8th inning, and McGraw was allowed to hit with no one out. He promptly singled in the go ahead run. We took a two-runlead in the top of the 9th as Puckett singled and Frazier doubled him in. McGraw gave up a hit to the leadoff hitter in the bottom of the ninth with the Blues holding an 8-6 lead. Ty Cobb came to the plate,with one out, but McGraw struck him out. Two down. Greenberg worked a walk however and Jim Kaat, the only man left not burnt out in the bullpen, came on to try to get the last out. Ron Coomer singled to load the bases, Dib Williams walked to make it a one-run game. Harry Arndt came up with two outs and the bases loaded, a one-run lead for the Blues, seeming ever more tenuous. Kaat pitched, Arndt hit it well to left, and Kirby Puckett pulled it in to make the Blues the World Champions !

In the AL, Mike Donlin won yet another batting title, hitting .351. Corey Seager had another great year, hitting .343. Ty Cobb's .367 led the NL with Ted Williams in second at .342. Frank Robinson hit 48 home runs for the Athletics, most in the majors, while the Brookyln Superbas' Del Ennis hit 41 to lead the NL: Each HR champ led their league in RBI as well: 133 for Robby, 123 for Ennis. Braggo Roth (who?) led the NL with 73 steals, and Tim Raines stole 81 to lead the AL. Tex Hughson's 2.13 ERA for the Giants edged out Kershaw's 2.11 for the Phillies. Papish's amazing 2.05 ERA for the Blues was better than Pedro's 2.29 for the White Sox. But Pedro won 24 games, most in the majors, while Pat Malone of the Orphans and Whitney Glazner of the Reds tied with 23 wins in the NL. Baltimore's Mario Soto struck out 343 batters, Pedro coming in at 294.Malone struck out 323 to lead the NL.

Can the Blues repeat?
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1906

The Blues did repeat, which I found shocking, if enjoyable. the team stumbled out of the gate and at one point had all three OF starters - Gary Maddox, Kirby Puckett and Bobby Murcer, out with 2 week plus injuries.

But newcomer Tino Martinez, obtained in a controversial trade (for the fans) in which Jim Kaat (his last hurrah as a Blues being getting the last out of the World Series the year before) and Rip Collins plus a couple of bench players were traded to Milwaukee, came through big all season long. And bench player Jorge Soler played so well, as did rookie CF Casey Stengel, that when the regular came back, Maddox found himself platooned in Center with Stengel, and Puckett and Murcer platooned together in RF, with Soler as the lone regular. Thus the declining productivity of longtime Blues starters was compensated for by platooning, as happened as well at catcher as Yogi Berra platooned with Mike Stanley to maximize production. John Lowenstein anchored several positions as an all-purpose backup.

The bullpen struggled, except for the magnificent Ramiro Mendoza, who pitched 42 games, 45 innings for a 7-4 record, 7 saves and a 1.54 ERA. The starting pitching was the key, as Papish, Dock Ellis, and Luis Tiant pitched well, but Al Downing was almost unbeatable. The team ended up somehow at 98-56, 13 games ahead of Philadelphia.

The NL saw another good pennant race, this time between the Reds, Giants and Cardinals. The Cardinals pulled it out ending up 2 ahead of NY and 4 ahead of Cincinnati. At 87-67 St. Louis depended on the pitching of Jake Arrieta and Bert Blyleven, and the hitting of David Justice, George Grantham, Tony Fernandez and Wes Covington.

But Cleveland's pitching was too much for the Cards, and the Series went to the Blues 4-1.

Ted Williams led the NL with a .397 average, just shy of .400 and well ahead of Ty Cobb's .363 for Chicago. Cobb's 35 homers and 135 RBI were both the best in the NL however.Former Blues pitcher Tex Hughson won 24 games and his 2.54 ERA was one point better than the Phillies' Clayton Kershaw's. Cobb stole 76 bases and Bump Hadley struck out 287 batters to lead the NL.

Mike Donlin won another batting title, hitting .360, and Sherry Magee who has been turning in near-MVP seasons for the Red Sox since the league began, hit .333. Tino Martinez hit 44 homers to lead the AL and Frank Robinson of the Athletics drove in 122 runs. Sherry Magee stole 83 bases, to finally deny Tim Raines a stolen base crown, Raines stealing 77 on the year. Al Downing won 21 games for the Blues, with a 2.16 ERA, both best in the league, while Washington's Sid Fernandez struck out 313.

Pittsburgh in 1901-2 and the Milwaukee Brewers in 1903-4 both won back to back World Championships, while the Phillies won the NL pennant in both of the Brewers' championship seasons. But now the Blues have repeated the feat. So far, no team has ever won three pennants nor World Series in a row. Can Cleveland do it?
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Back on track again. Had to fast forward 5 seasons without a draft for technical problems. We did repeat but then into a long era of mediocrity which we hope is about to end. Will post the stats in the nextfew days.
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Okay, we are just starting the 1913 season now. I won't recap every individual season that I missed, especially with the whole draft mishap, but I will provide some career stats for the league, which are now relevant:
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Most career home runs as of the start of the 1913 season:

Jim Edmons 373
Vic Wertz 367
Howard Johnson 350
Vladimir Guerrero 336
Evan Longoria 328
Sherry Magee 319
Bobby Murcer 316
Rick Monday 309
Frank Robinson 306
Hank Greenberg 302
Ted Williams 296
Larry Doby 292
Carl Yastrzemski 288
Tino Martinez 282
Vada Pinson 281
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Career batting average, Minimum 4,000 PA:

Ty Cobb .357
Ted Williams .341
Corey Seager .339
Mike Donlin .330
Joe Torre .327
Sherry Magee .321
Joey Votto .317
Frank Robinson .315
Hanley Ramirez .315
Vladimir Guerrero .313
Vada Pinson .310
Dave Parker .310
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Players with over 1,000 career RBI:

Sherry Magee 1174
Jim Edmonds 1134
Vic Wertz 1112
Hank Greenberg 1098
Vlad Guerrero 1057
Vada Pinson 1054
Howard Johnson 1020
Bobby Murcer 1015

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Career Hits:
Vada Pinson 2090
Sherry Magee 2072
Paul Molitor 2030
Ty Cobb 2002
Tim Raines 1968
Danny Santana 1876
Vladimir Guerrero 1867
Jim Edmonds 1849
Bobby Murcer 1808
Luis Aparicio 1787
Vic Wertz 1782
Corey Seager 1726

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Career Stolen Bases:

Tim Raines 845
Ty Cobb 779
Sherry Magee 515
Hap Myers 475
Luis Aparicio 450
Braggo Roth 441
Paul Molitor 395
Ozzie Smith 388
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Career Wins - Pitcher - W-L records:

Clayton Kershaw 250-102
Pedro Martinez 195-128
Mark Buehrle 181-155
Jake Peavy 176-147
Pat Malone 165-99
Pete Donahue 158-133
Tex Hughson 153-92
Bert Blyleven 152-102
Jim Kaat 142-109
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Career ERA (minimum 1000 IP):

Clayton Kershaw 2.26
Bert Blyleven 2.96
Curt Simmons 3.01
Pedro Martinez 3.05
Drew Pomeranz 3.16
Tex Hughson 3.16
Pat Malone 3.17
Sid Fernandez 3.25
Bob Rush 3.33
George Cuppy 3.45
Doug Davis 3.46
Mike Hampton 3.47
Dolf Luque 3.49
Dock Ellis 3.51
Frank Lary 3.53
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Career Strikeouts Pitcher:

Clayton Kershaw 3169
Pedro Martinez 3128
Pat Malone 2223
Bert Blyleven 2139
Jake Peavy 2078
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Single Season batting records:

Avg: Mike Donlin .411 1902
OBP: Ted Williams .534 1906
SLG: Joe Torre .728 1909
Hits: Ty Cobb 228 1912
Home Runs: Andy Pafko 52 1902
Doubles: George Kell 58 1911
Triples: Jose Vizcaino 16 1911
Stolen Bases: Ty Cobb 115 1912
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Single Season Pitching Records:

ERA: Jose DeLeon 1.62 1911
Wins: Clayton Kershaw 27 1903
Saves: Kelvim Escobar 32 1901
Games: Dennis Martinez 76 1910
Complete Games: Clayton Kershaw 27 1904
Strikeouts: Pedro Martinez 376 1903
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The 1914 regular season is over. The Cleveland Blues have returned to the World Series after an 8-year hiatus, finishing 89-65, two games ahead of Ty Cobb's Tigers (traded by the Chicago Orphans for Hanley Ramirez and two minor players), and 5 ahead of the Athletics. The Philadelphia Phillies, winners of 96 games, ran away with the NL pennant behind Clayton Kershaw, the greatest pitcher in major league history up to 1914, finishing 15 games ahead of the Reds and Ted Williams. Williams hit 44 homers and batted .330 to lead the NL. Cobb won his first AL batting title, hitting .360, and stole 92 bases.

The Blues were led by Carl Hubbell who won 21 and led the AL in ERA at 2.47. Kershaw won 23 and his ERA was 2.32. Glenn Davis led the AL with 36 homers, one more than Blues' first baseman Johnny Mize, a rookie obtained in the draft. Mize combined with outfielder Mickey Mantle, in his third year and finally productive, hitting 34 homers.

Now comes the World Series.The Philllies return to the Series for the first time since 1904, the Blues for the first time since 1906.
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