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Old 06-10-2017, 01:29 PM   #61
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Gibby Givens (givens000gib) and Oscar "Gibby" Givens (givens049osc) appear to be the same person. Gibby's birth/death dates and places on Baseball Reference are exactly the same as Oscar's info on Seamheads.
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Old 06-10-2017, 01:43 PM   #62
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I have heavy suspicions that Charles 'Chino' Smith (smith-048cha) is the same as Chino 'Postalita' Smith (Smith049Chi).

'Chino' real life stats = debuted for BRG in 1925 as a 43-year-old
'Postalita' real life stats = debuted for BRG in 1925 as a 42-year-old

Both extraordinarily handy players in my league - the all-time #1 and #6 hit getters but almost certainly the same guy.
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Old 06-11-2017, 11:41 AM   #64
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Old 06-13-2017, 11:09 AM   #65
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I've been trying to import individual players, with about 80-85% success. I know that Spot Poles is an issue. Is anyone able to import Pop Lloyd, Martin Dihigo, Bill Foster? There are a few others but those are the big ones off the top of my head.
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It appears that sometime during the last few updates negro players that debuted before 1920 have been blocked from importing into the game. I do not know if this change was inadvertent or advertent.
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Old 06-16-2017, 10:03 PM   #67
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There's a Joe "Smokey Joe" Williams (historical minors ID: willia008joe) and a Smokey Joe Williams (ID: willia001smo) who tended to play on the same teams in the 20's and 30's (e.g. 1932 Homestead Grays), but whose birthdates were 16 years apart. Looking at the baseball reference and Seamheads databases, there was only 1 SJ Williams playing for these teams. It looks like it's the same person, even if it's not immediately obvious.
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Old 06-16-2017, 10:40 PM   #68
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There's a Joe "Smokey Joe" Williams (historical minors ID: willia008joe) and a Smokey Joe Williams (ID: willia001smo) who tended to play on the same teams in the 20's and 30's (e.g. 1932 Homestead Grays), but whose birthdates were 16 years apart. Looking at the baseball reference and Seamheads databases, there was only 1 SJ Williams playing for these teams. It looks like it's the same person, even if it's not immediately obvious.
One of them would have been 6 years old when he debuted so there must be two of them who overlapped a bit.
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Old 06-21-2017, 04:41 PM   #69
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In a 1941, there are these players on the same team and position, but slightly differing birth years (1-5 years apart).

Richard "Subby" Byas (byas--000ric)
Subby Byas (byas049sub)

Reese "Goose" Tatum (tatum-000ree)
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Carlos "Charlie" Colas (colas01car)
Charlie Colas (colas-000car)

Leo "Preacher" Henry (henry-000leo)
Preacher Henry (henry01pre)
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Old 06-23-2017, 12:57 PM   #71
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There's a Joe "Smokey Joe" Williams (historical minors ID: willia008joe) and a Smokey Joe Williams (ID: willia001smo) who tended to play on the same teams in the 20's and 30's (e.g. 1932 Homestead Grays), but whose birthdates were 16 years apart. Looking at the baseball reference and Seamheads databases, there was only 1 SJ Williams playing for these teams. It looks like it's the same person, even if it's not immediately obvious.
Yeah, there was only one Smokey Joe (or Cyclone Joe) Williams. He pitched from 1907-1932. There was also an infielder named Joe Williams (NOT Smokey Joe) who played very briefly for the Chicago American Giants in 1939. His minors ID is willia008joe:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/re...d=willia008joe

I'm guessing their careers got accidentally mixed up at some point.
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Thanks for the clarification. With historical leagues in this era, I just tend to play the major leagues as integrated and treat the Negro Leagues as another feeder minor league, but every once in a while my OOTP OCDness kicks in and I look for these things.
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Same player on same team 2x.

On the Negro League team 1935 Crawford's, Spoon Carter appears 2x. Once as Spoon Carter, 2nd time as Ernest Carter. Same person.
http://www.seamheads.com/NegroLgs/te...mID=PC&tab=bat
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On the Negro League team 1935 Crawford's, Spoon Carter appears 2x. Once as Spoon Carter, 2nd time as Ernest Carter. Same person.
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Cuban OF Alfredo Arca˝o (Arcano049Alf) has a birth year of 1880, but his career started in 1888. I don't think his actual birth date is known, but in the game he should probably be born in 1867 or 1868.

Also, based on the few pictures I've seen his ethnicity probably ought to be listed as "Hispanic" rather than "African."
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changed to Hispanic

we now have him debuting in 1888 played through 1908

but we have no stats pre-1902 for him as ootp does not want pre-1901 stats included.

this will probably barf his ratings
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Looks like the latest update cleared up the import problems. The master list on page 3 of this thread had 3512 player IDs. 3495 of them worked!

An idea I'm playing around with is starting with all negro league players and making MLB players random import.
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Looks like the latest update cleared up the import problems. The master list on page 3 of this thread had 3512 player IDs. 3495 of them worked!

An idea I'm playing around with is starting with all negro league players and making MLB players random import.
New list. Updates/Changes happen almost daily.
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